Finland makes illegal to make backups and talk about DRM
Posted on 12/10/05 21:05 by Quakester2000                             
Finland makes illegal to make backups and talk about DRM

heystoopid used our news submit to tell us that Finland's government has decided to pass a bill that makes it illegal even to copy media for personal use. The new copy law has already been criticised for both being badly written and for ignoring consumer rights. The legislation was passed with 121 votes to 35, with 40 MP's not present.

Finland had in the past always allowed people to make copies of their own digital products for personal use. Personal backups were allowed because of the extra tax put on blank media to compensate artists and copyright holders for such actions. The new bill makes it illegal to advertise, provide or possess tools that bypass DRM (Digital Rights Management).

P2Pnet has also pointed out that the bill also makes it illegal to discuss DRM breaking, tools or anything in organised groups that could disable DRM even for personal use.

The Finnish president has the authority to veto this new bill but this has rarely been exercised so is likely to pass into law unhindered. The bill was edited to ask the copyright holders to voluntarily not prosecute those that made personal backups.

LegalThe Finnish government voted yesterday to make it illegal to copy media, even for personal use, if you have to subvert copy protection to do so. The legislation was passed by 121 votes to 34. Forty-four MPs were absent. The updated copyright protection laws have been criticised for ignoring consumers' rights, and the bill itself has been branded confusing and badly worded.

Until now, Finland had allowed copying for personal use, and had a blank media levy in place to compensate authors. But under the new laws, not only will copying for personal use become illegal, so will possessing, distributing or advertising tools that break copy protection. P2PNet points out that the law prohibits even "organised discussion" of such things.

The Finnish president does have the right to veto the new legislation, but this right is very rarely exercised. According to Finnish News Agency STT, the government appended a note to the legislation asking content producing industries to voluntarily agree not to prosecute individuals for making a few copies for their own use.

I bet that levy (tax) on blank media will not be dropped anytime soon. Looks like another country has given into big business. No wonder there is such apathy in Europe when it comes to voting, you vote for your MP then they trample over you, the people that elected them, when it comes to laws like this.

It seems politicians just don't listen to what people want anymore, they just do what they want. I'm betting most normal people in the country wouldn't want this law passed, but then again, the politicians rarely care what public opinion is once they're elected, they have a few years before they have to worry what people think.

As for asking content providers not to sue voluntarily, in my opinion, I doubt this is going to work, but you are free to give your opinions.

