CubaLibre used our news submit to tell us "It comes as no surprise that, if the music industry had its way, a person who legally purchased a song, but wants to know its lyrics or learn to play it, would have to pay a second time for this. What is once again disturbing, however, is that the music industry wants to influence the lawmaking process in order to protect its deprecated business model: they think that people who illegally distribute song lyrics or scores should not only be fined (as is prescribed by law), but also put in jail. Adam Smith"s quote "People of the same trade seldom meet together, even for merriment and diversion, but the conversation ends in a conspiracy against the public, or in some contrivance to raise prices." is certainly applicable to trade associations such as the RIAA and the MPA..."
The music industry is to extend its copyright war by taking legal action against websites offering unlicensed song scores and lyrics. The Music Publishers" Association (MPA), which represents US sheet music companies, will launch its first campaign against such sites in 2006. MPA president Lauren Keiser said he wanted site owners to be jailed. He said unlicensed guitar tabs and song scores were widely available on the internet but were "completely illegal". Mr Keiser said he did not just want to shut websites and impose fines, saying if authorities can "throw in some jail time I think we"ll be a little more effective".
The Internet, always a venue for the free sharing of information, in it's early years was described as a lake 100 miles across, but only an inch deep. Today, it has become an integral part of our lives for most of us. A boon for research, industry and commerce with it's vast amount of useful information, it has now grown into a veritable ocean of knowledge. However, like everything, there are two sides to consider.
Right now, we can invoke software that can go out on the 'Net and retrieve the lyrics for free as we listen to our tracks. This is an example of how the Internet has become so useful and can give developers ideas to create new exciting things, often completly free. Unfortunately, it appears that due to the perceived loss of revenue from reduced sales of guitar tabs and sheet music, these days are in danger of coming to an end, as it is once again an intellectual property issue. But, just like the music industry, it could also possibly be about taking over a concept and putting a price tag on it for a new business model!
We can imagine it will not be long before we see pay for services to do such tasks and the first step is to make the free models illegal. But, since it is about money, lets leave it there and at least forgo the incarcerations. These cages are best left vacant for other more dangerous candidates.
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Yep, I could see a lot of fan tribute sites closing down overnight.
I wonder if the groups and artists are even aware of this and I wonder if they will intervene on their fans behalf.
What a great way to further screw the public who is already fed up with corrupted CDs that they can't play on their MP3 players and Cds that install malware.
Now where are the parents will go to see what lyrics their children are listening to?
The music industry already has a very bad relationship with their customers and potential new customers, this just makes it worse.
To be honest I thought those sort of things, lyrics, tab, etc would help the sales of music. When I try to learn and play a song I generally like to play along to the CD, MP3, etc.
Admittedly they will lose some sales of guitar tab and such like but I thought the advantages out weigh the negatives.
@lastdon- I pulled all company names. I do not want to draw attention to anyone at a time like this. My intent was to show the impact of such legislation on the Internet model and how we will lose some of the most useful and fun applications due to it. But, I was able to do so this way just as effectively. Thank you for opening my eyes.
You know, this is making me sick. If there's an album I like, I BUY it. If I think it's just "OK", I won't buy it. I can get all of this shit for free, but I buy the ones I really like.
This is making me feel like I should not buy anything from them, just to boycott. I think that's what this is leading me to.
This is getting ridiculous!! I cant believe they are so greedy. I dont see any of the big artists on mtv living in a house like mine. The music execs make more money than the artists do. now is that fair? This just makes me download everything i can even i dont even know who or what the artists is. I know one thing, i will never buy a cd again. was thinking of buying a christmas album but not now. this is nuts.
@Crabbyappleton
I hope you didn't find my post offensevily
but the way they are goign even IF we mention the word R I * * we might get sued. lol
man these people have nothing else to do , honestly
Dont sign a lyric u might get sued
U CAN ONLY LISTEN to music DONT SING along people THEY ARE WATCHING!
yes indeed, ban the singing! those damn bastard stealing authors work!
and while we're at that, IF by any chance any of your friends hear you singing a song DAMN you'll go to JAIL for pirating and distributing copyrighted work! It doesn't matter that your friends might like it aswell and buy it aswell, noono, it's not like that, you dang PIRATE!
Heck no lastdon! I appreciate your comment. I love those softwares and do not want to see them destroyed, imessed up by naming names to make a point! Good thing it was not up long heheheheheh. But, I hate to say it these sites will go down in the name of capitalism!
Crabbyappleton
"scourge of the RIAA" [edited by Crabbyappleton on 14.12.2005 18:13]
If a person releases a song that steals from another, only they change ONE note, it's okay. (see "Ice, Ice Baby")
So, how many guitar tabs have you actually seen online that are note-for-note perfect?
They're rarely, if ever, correct. I usually don't even bother with tab online because I want to play it right.
The RIAA can sue you and you can say, "Listen to this" and play it and be like, "See, that's not even right. PISS OFF!"
Hey, in the USA, the two music publishing organizations BMI and ASCAP charge businesses a performance licensing fee if they have any form of copyrighted music playing. This includes bars, clubs, etc that have either a live band or a jukebox. Also, business that play music to you over the phone while you're "on hold" likewise have to pay a license fee. If at your place of employment, someone has a radio or cd playing that more than the owner can overhear, technically, they're supposed to pay a license fee. Stores that play Muzak have to pay. It's for "public performance" of the copyrighted music. And they do enforce it, they send agents out to snoop around and see if any place has audible music playing who hasn't payed a license. If they find one, it's lawyer time, they sue.
