Microsoft reps take on first gen Toshiba 1080i HD-DVD players
Posted on 26/03/06 16:58 by Dan Bell                             
Microsoft reps take on first gen Toshiba 1080i HD-DVD players

It's no secret that the first players that are to be released by Toshiba for HD-DVD playback, are limited to 1080i (interlaced) resolution. At least we have been told this is the case for the HD-A1 and HD-XA1 models due out in the next weeks. For some of us, this seems a bit risky- as why would we want such a player if it cannot produce the highest resolution from a blue laser disc, 1080p (progressive)? The investment for one of these players is significant to most and with a format war to boot, we want to be sure we are making good decisions. 

Here we have an interview with Richard Doherty, a senior manager for Microsoft, who is also an administrative member of the AACS Licensing body. This is the group responsible for copy protection mechanisms for both HD DVD and Blu-ray players. In this talk, Mr. Doherty dismissed the whole issue, since owners of 72 frames per second, 1080p displays, will be able to "digitally reconstruct" the 1080p image from the 1080i signal.

Microsoft's Doherty conceded that manufacturers will see cost differences between implementing 1080p and 1080i signaling, both for the analog connection and the HDMI digital connection, and that those costs may have played a factor in Toshiba's initial design choice.  "The vast majority of all HDTVs delivered so far do not know how to communicate at 1080p," said Doherty, "so Toshiba in their very first players has made a design decision that can be changed in the future, and in fact, could likely be changed on existing players...by a firmware update to support communication over 1080p."

But another way that consumers could solve the dilemma of how to get the optimal picture quality from a first-generation HD DVD player, Doherty said, is for them to purchase a modern HDTV display that can reproduce a 1080p image.  Because the high-def signal is digital to begin with, he said, "you can in fact reconstruct completely the original frames, no matter how you communicate.  So in fact, the difference over the digital connection is meaningless, and we're getting into a lot of areas of 1080p versus 1080i that, in fact, have no consumer difference whatsoever.

"Because [the signal] originally came from a progressive source - 1080p/24 on the disc - and was communicated in a digital form," Doherty reiterated, "it can be completely reconstructed in its native, original form."

In response to statements from Blu-ray proponents that its first-wave support of 1080p places it automatically ahead of HD DVD in the format war, Doherty classified their argument as "a big red herring."  The current, new generation of so-called "smart displays" for HDTV, he said, whose maximum output is 1080p/60, should be capable of re-compositing the signal most appropriate for displaying film or video encoding from any high-definition disc.  "So a very smart display," he said, "could take a connection in any format - whether that be 1080p/24, 1080i/30, or 1080p/60 - and reconstruct the appropriate and best-looking display for the display that you're looking at."

Well there you have it! If you would like to read the TG Daily interview in it's entirety at the source, please visit this link. As you can see, this person has quite a lot of information at his disposal. The firmware upgrade comment is interesting indeed.

Source: TG Daily

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By Discman, Sunday 26 March 2006 17:18
There is still no excuse! I doubt a 1080I signal could be recontructed to Progressive as good as a native 1080P signal. With the exception of Universal support and cheaper players, HD-DVD is losing its grip.
By Jim Kiler, Sunday 26 March 2006 18:08
What a bunch of Bologne!
By hajj_3, Sunday 26 March 2006 18:11
no-ones gunna be a 1st gen hd-dvd!
By Tru, Sunday 26 March 2006 19:03
The man is right, it can be reconstructed. But the best display for movies would of course be 1080i/p/48, (2x24 fps) but the industry was too stupid to make the right design choice from the beginning. Poor people in PAL countries will still see all movies 4% too fast and the sound 4% too high in pitch (1080i/50... sigh) If they invent a new format (two formats, in fact), why can't they just do it "right"? cry
By johnzap, Sunday 26 March 2006 19:24
johnzapOf course M$ wants Blu-Ray to to die and HD-DVD to be the winner. So, every things they say about all this, should be taken with a very big grain of salt...
By freonchill, Sunday 26 March 2006 19:35
half the product, half the price... so these hd-dvd players are supposed to cost like $600-800, ill give them $200 for one and not a penny over $25 per title. or wait - how about they PAY ME to waste my time watching their crap that isnt even set to a standard that will be reliablely reproduced in 5 years.
By GezusK, Monday 27 March 2006 06:56
GezusKAnd I doubt you have any idea what you're saying. Do you know what interlacing is? All the TV has to do is wait for both sets of scans lines to be sent, and you'll have the full progressive image. The drives and communcation likely happen faster that was the actual playback rate is, so there won't even be a delay. You should really had Blu-Ray then, using an old codec (MPEG2) instead of newer more efficent ones. The discs have to be larger to hold the 1080p MPEG2 files.
[edited by GezusK on 27.03.2006 06:58]
By Shadowman69, Monday 27 March 2006 11:08
For the disk this is not an issue because you can store directly in 1080P and let the player/TV set do the correct adjustment for their best output. For the player I really want to see if toshiba or other manifacturers will go out with the first HD DVD players stating that you can switch to 1080p later with just a firmware update... Besides I'm in the group that will boycott the initial releases of both HD DVD and BR... supergrin
By Kenshin, Monday 27 March 2006 11:12
Then why not 1080p on DVD? All you need is a latest processor.
By mpeace, Monday 27 March 2006 13:58
Same here! Just wait until all the problems are solved, the prices are down, one of the two formats has become standard (if that ever happens) and they actually have a product ready for Market. So with all that in mind I see a minimum of 5 years until I can start thinking about it. lol Sacd has been on the market for at least 5 years. :-) (and also until it's no problem to rework the drm and rescaling and so on (probably first on a hardware level))
By greensabath, Monday 27 March 2006 15:23
All you people who wanna buy this CRAP are retarded. Why do you want to buy something that is going to tell you what you can and can't do with it. Why are you going to buy something that will charge you money for features that should be free. I say Boycott both HDDVD and Bluray, because they are retarded. DVD is fine for me anyways, at least until DVDJon cracks these "new and improved" products.
By elec999, Saturday 01 April 2006 03:23
We need high quality dvd movies. But first dont overprice the players. I would never pay more then $200 for a player. Thanks
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