Source: The Register

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By Web-Junkie, Wednesday 12 October 2005 22:29
How's that Monty Python Song go?? Finland, Finland, Finland, The country where I DON'T want to be, Locked up for making Backups, Or just recording TV, Finland, Finland, Finland, It's NOT the country for me! biggrin
By Quikee, Wednesday 12 October 2005 22:53
QuikeeWhat's next? Vote right only for those who bought at least 10 original movies or albums per year and a Microsoft Vote Certificate?
[edited by Quikee on 12.10.2005 22:57]
By yronnen, Wednesday 12 October 2005 23:05
"that the law prohibits even "organised discussion" of such things." So basically, the moment this bill is accepted, it can never be changed, because no one is allowed to talk about it. I think that RIAA lawyers are about to wet their pants.
By Tiikeri, Wednesday 12 October 2005 23:25
I'm Finnish, so that ain't so funnyFrown But check out the main 'Man' Behind this scheme, our Brainless "Minister of Culture", ex-lingerie model "Tanja Karpela". Still wondering how much local RIAA (Teosto) paid to her? She has no brains, but what a figure... (just search for "Tanja Karpela" in any P2P-network, and you understand what I'm talking aboutStick Out Tongue
By shimman, Wednesday 12 October 2005 23:34
then, the life span of copy righted material should be limited to like 10 years as there will be strict copy right management + tax on blank medias then this new law is acceptable
By manu_dvd, Thursday 13 October 2005 01:19
I hope all good Finnish ppl take a stance against this crap - it got... into gov so... it aint gonna change so fast... What next a german chancellor
By manu_dvd, Thursday 13 October 2005 01:29
>>Tiiker "She has no brains, but what a figure..." U gggggg eeeee uuuuu can do doooooo P2P-network- wot is dat?
By slyder2, Thursday 13 October 2005 01:52
Me tinks the Finnish are finished!cool
By whaledad, Thursday 13 October 2005 05:55
Not bad indeed: http://www.clubmoo.com/galleria/Tanja%20Karpela%20(Finnish%20MP)%20nude.jpg
By Sherrif, Thursday 13 October 2005 07:57
...WHoa manfat!!!....now one has to ask, were any of the others actually LOOKING at the bill?????........cool
By Tru, Thursday 13 October 2005 09:56
Hmm, I wonder... does Finland has some constitution? "Basic" laws like freedom of press? If yes, this is in danger due to this "censorship".
By warforpeace, Thursday 13 October 2005 10:06
warforpeaceShe should've stayed in the branch of nude, perhaps XXX entertainment.
By Ranmacanada, Thursday 13 October 2005 10:38
Well all I can say is if this does pass then any levies that are being collected should be stopped right away because those levies are no longer required to "protect" the media mafia for the legit backups that people make. And I agree with the poster that said politicians are no longer listening to their people. It seems the corruption is extremely widespread througout the world and pretty soon people in China will have more rights then we do. Seems the American way of Life Liberty and hte Puruit of money has really set in wherever the mafia can dig in it's claws. Looks like the French might be the only ones to win this war!
By Rockzor, Thursday 13 October 2005 12:55
How can people take a dumb blond so seriously that she even become a member of the Finish government? After seeing this http://www.sunpoint.net/~mavijo/tanja.html how supide can one be to vote on a chiccolina Stick Out Tongue
By eranros, Thursday 13 October 2005 15:48
Is it April 1st in Finland ?? What's next - a law that states you MUST watch commercials on TV . If you don't - you're sent to re-education.... I can understand a stupid ex-model MP - but 120 others voted for this law. According to this law, you can't record of the TV as well - cause it's copyrighted. Do they they have enough courts and jails for all those "criminals"? Seriously, I hope they have some sort of human rights movement over there to turn this fiasco around.
By claude06, Thursday 13 October 2005 15:51
Be nice with this Minister of culture .She is a true blonde(lager), thus she did not understand what she signed... cool
By darwin03, Thursday 13 October 2005 16:21
So much for Democracies where the majority of voters elect people (politicians to actually represent the majority) to actually represent the MAJORITY as they are suppossed to do, and actually listen to what the majority want. Sounds more like the Adolf Hitler years where he started initially to take peoples rights away bit by bit, and we all know where that ended up after a few years don't we! Unless people exercise their democratic rights and let there (alledgedly at least) elected representatives who are supposedly there to represent the majority know what they want (IE: ring,write,email them) they will contiinue to ignore those same people who elected them because they can (and besides the avearge person does not DONATE LARGE SUMS OF MONEY to them and there political parties like big businesses do. Maybe we should let them know we want the laws changed to make it a criminal offense for them to take donations from businesses seeing how they are (alledgedly it would seem nowdays) PUBLIC SERVANTS (which means they SHOULD ACTUALLY serve the Public's interests, not BIG BUSINESS). After all it is us the majority of voters who elect these people to reprsent us the majority, so let your politicians know they are there for US THE MAJORITY NOT THE SMALL MINORITY OF RICH BIG COMPANIES AS THEY SEEM TO BE THERE FOR NOWDAYS. LET THEM KNOW THAT AT THE NEXT ELECTION THEY FACE YOU WILL NOT VOTE FOR ANY POLITICAL PARTY OR CANDIDATE THAT IGNORES THE ORDINARY PERSON WHO IS IN THE MAJORITY PURELY FOR THE SAKE OF THE MINORITY BIG BUSINESS PERSON (who Funnily enough probably donated large sums of money to their political party). And do you still have to pay the levy on blank media. Unfortunately the greed factor has blinded a lot of Politicians/Governments when the greedy money grubbing companies make large donations to political candidates/parties and common sense goes out the window. Come on people that is what a democracy is about, and that is the people letting thier elected representatives know what they want. Instead of saying what can I do about it, do something about it, complain to you local/state/and federal Politicians and KEEP COMPLAINING TILL THEY GIVE THE MAJORITY OF VOTERS WHAT THEY WANT AND ARE ENTITLED TO UNDER A DEMOCRATIC SYSTEM OF GOVERNMENT, liek they say if it is to be it is up to me the individual, and a lot of individuals can change the world!!!! PEOPLE POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!
By MPEGit, Thursday 13 October 2005 17:43
And remember also that Afterdawn.com is from Finland Wink Let's see how they will react for this new law. I think other finnish sites has to follow them. Well the war ain't over yet, we just have to wait and see... Stick Out Tongue
By anr11, Friday 14 October 2005 22:15
Germany adopted a similar law quite some time ago. I believe this was an EU mandate. Here, although there is a law on the books that allows people to make copies for personal use, another law states that you may not bypass (or even discuss the bypassing thereof) any copy protection in order to make a copy, even for your own personal use. Seeing as how most media is copy protected in some form or another, this pretty much negates the first law. And to top it off, we pay an extra tax on media and electronic devices to cover the copying that we are not allowed to do in the first place. puke
By Rhelic, Monday 17 October 2005 19:53
Hmm making even discussion of DRM tools a crime? Sounds like a 'thought crime' to me. Good thing I don't live in finland, this news story but me against the law, along with my post!
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