GristyMcFisty we know, that last month a new audio copy-protection was introduced to the UK, which causes major compatibility problems on many CD-Players. Especially car CD-Players are affected.
Interesting point: The radio stations and the BPI put the blame on the car manufacturers for not keeping up to date with their (red book compatible) CD-Players.
"Are you sure it's not the places you're buying your CDs from?" an intrepid reporter from the BBC's Home Service You and Yours program asks an unhappy Volkswagon owner who heard nothing but silence in his car when he played the new CDs.
Matt Phillips from the British Phonographic Institute was on hand to fill explain. "I think you have to look at the changes in the CD format over the last couple of years," says Phillips. "The CD format was first introduced in 1980 … and there were standards to make sure all CDs would play. But things have moved on since then." "In order to offer the consumers greater choice and a better package, we've seen that record companies are not only introducing enhanced CDs and video content, but it means the format has ever so slightly changed." "So what the record industry has done is work very, very carefully with the manufacturers of these CDs and this format … and completely borked them."
Actually, he didn't say that really, although this would have been closer to the truth. What he said was - "So what the record industry has done is work very very carefully with the manufacturers of these CDs and this format to make sure all these CDs play across a number of formats."
Except in cars, of course. Phillips explains, and make sure you're sitting down for this next one. "The CD player he has got in his car is not actually, initially supposed to play audio CDs." Huh? "Now that might sound a bit strange," says Phillips. Indeed it does. "But within the context of copy protection … there have been a number of problems not only with cars but drives. Manufacturers must be aware of specifications that have changed considerably since 1980."
As we can read in this Register article, the IFPI stated in their guidelines of May 2002, that record company labels should clearly indicate what kinds of machines the discs will and will not play on.
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What ***holes these people are. If I buy a CD today it should run on my 1st generation CD player that was made in the '80s. Blaming the cd manufactureres for not keeping up with the latest copy protection is bull****. If the player playes every cd tested that conforms to the original CD format then the player works. If new CDs don't play in the player becuase they have added copy protection then it is the manufacturer of those CDs that are to blame for not testing them on every CD player.
I used to listen to music primarily in the car and this would have pissed me off if I still purchased cds.
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It's a farce,if you have a cd player in your car,what you gonna do listen to the radio!
We should pass the word around NOT to buy cd's,downloaders get blamed for sales slumps,copy protection so spread the world and let them see what WILL REALLY HAPPEN when all get downloading.
So tell your friends,family anyone to start downloading as much as possible instead of buying cd's,share,buy a cd bewtween 10 of you and as you have all paid a bit you can all get a copy,DO NOT BUY CD'S ANYMORE unless that cd is copied at least 15 times.(NOTE the term cd's is not seen anywhere on discs with protection
I'd just like to add there is not copy protection that stops songs being ripped from a cd type disc(they're careful not to call them cd's when they have protection!),so rip the songs then reburn and give all your m8's a copy and tel them to do them same.
Tell them you copy is more compatible than the original,which wil be very true for car cd players,lol talk about biting the hand that feeds you.Well done EMI for a major own goal.All this does is drive people to buy their cd's more compatible(and ALOT cheaper) sources.
Keep it up is all I can say,there will never be a copy protection system that cannot be beaten,and people will not allow labels to tell them what they can and can't listen to their music(which they paid for) on just because the label is paranoid about piracy.
The labels have stolen off us for years and now they realise by downloading we can fight and they s*** scared about that,let's not disapoint them!!!
What good is a CD that won't play anywhere. And why are people still stupid enough to buy them. Just take it back to the store and get your money back. And if they say no, or they say anything about store credit, make it obvious that you're not leaving until you get it, even if you have to use physical force.
I can only tell people again and again:
Please, do not buy copy protected Audio CDs. These are not real Audio CDs. They do not comply to international standards. Nobody can guarantee you, that they will play on the next player you'll buy in 2 years.
If you boycott them, maybe the industry will stop doing this crap.
I went to HMV store today to look at some DVDs...GOD...the place was packed..and every second person in the Q was buying a n Audio CD....The record companies are complaining that the loosing money because of music downloading, and copying. thats why those steps are nessesary...(YEAH..sure instead of billions...they're making 100s of millions !!).
WELL THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT IF THEY CONTINUE TO RELASE CD WHICH DONT WORK...THERE'RE GOING TO BE MORE DOWNLOADING FROM NET !!!
It costs them 20-40 pence (UK) to press a CD..and they charging £10-20 for a CD, and expect to pay another £100+ to buy a CD player which the CD will work on !!!
I say F * * K THEM !!!!!!!!!
BIGpol
ITS NOTHING BUT GREED !!!!!
Buy the album,copy it then take it back saying it's not compatible with your cd player,find one of your players it does not work on or your car cd player this is an ideal opprtunity to really heart these labels in the pocket.
If they argue say the goods are faulty as it does not play the important bit is copy it you have bought it at the time you copied it!
Most playrs will not play these new protected discs anyway,I recieved one as a gift and it only played on my pc which they are not supposed to do!
If they see loads of copy protected cd's being legitimately returned due to incompatibilty they will either have to stop the protection or sell no albums it's that simple.
Isn't it actually ironic you have to COPY the album to make it compatible!!!
Next they will charge more and include a copy free version along with the copy protected one and charge more money...you wait and see!
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I can only tell people again and again:
Please, do not buy copy protected Audio CDs. These are not real Audio CDs. They do not comply to international standards. Nobody can guarantee you, that they will play on the next player you'll buy in 2 years.
If you boycott them, maybe the industry will stop doing this crap.
CD's aren't being sold anymore. if a 'cd player' wont play it, how can u call it a cd? this is sheer and utter crap
