Pioneer to release Dual format HD-DVD / Blu-Ray Writer
Posted on 01/09/06 14:49 by Quakester2000                             
Pioneer to release Dual format HD-DVD / Blu-Ray Writer

Pioneer will soon be following up its current next generation Blu-ray writer with a model that supports Dual Layer Blu-Ray media the BDR-102. While this may excite some users the most exciting announcement is that they plan to release new drives sometime next year that can also handle the competing HD-DVD format.

The first new drive that Pioneer will release is the BDR-102 which will add support for the CD-R/RW format which their current drives lack. The BDR-102 will ship sometime next year and may be released in two types one that supports IDE and the other that supports SATA. The writing speeds have not been released and its not known how fast it will write to single or dual layer Blu-Ray discs.

But the most exciting piece of hardware is probably the BDR-103 which will integrate support for both Blu-Ray and HD-DVD formats into one drive. No specifications have been released and its not known if it will still support CDR/RW and what speeds will be available.

Pioneer LogoPioneer will follow up the release of its... er... pioneering Blu-ray Disc recorder with an updated model that supports dual-layer media, it has emerged. And the company said it is planning to offer a version that can also handle HD DVD.

The first new drive, the BDR-102 will also support CD-R/RW discs, another disc format missing from the company's current product, the BDR-101. The BDR-102 is due to ship early next year, possibly in two versions, one with an IDE interface, the other with a SATA connector. It's not clear at what speeds the BDR-102 will write single- and dual-layer, 25GB and 50GB BD-R and BD-RE discs.

Further out, the BDR-103 will bring on board support for HD DVD, presumably recordable and rewriteable versions of the format as well as pre-recorded discs.

It looks like Dual format drives are going to be the mainstream just like we have +R and -R, and I wouldn't be surprised if it isn't long before Dual format players start appearing either. So really the format war that is meant to be looming may not be a difficult choice for consumers after all especially if devices support both formats. It may end up like the +R / '“R war irrelevant unless you have bought first generation hardware.

Source: The Register

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By ivid, Friday 01 September 2006 14:56
I'll buy that !
By jef195, Friday 01 September 2006 15:03
...For a Dollar!
By Crabbyappleton, Friday 01 September 2006 15:08
CrabbyappletonAt least a hybrid player would allow one to get all the content that is going to be available. Each side would get the royalty for their format as well. Probably this is best for the consumer to have both formats if hybrid players/recorders come along, as it will drive competition. Each format will try to out do the other and also it may help drive prices down faster on media. The hybrid recorder/players coupled with a low enough price on blank media, could make blue laser practical for archiving/transporting information. Time will tell. But, there is always a flip side. Who would buy a blue laser player or recorder right now, until they had more information on these hybrids?
[edited by Crabbyappleton on 01.09.2006 15:12]
By Ozb, Friday 01 September 2006 15:08
I guess it's the way to go...but this whole "WAR" is still completely annoying though...
By Dr. Who, Friday 01 September 2006 15:21
Dr. WhoYou couldn't say it any better.biggrin
By JamesL, Friday 01 September 2006 15:28
The war is over! With this announcement the floodgates will open...dual drives from LG, Liteon, Samsung and probably many others. And from there dual format will flood into the CE market. This is great development!
By JamesL, Friday 01 September 2006 15:57
>>>> Who would buy a blue laser player or recorder right now, until they had more information on these hybrids? <<<< Well our experience with DVD recorders has shown that a hybrid PC drive to a hybrid CE player can be several years - so it's makes sense to buy a single format player now with the intention of going dual format in a couple of years. I might be tempted to wait on the PC front though. The announcement seems to suggest (by the numbering of the drive) that it is only a few months away.
By SamuriHL, Friday 01 September 2006 17:44
SamuriHLThis will actually hurt Sony in the end, not help them. Why? Because the PS3 will be bluray only. Smilie They're placing all their faith in the concept that they can win the "war" and get everyone to release their content on one format...theirs. However, if hybrid devices become the norm, there is less pressure on studios to back one or the other format. Great for the consumer and studios, bad for anyone who thinks the war should be won. Smilie
By El_Mariachi_X, Friday 01 September 2006 19:52
El_Mariachi_Xyay like the -r vs +r era!
By I Have Piles, Saturday 02 September 2006 00:30
it will be mainstream if anyone can be arsed to buy them, people still object to the price of dual layer DVD media and look how old that is.
By zebra, Saturday 02 September 2006 05:17
zebraOdd.... Pioneer are strenuously denying the validity and factual nature of this article. I wonder why?
By valnar, Saturday 02 September 2006 18:23
Good for Pioneer, bad for us. I don't want something that supports both formats. Well, not really. I want an undisputed winner between Blu-Ray and HD-DVD. It was nice when VHS won out over beta - at least the confusion was gone.
By Burningas, Sunday 03 September 2006 01:57
this is the sorta thing we dont want to see!!!!!! THIS SOCULD RESULT IN A WAR WHERE NO PARTY IS A DISTINCT WINNER, THE MARKET WILL BE SHIT IN THIS SITUATION. IT WILL COST MORE THAN JUST HAVING ON FORMAT SUCH AS DVD. MONEY WILL BE SPENT ON ADVERTISING EACH FORMAT. MONEY RIGHT OUTTA UR POKECTS WITH YOU BUY RELATED PRODUCTS! WE WANT A CLEAR WINNER NOT WASHY SHIT LIKE THIS! damn!
By JamesL, Sunday 03 September 2006 09:12
Disagree with both the above posts - a hybrid drive is ideal for the consumer. It's all very well saying there should just be one format...nobody denies the existance of this format war is very annoying. However we are now in the situation where we have TWO formats. If one fails now some consumers will lose. Furthermore both have/will have made good inroads into the market so you are now talking about significant numbers of people losing out. A dual format drive - and in due course players - solves this. Both formats can co-exist and we can cherry pick the best features/performance from each format.
By zebra, Sunday 03 September 2006 10:44
zebra...I'd not worry too much. This story came initially from theregister and was proven a hoax/mis-information by the folks at Pioneer. Please don't attach any kudos to this rubbish.
By JamesL, Sunday 03 September 2006 11:39
>>>> This story came initially from theregister and was proven a hoax/mis-information by the folks at Pioneer <<<< Any links for that? A number of sites have reported this information based on direct reports from Pioneer at IFA.
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