Petitions to try and save / kill HD DVD
Posted on 22/01/08 11:21 by Seán Byrne                             
Petitions to try and save / kill HD DVD

Following the recent decision by Warner to drop HD DVD, several petitions have been set up to try to either save or kill the HD DVD format, going by this High-Def Digest report.  The petition "Save HD DVD!" aims to convince Warner Brothers to reverse its decision and them that the consumer has not "clearly" chosen Blu-ray, despite Warner claiming their move is the best thing for the consumer.  The description also mentions about some features HD DVD has had from the start, which Blu-ray drives have not had, such as PIP, web-enabled features and so on. 

The other petition, "Let HD DVD Die" aims to get the remaining HD DVD supporters to switch over to start producing Blu-ray discs again to kill the HD DVD format and bring an end to the format war.  This petition claims that defeat is the right way to go for the consumers since it has not won over consumers despite all the sales during the busy shopping season. 

At this time of writing, the "Save HD-DVD!" petition has received over 11,200 total signatures and has been running since January 5th.  The "Let HD DVD Die" petition has received over 3,400 total signatures, but it is unclear how long this one has been running for.  According to High-Def Digest, this one has received the most signatures for the pro-Blu-ray petitions.

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By DeadMan, Tue 22 Jan 2008 12:55
DeadManThose petitions do NOTHING!
By DukeNukem, Tue 22 Jan 2008 15:20
DukeNukemAgreed. I really wanted HD DVD to win, but it's starting to look like it will die a horrible death. My response is to still buy that 50" LCD screen, but watch my hi-def movies from my brand spankin' new x264 player (whenever someone gets around to inventing it, of course). $ony will never see a dime of my money again. Neither will I support ANY form of DRM. Take THAT corporate world !!! Smilie
By Zod, Tue 22 Jan 2008 17:35
ZodI think warner was right, that one format would be better for the consumer. With two formats, mass adoption might not ever happen, and the best thing that can happen is mass adoption. Look how far dvd prices fell in the last 5 years. We want studios to make a profit so they keep putting out their catalogs in an HD format and I don't think it'd be all that profitible without widespread use. HD DVD was good because they're was no region coding at it was more easily hackable, but if we can narrow it down to one format i'm ok. I'm still not all that big on legal digitial downloads. btw a x264 player would be awesome!
By EPiPH0N3 (guest), Tue 22 Jan 2008 17:39
You can buy an x264 player here: http://www.popcornhour.com/onlinestore/ loveit
By Skimash (guest), Tue 22 Jan 2008 18:52
If BR wins the format war, then the only people who really win are Sony! To put the control of hardware into the hands of a company that controls so much software is dangerous for the consumer when the company concerned has such a draconian view of fair rights and is willing to stomp all over the user in its pursuit of profits.
By Electrox3d, Tue 22 Jan 2008 20:00
Electrox3dCan I please point out that if you look through the signatures of the "save hd dvd" petition you'll find MOST of the signatures are of people supporting Blu-ray saying stuff like "Blu-rules!" etc etc.
By clickme (guest), Tue 22 Jan 2008 20:38
#1 HD DVD HAS DRM! True it has less DRM than blu-ray but it still HAS DRM! It's called AACS. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=aacs++%22hd+dvd%22&btnG=Google+Search #2 All high def TVs as far as I know have DRM. It's called HDCP. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=hdcp&btnG=Search Remember when all the early adopters had to buy new high def TVs? Are they going to try that again? #3 DivX the CODEC had DRM too! It says so right on their website: http://www.divx.com/company/partner/drm.php http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=divx+drm&btnG=Google+Search #4 That X264 player has DRM. It says it has it right on the website: http://www.popcornhour.com/onlinestore/ http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Cardea+DRM&btnG=Google+Search DRM IS NOT LIMITED TO SONY!!!!!!!!!! About the only way to avoid it is to go Amish. Might as well what good is a video recorder that won't record? The music industry is dropping DRM because we didn't buy. We're winning that war. Why support DRM in other products?
By 4wd, Wed 23 Jan 2008 00:06
@clickme #4 That X264 player has DRM. Yes, it has DRM but it only pertains to Windows Streaming Media. It will still play everything else that's DRM free. So just don't buy any Windows Media downloads - they'll get the message eventually. No need to deprive yourself of an x264 player just because of one company's retarded vision of the planet.
By Rich86, Wed 23 Jan 2008 05:44
Rich86"Posted by Electrox3d on Tuesday 22 January 2008 20:00 Can I please point out that if you look through the signatures of the "save hd dvd" petition you'll find MOST of the signatures are of people supporting Blu-ray saying stuff like "Blu-rules!" etc etc." That's only because their parents haven't realized they are playing on the internet instead of doing their homework . . . cool
By corrector (guest), Wed 23 Jan 2008 16:49
@4wd and pretty much anyone else: The restrictions on Blu-ray are entirely optional too. If you burn x264 videos on Blu-ray you won’t get any DRM, not even a rootkit, but there are some people who still refuse to buy Blu-ray because of Sony’s DRM record. Speeking of rootkits that audio CD rootkit is long over with. Sony recalled the infected CDs and moved on: http://www.google.com/search?as_q=rootkit+recall+sony&hl=en&num=100&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&lr=&cr=&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=all&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&as_occt=any&as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=&as_rights=&safe=images The CD rootkit died because people stopped buying that DRM junk and slammed Sony on the Internet and THAT is how you kill DRM dead and permanently. Unfortunetly we still have DRM infected products because those same people who screamed “DEATH TO SONY!” in big red caps over the rootkit still buy DRM infected garbage from other companies. Go to any place that sells electronics and you’ll find more DRM there than you will in a Sony CD. The music industry is slowly dropping DRM because we’re not buying it. “No need to deprive yourself of an x264 player just because of one company's retarded vision of the planet.” It’s NOT ONE COMPANY!!! It’s the entire industry. It’s Toshiba, Microsoft, Apple, Panasonic, JVC, Samsung, LG, Vizio, Trutech, Lite-on, Tivo, Nvidia, ATI, Intel, AMD, Motorola, and a whole bunch of others that have implemented HDCP, Trusted computing, locked phones and other restrictions. I don’t consider missing unskippable ads and replacing perfectly good TVs depravity. Depravity is what you get when you’re restricted. Don’t get me started on Windows Media. Long story short when it first came out, but was final, NOT BETA I tried it. I downloaded the same .WMA from the windows media website 8 times on 4 different computers with entirely different hardware, and 2 different operating systems. I tried Windows Updates, rebooting turning the computers off and on, but it still wouldn’t work. Tried it again 3 days later with no changes to my system and it worked FINALLY! Something was wrong with their licensing server. It’s not over. I sent it up to the computer attached to the stereo through Ethernet, NOPE! DRM won’t let me do that. Had to redownload it. Two weeks later after finally getting that stupid song to play the file expired. I’d had it. Went to the Original Napster, downloaded the .MP3 and (no surprise) it worked the first time, every time on every PC and even worked when I burned it to CD. MLB fans are getting a similar experience: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=baseball+windows+media+DRM&btnG=Search http://www.downloadsquad.com/2007/11/07/fans-shafted-as-major-league-baseball-revokes-drm-licenses/ http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fasterforward/2007/11/baseballs_drm_strikes_out_1.html I’d STRONGLY recommend AGAINST anything with Windows media. Even if DRM is optional there too. That’s worse than anything Sony has done.

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