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ZDNet has put up an article that says Microsoft is going to prove
that the PC is a very safe platform for copyrighted content. All it's going to
take is for everyone and their brother to purchase their latest and greatest effort "Vista" when it hits the shelves in a couple years. The story goes into a little detail of how the new operating system could differ from XP. I say "could" because the OS is in beta stages now and anything can change. They may want to soothe content providers, that's for sure, but we all know who butters Redmonds bread- the consumer. So if you make too strict a platform you will lose to other OS'es. This is a double whammy for MS as the other cash cow they have is MS Office and they darn sure don't want people getting used to Linux and Open Office.
How does this work? One of the biggest changes in Vista is a technology called "Protected Video Path." This will essentially keep video streams encrypted and inaccessible as video is being sent from a DVD (or other copy-protected source) to the monitor, TV or other display. The operating system will also check what the computer is connected to (a monitor, a TV, and so on), do another check to make sure the device really is what it says it is, and then see what kind of plug, or output mechanism, is being used to connect the computer to the device.
Vista will go much further than previous operating systems in checking devices that are several steps downstream, if several digital components are connected to each other. If it finds that there is a device that doesn't respect DRM rules, or if it finds a plug that doesn't support transmission of those copy-protection rules, it might not let the video be sent through that output at all.
Boy, that sounds lovely! I can't wait to pull out my wallet for such an awesome protection for the entertainment industry! Goodness knows they can't fend for themselves with only billions in profits each quarter to pay for their flamboyant lifestyles. It's up to us to fund such endeavors against piracy by purchasing a new operating system. I can see folks calling tech support due to a piece of hardware that discontinues to work, only to find out it's not the hardware, but rather a "feature" of their spanking new OS!
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sweet, now do they really think medium to advanced computer users are going to buy this, i mean if you break it down into pieces even the novice user will be appalled. good way to shoot oneself in the foot might i add.
Considering i still have customers coming in with PC's that have windows 3.1 on it, are they going to force every single computer owner in the world to upgrade? If that is the case, then people will not adopt this new tech, this new protectionism for the media mafia. If piracy was such a big problem why are they not losing money? They are only bitching cause they are not making as much money as they want to. Heck I don't paid enough at my job, but that does not mean I sue my employer how pays me.
..and this comes from the same OS company that said their Online LiveUpdate protection system was patched up yet was cracked over and over again each time them dumbnut devs tried to correct it. Sad.
Note to companies: DON'T MESS WITH THE WORLD OF COMBINED CODERS - you'll loose each time. We're a million+ in numbers, have a passion for the tech (you more or less just take home a paycheck), and work as one mind. You can't out-smart global creativity and ingenuity. Even some goth cyber-punk in a basement is probably smarter than your best especially when they start networking their schemes together.
lol... that is not the only protections that Vista will have as far as I know but it is interesting...
DO they really believe that people will buy a new OS and a new monitor to continue watching their DVDs... what they were able to do before without any problem...
I can't say I am too worried about it. In fact, I am not. When I "buy" my copy of Vista, I will remove the protection from the source of Vista so it won't even install. For instance, my WinXP install doesn't even install Security Center (or whatever it is called) or the firewall and lots of other useless shit. I use a program call nLite: http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showforum=89
the way M$ is going to "force" users to install Vista is by cooperation of hardware manufacturers, mainly Intel. They plan to use hardware installed protection on MB and CPUs , that will connect to the so called "Palladium" protection. They were planing to prevent any OS that doesn't support palladium from even installing on the hardware.
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html
https://www.trustedcomputinggroup.org/home
Well luckily AMD (and hopefully the motherboard companies that manufacture for AMD) don't cooperate with this trusted computing nonsense. The only thing you'll get is a system that is more expensive and less functional. Intel is just stabbing it's own customers in the back.
I fail to see why anyone actually NEED Vista ?
I meanb the reason for moving from Win98 to Win2K was obiouse - it was unstable , reason for moving from Win2K to WinXP was less obiouse but it had a lot of conviniences ...
Who need Vista ? What new things it can offer ?
A bit different GUI ? a DRM ?
- I don't care about firts and curtenly do not need last ...
Sounds to me like a cheap hardware fix will get around this with few problems.
All it takes is a bit of hardware you plug into your PC which you then plug whatever you want into.
The hardware will just reply "yes I love copy protection and fully support it and I have nothing that can be used to copy anything" every time 'Vista' queries it and then just casually passes along the data to whatever feels like asking for it.
Mind you, I really am glad I'm starting to learn how to use Linux and its becoming a LOT more GUI based for just average day to day use for home users.
MS is really doing a lot to piss off its own customer base, they must really think that people dont have any other choice at all so they can do what they feel like.
AMD is a founding memnber of Trusted Computing Group
https://www.trustedcomputinggroup.org/about/members/
True, but as of yet I have not heard much from AMD regarding this topic. The trusted computing group is destined to fail, because of the 2 giants AMD and Intel. Intel does everything (with unfair competition) to cross AMD's path when it comes to processors. In return, AMD keeps sueing Intel. not a very solid base....
What a shame.
Adding "features" that none of the end-users or consumers want... 
Well luckily AMD (and hopefully the motherboard companies that manufacture for AMD) don't cooperate with this trusted computing nonsense. The only thing you'll get is a system that is more expensive and less functional. Intel is just stabbing it's own customers in the back.
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