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Posted by
jab1981 on Tuesday 19 August 2003 15:00
interesting... I've not yet had any sort of problem and I've discs over 5 years old. They make it sound like that's impossible.
Posted by
lagger on Tuesday 19 August 2003 15:07
On the other hand I have discs with music on them that have deteriorated in under a year They are kept in a cd wallet in my auto so the heat and cold are factors no doubt. I am sure it is the disks and not the player as the dropouts and skips that have developed in some are in the same place at every playing ... and new ones show up regularly now on the older ones. Guess I'll have to make backups of my backups

Posted by
chsbiking on Tuesday 19 August 2003 16:04
I keep two backups of every backup disc I have. As soon as I notice one go back I have the second one to replace the one that went bad. It's highly unlikely that both would go bad at the same time. But I've never had one go bad yet. I have had CD Rewritables go back on me though. They seem to last even shorter.
Posted by
Ian@CDRLabs.com on Tuesday 19 August 2003 19:00
I don't speak Dutch. Do they mention how they stored these discs and under what conditions?
Posted by
DoMiN8ToR on Tuesday 19 August 2003 19:09
Yes, they say they have stored them in a closed cabinet for two years in their original packaging.
Posted by
compu44 on Tuesday 19 August 2003 19:26
i've got princos that are over two years old easily, kept in somewhat humid conditions too. still in perfect condition

Posted by
eranros on Wednesday 20 August 2003 07:36
Just checked 2 CDs from 1998 - no errors.I used CDCheck. Anyone know which software they used? I use the cheapest media that will burn at my writers top speed, usually generic brands such as Silverline, GPT etc.
Posted by
dakhaas on Wednesday 20 August 2003 10:34
Software they went the hardware way.
They used a high speed cd analyzer CDA-3000 from cd associates. (these things are used for fast checking disc quality in some production factories.)
Posted by
mrdisk on Wednesday 20 August 2003 11:20
I have an impression that 'older (sat 2x, 4x maybe 8x) CDs, were more stable; while newer (higher speed) CDs are less reliable over longer time periods. This is mostly simply my expereince...not based on any formal studay...
Posted by
war4peace on Wednesday 20 August 2003 16:22
They are partly correct. I've noticed the awfully low quality of AUDIO CDs: although I am not listening to my originals as i've ripped 'em to MP3s, they kept degrading even stored in perfect conditions...
...And speaking of data CDs, well, all Cds inscribed as Delphi or DVision went unreadable (totally or partially) within one year; that's why I stopped buying that crap.
Posted by
NHJ BV on Wednesday 20 August 2003 18:05
BTW, today I saw an article/ad/statement from Kruidvat (brand of the disc seen in the image) that some discs produced in 2001 were faulty and that you could send them somewhere to have the data recovered for free (if possible). The newspaper was the Volkskrant, but it probably appeared in other Dutch newspapers as well. It's on the third page of todays (20-8) Volkskrant.
Posted by
chotzeny on Saturday 23 August 2003 21:41
Hay
I have A 2 CDs
Samsung CDR-74S 650mb/74min
they were burnt with 2 speed max
since 1999
with some old stuff
and to work great...
actuley it was fun to find these old stuff

Posted by
stimmy7 on Monday 25 August 2003 18:15
What I find interesting is the majority of the comments are related to music CDs, many of which are comprised of data of rather limited value, available relatively easily to replace.
I think the greater concern is for business, scientific, research or other data and information being placed on CD-R discs and the fact that manufacturers routinely provide a "warranty statement" that the media will last for 10 years or longer.
Users need to read one line farther in this statement to understand that the manufacturer's warranty is limited to the cost of replacement of the media alone, and even that is limited by your ability to prove that the media was stored "under optimal conditions".
My understanding of the intent of this article was that it highlights that it's critical to have a migration strategy for the most critical of data being stored on digital media, and that the media is properly stored and periodically reviewed for any signs of degradation, especially if the data stored is subject to long term retention requirements.
Larry


Posted by
bertfw (guest) on Wednesday 18 July 2007 18:52
My oldest backup CD-Rs are from late 1998, both still work perfectly fine. Those happen to be Sony. I also have a "generic" CD-R from around 1999, that one has problems and is mostly unreadable now. I guess you get what you pay for when it comes to storage.
Posted by
Clifford (guest) on Wednesday 12 September 2007 03:57
same problem here my room is 29c to 35c sometimes 38c in temperature and is humid and I have several CDr that have tiny holes growing from it. some less than 1 year some of the CDs are BENQ, IMATION, ARITA, & a few under CDr-King but some of the good brads like TDK, CD-LINK,VERBATIM lasted much longer infact CD-Link lasted from (97- present ) still readable

but the programs is not compatible with vista

Posted by
Jean (guest) on Wednesday 03 October 2007 21:16
I have purchased CDs that have "evaporated" while stored in the case. I'm transferring (as fast as I can) to hard drive most of my collections. This medium will last longer than the temporary CD/DVD medium (I hope).
Posted by
JJ (guest) on Tuesday 26 February 2008 20:38
I still play vinly lp's that are almost 40 years old and still sound excellent....I guess new isn't always better
Posted by
todor (guest) on Sunday 16 March 2008 12:39
National Arhive of Serbia have problem with CD who old 6 and more years. They tell that discs who older of 6 year can't read...