Disc with fake Taiyo Yudens MIDs, why are they on the market and do they matter?
Posted on 30/05/05 18:34 by Jan Willem                             
Disc with fake Taiyo Yudens MIDs, why are they on the market and do they matter?

Some of you might have experienced it, purchasing relative cheap discs that are advertised with a Taiyo Yuden MID and when bought and burned they clearly are of low quality. In that case it is very likely that you have been purchasing discs manufactured by a smaller disc manufacturer that has decided to use the Taiyo Yuden (TY) Manufacturer IDentification code (MID) to ensure better compatibly as the MID code of this manufacturer is widely supported.

Dakhaas, one of our forum members has explained that many manufacturers are doing this because the drive manufacturers have not added support for their media in their firmware. Therefore the manufacturers have to find ways to make sure that their discs are burned by a drive anyway.

Now the manufacturer has 4 choices:

  • Fake a code that has superior support.
  • Try to get a licence of big named code.(MAM-A -> TDK)
  • Just go on with crap support.
  • Fund firmware hacking which allows better support (3A media)
  • Read more here

This means that media with a fake TY ID is not always bad quality. Shop owners should also not advertise these products as being genuine Taiyo Yuden discs but this seems to be the general consensus at the moment already. If you however find discs that are cheap and advertised as genuine Taiyo Yuden then be sure to check on our Media Forum first.

Source: CD Freaks

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By icey, Tuesday 31 May 2005 01:14
I still believe it is for TY to sort this mess out - take the 'fake' companies and those using it's MID code to court. The end customer gets ripped off, TY get a bad rep, and the sharlatan sellers get rich by either selling crap media, or good media that should not use another manufacturers ID code without express permission - and if doing so, should clearly state not manufactured by TY as part of the agreement.
By FreqNasty, Tuesday 31 May 2005 07:58
They should fake Princo's MID code because at least then it will be more representative of the disc quailty and have burner support.
By Shadowman69, Tuesday 31 May 2005 09:17
I've tried some "MyData" that are TYG02 fakes. Well they burn fine at 8x and are of overall good quality (burnt with LG4120b and PE PIF with NEC 3540a) BUT there is another big drawback with fake TY media. If you do not pay attention drives like the NEC try to burn them at 12x resulting in a DVD with several unrecoverable errors. Frown
By Rhelic, Tuesday 31 May 2005 15:57
Perhaps the best solution is to offer a community code that signifies the disc as "low quality" and "subpar quality". Any company is welcome to use the ID as long as their disc meets X standard. Then drive companies can add these disc IDs and anybody buying such disc can cross their fingers and burn.
By jockthecock, Tuesday 31 May 2005 17:03
jockthecockwell they could have used any code then so why do they all use TYG02 code then i still think they are trying to make people think they are getting ty's when they are getting sh*te
[edited by jockthecock on 31.05.2005 17:04]
By dakhaas, Tuesday 31 May 2005 22:39
dakhaasBecause Taiyo Yuden codes are the best supported on current drives. Really name me one drive that supports Taiyo Yuden codes crap. Also there have been reports of FAKE MAXELL, FAKE TDK (PRINCO) and FAKE MCC(MCC003 code !) so it's not TY alone.
By headquarter84, Thursday 02 June 2005 20:10
headquarter84wow... i was going to start a thread about tis thing... having many FAKE Verbatim (and i mean FAKE.. not the DataLife® CD's)... some labled as Verbatim DataLife/Plus with Metal S&P and NHPEARL!!!!! nothing related to AZO!!!! and holding the TY ATIP code... too many C2 Errors made with my Litey at any speed... and they even have Fake Verbatim/TY Manufactured 4X RWs!!! CRAAAAAPP
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