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Blu-ray summit report at IGN - the latest from the HD battle

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Blu-ray summit report at IGN - the latest from the HD battle
Posted by Dan Bell
Posted on 20/06/04 02:08
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Blu-ray summit report at IGN - the latest from the HD battle

We have been following many reports lately trying to see what's next in the evolution of the DVD. This article from IGN, has a lot of good information it. Especially for those of us that are trying to understand the battle going on between HD-DVD and the Blu-ray camp. Last Thursday, The Blu-ray consortium met over in Los Angeles and laid down their action plan.

The consortium expects Blu-ray to piggyback onto DVD and be a gradual replacement, but there won't be the wholesale market shift like we saw with the move from VHS, where people couldn't get away from it fast enough.

One of the themes hammered home more than once at the meeting was that HD-DVD simply doesn't offer the capacity needed. A single-layer HD-DVD disc will hold 15GB of content and a dual layer disc holds 30GB. Blu-ray discs, by contrast hold 25/50GB in single and dual layer configurations. Current DVD capacity is 4.7GB/9.4GB for single/dual layer discs.


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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"We don't want to compromise on the requirements for players," said Michael Fidler, senior vice president of the Blu-ray Disc Group at Sony. "We don't want a solution that's just good for a few years out, we want to look five to ten years down the road."

The increased capacity has its obvious benefits. Not only could films be presented in high definition 1920x1024 resolution, instead of the 720x480 for standard definition video (currently used in DVD), but so could the extras. Most DVD bonus materials are done in full frame, non-anamorphic video with two-channel audio to save space on the disc.

A single-layer Blu-ray disc would allow for up to 135 minutes of high definition video, three languages and two hours of regular bonus material. A dual-layered disc, though, could hold three hours of HD video, a DTS mix and two hours of HD bonus materials.

There's a lot more information to be found over at IGN, in the article written by Andy Patrizio.  What is especially interesting is, they tell a little about the copy protection measures being looked at. One scheme involves a replaceable key. If one key is compromised, as was the case with DVD, that key will be discarded and a new one generated. DeCSS kind of gave the industry a wake up call as to what can happen, when you put all your eggs in one basket. Of course, as we reported earlier, Steve (Pixar) Jobs is sweating bullets and wants to hold up this new HD tech until a 'pirate proof' system is developed. Well, we sure as heck don't want that, as it is doubtful that such a system is possible - just ask SunnComm. Hopefully, it will generate some more discussion here and of course the best place for that is our Satellite, HD-TV, Blu-ray and HD-DVD Forum.

Source: IGN





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Please just go with Blu-Ray. All that extra space wins me over if nothing else.
What Mick Fidler said was true. All the movie discs could be jammed packed full of the best quality video, sound and extras.
I am sure everyone wants Blu-Ray except for the peope that have been spending TONS of money on HD-DVD and want something back for it. The people that just spend a couple Mil on HD-DVD and a few years of their lives I am sure want to show something for it and will continue to push the market into going with their product. Blu-Ray does sound like the better deal, and really ALL that Blu-Ray has so say is that they will paten the ability to burn to in Blu-Ray FOrmat and not allow any home models to be made, that would win the movie industry over in a second, even if blu-ray cost 5X as much, as long as people are not Pirating movies the industry is happy. If this was to happen, HD-DVD could be a home and office format, would not make as much money but I am sure if they goto MicroSoft and try to sell them the product that Microsoft will buy it and make it supported in all Windows aplications and the HD-DVD will become a new cheap backup method and a good way to sell Games and other Software.
Blu Ray route = more expensive, but more technically advanced tech. Sony and Philips (major proponents) arguably want a bigger slice of the royalty pie here, it seems.

HD-DVD group = more "here and now" easy-to-migrate DVD tech for content producers, to get the ball rolling more immediate-term. NEC and Toshiba major proponents. No recorders planned yet. Hmmmmmm. Non-interest factor very high given this information, personally.

All in all, it looks like DVD (in its various incarnations) will be with us for a looong time to come. No doubt the huge growth in the hardwre (and software) market is due to catalysts like DeCSS.

Blu Ray, in particular, seems like it will be lockdown central. I hope they don't expect to sell much hardware (or software) with their content protection ideas. Because they won't. Especially with DVD out...

Still, I see potential for a great PC back-up/archival format somewhere here, though...I hope. As well potential for a smaller video camera disc format. Again, I hope. That's something we need. Not a yet-more-crappy-interim-movie format.
DVD is here. How many will be willing to buy into a high definition format, one wonders. I just don't see it becoming popular in the forseeable. Plus, with storage capacities moving like they are, I see Blu Ray's 50GB per disc as a very short-term strategy to get the format out quick to standardise on their tech. This is understandable since everyone wants to claim ownership of new markets. But these capacities will be laughable in a short period. HD-DVD appears particularly anaemic in this department...

As a sidenote:
TDK's hard coat thingy that can't be written on with a permanent marker sounds fascinating. I wonder how hard this hardcoat is, tho.
Yeah we'll all be down mixing the discs to DVD standard to back 'em up...

But perhaps most important of all is that both Blu-ray and HD-DVD are a waste of time without an HD-TV and it'll be a loooong time before these babies are common place and screens are a sensible price...
"TDK's hard coat thingy that can't be written on with a permanent marker sounds fascinating. I wonder how hard this hardcoat is, tho."

Just give it to some five year old, you'll find out real quick! :)
Don't take what the Blu-ray companies say at face value.

BOTH Blu-ray and HD-DVD (AOD) are here and now. They are both waiting for people to consume.

They are exaggerating Blu-ray advantages while ignoring their disadvantages though that is a profitable thing for them to do.
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