Th only thing that I know of that is exempt is if someone is playing live, original, uncopyrighted mucic. Like a live solo guitarist in a cafe playing his own non-copyrighted songs.
These organizations take this extortion money they collect, take their cut off the top, and then distribute anything that's left over to their registered artists. The artists' individual share percentage is related to how their record sales are doing. In other words, the money collected from a Blues club goes directly into the pockets of Britney Spears and Enemaem. Tell me how that's fair.
Are they having a laugh. They can kiss my pimpled ass! I think the RIAA and MPA people should be jailed for having stupid ideas.
I'm sorry to start swearing, but they need to stop being so stupid.
Edited swear word to "pimpled" I would like to see them kiss a pimpled ass! [edited by Crabbyappleton on 14.12.2005 20:02]
@Temo- Here in Colorado, the RIAA sued and caused the shut down a popular dance club that played satellite music, as they did not pay the fees you are talking about. The strange thing is this club was in a very small town and I always thought it odd that they even found them in the first place.
I'm one of those guys who hears a few words of a lyric (or remembers only a few words from a song from long ago), and does a lyrics search to find out the title, author, and album of the song so I might be able to purchase it. Busting sites that defy the purpose of the Internet (research!) doesn't do anyone a favor.
Rather than take the easy and morally questionable option of going after their own customers doing it for personal use to enjoy the music more, why not target the pirates who sell and actually profit from it? Surely they should be more concerned about someone making money from their work and not getting their dues. Rather than a private individual doing it just for their personal enjoyment.
How many times do you hear the RIAA claiming to have sued or busted a pirated CD seller? I'm sure a few months ago they even admitted that CD-R piracy was causing more damage than downloading.
In recent years the record companies have been building publishing rights into their recording contracts. So when Joe Blow signs a record deal the record companies also become publisher.
My suspicion is that the MPA is just another puppet organization ran by the record companies who are also publishers.
So why is it so hard to get artists to tell the major labels to F*ck off and just go to a decent independent lable? It isn't like they are going to get screwed any worse.
I wonder how long it will be before someone on TV gets sued for quoting a line from some movie. This shit is so far out of hand it is insane and the friggen public just keeps on putting up with this shit.
Incredible!!!
How much longer will it be that the record companys put their people on the street to stop folks singing their copyrighted songs and charge them a royalty fee? [edited by nailzer on 15.12.2005 02:35]
plz mods, before u react to me... just plz read my whole reaction... as if... well...
ok, i'm supposed to "take it easy" but I CANNOT!! these fucking assholes are trying to take away all what's left of the enjoyment of the so called "MUSIC"... NOT ALL ALBUMS COME WITH LYRICS!!!! i used to set beside my tape recorder for hours, trying to decypher the lyrics, and then transfer it to my friends who don't really know english that well, and what about lyrics in other languages!!! don't i have the right to know the meaning??? or "translating copyrighted f**n lyrics" is ILLEGAL... plz just, wts legal for the IRAA.... my whole life is built upon MUSIC.... I AM A VIOLIN PLAYER IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!! and i'm a elec-bass player as well, i get tabs from the net and write tabs by my own so i can reharse it with my friends!!! what do u think Vivaldi or Paganini will say when they see this.... THEY WILL F***K THE RIAA FOR SURE... it's ART you F**** ARTHOLES!!!! IT IS NOT BUSINESS!!! and go get f**D.... as long as the bands are in our side, as long as they care for fans, not selling out like other **** do... no names.. METARIAA....
an underground spanish band that i won't mention the name of.... they need no trouble from such systems.... have emailed me, thanked me for my support, and proposed to send me THEIR FULL DEBUT ALBUM if i cannot by it in here... in this F****N SICK COUNTRY.... so what, are the IRAA gonna sue me??? the band put their demoes on EMule, and i'm a releaser, and proud of it, as i helped this wonderful band to have more and more fans, and i'm trying now to help them out as i can in whatever they might ask for.... some ppl deserve everything... but if u care to give that Britney WHORE an extra funds... then come have a bite of my ass... as i will never download a lyric for that scum.... respectable bands of all respected MUSICAL genres must make their move RIGHT NOW!!! this joke we're living here must BE STOPPED AT ONCE!!!
these financially-sickheads have never felt what knowledge, art, and culture and the sharing of it do mean...
they deserve a hard lesson...
they deserve a disaster in the "MUSIC INDUSTRY" world...
let them know that ART IS FOR EVERYBODY!!! WE ARE NOT ROBBING THE ARTISTS... they deserve all the best... QUITE LIKE WE DO!!!! we are HUMAN AFTERALL... NOT SHEEP...
and please mods, for god sake, don't delete a word from my reaction... maybe i swore... but GOD!!! that's TOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH!!!! they're F***NG US AND WE"RE NOT SCREAMING!!!! don't we have the "Right" to tell them how we "FEEL" about "IT"..??? or is it illegal as well... just as BREATHING is?? [edited by headquarter84 on 15.12.2005 02:58]
What about Karaoke?
Your singing karaoke and then out of know where RIAA swat turn up and arrest everyone for singing a copyrighted song
WHAT a LOAD of S**t
die riaa
anyone in the maffia reading this ? well your organised crime arnt you maybe you should go after the mpa riaa and do us all a favour hell ithink even people would chip in