CloneCD author counters 'Fireburner'
Posted on 25/02/00 13:54 by Maikel T                             
CloneCD author counters 'Fireburner'
In a reaction to the yesterday released 'article' by the author of Fireburner Oliver Kastl (author of CloneCD mailed us his view on this:

Hi,

I've seen, that you opened a discussion about "CloneCD a Hoax".
Just my comments:

1.) Of course - CloneCD can't make a "perfect" copy of data it cannot read.
That should be obvious. I think it wasn't necessary to prove this :-)
2.) In case CloneCD detects a bad sector, it will display an error in the
logfile. Well, displaying an error should give the user a hint, that the
copy can't be "perfect".
3.) If the data can't be read, dummy data is created that can't be read
either. If the Original can't be read, and the Copy can't be read - isn't
that as a close as "perfect copy" can be?
4.) The author talks a lot about read errors. Come on, do SecuROM CDs have
read errors? AFAIK CloneCD is the only CD-Duplicating program in the world,
that can make a working safety backup of e.g., Revolt (SecuROM) *without*
bypassing the copy protection. What has this to do with read errors?
5.) Why can CloneCD overburn with Sony and HP Burners, but other programs
can't? Does this have anything to do with read erros?
6.) The author talks about bypassing copy protections. I want to make it
perfectly clear, that CloneCD does not and never has bypassed any copy
protection. It does not decrypt, descramble or modify the data it reads in
any way. Important: The data it "reads". Read errors are - Errors. The data
can't be read.
7.) In conclusion, calling CloneCD a hoax and calling me a liar is very bad
attitude (and wrong, too), and leaves a foul taste in the mouth, especially
from an author of a competing product.
8.) I asked the author of the article for a public apology, but he didn't
reply.

Regards,

Oliver Kastl
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By Unknown, Sun 27 Feb 2000 05:59
CloneCD is an awesome product. Who cares if it doesn't make a perfect copy. As long as it works quit whinning.
By Unknown, Sun 27 Feb 2000 11:35
I completely agree with Oliver. I'm not a programmer or something like that, so I understand this kind of problems only 'on the surface', but according to me it was clear that CloneCD couldn't burn a perfect copy of a cd, but only a 'working backup copy, without the use of any modification'. I'm surprised that the author of Fireburner lost time to prove what he showed us, i think anyone with some brain could know that, even if I couldn't prove it (I don't have the means and the knowledge).
Anyway, Fireburner is a very good burning program too, I often use it. CloneCD and Fireburner are 2 completely different applications, with different objectives. I don't think we should stay here too long whinning.

Bye
By Unknown, Sun 27 Feb 2000 14:12
I'd have to agree with Oliver.

I've been burning for quite a long time and I'd have to say that Fireburner is no match for CloneCD (although I can't dish Fireburner because of the fact that it is better than CDRwin in realiabilty).

We have to remember that, an error is an error, who cares!

Anyway, CloneCD is the only thing I've seen so far that recognises sessions as sessions and not as tracks like that lowsy Blindread, heh. However, this is a good thing for me since it means that session cd protection can still be used to prevent people from copying your cds. Neat.

But it would probably be best not to call it perfect 1:1 copies for critiques, but you'd be just as well going it 1 : 0.99
By Unknown, Tue 29 Feb 2000 00:16
As i use to say: When Knowledge Is Empty, Aggression Takes Over! The author of FireBurner is probably jealous about Olli`s powerful CloneCD which really can DO IT ALL! And the whorst of all, he dosen`t even have the heart to give Olli an excuse for attacking him with false information, well we could even say false information to the WORLD! I would really like to see if the author of Fireburner could make such a dupelicator as CloneCD with his own hand and knowledge, prove it to us all and ia`m sure even Olli would forgive you :-) I have tried out CloneCD by my self and must say it is scary bugfree, and i have never failed to make a safety backup for network gaming with my friends, i like Discjuggler, Nero, CdrWin too, but they can`t do it all so CloneCD is the winner for me. Thank you Olli for a great product, i promise to register CloneCD at my next payday :-)..

To author of Fireburner: Do not wandering the wilderness cause Olli`s hiding there somewhere....

Greetz: Merlin The Wizard
By macrovisionsux, Thu 25 Oct 2001 02:51
Oliver Kastl has always been upfront and exactly clear about what clonecd is, and how it functions. to call it a hoax is simply innacurate. He is owed this apology by the author of fireburner. Ollie is the master! ps --Thank u for creating clonecd

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