Plextor and copy protections again... *updated*

By Guest, Wed 10 Oct 2001 20:51

But it still copies SafeDisc 2 fine? I mean, what discs use Cactus as protection? Cuz I have never run into one myself! Smilie

By Guest, Wed 10 Oct 2001 21:29

Cactus Data shield is protection for audio CD. It has been said lately that the RIAA is attempting to get cooperation from hardware manufacturers (ie. soundcards) to help fight against copying audio CD! Why not CD-R manufacturers too? Sounds like just the beginning to me! I don't believe this is a coincidence!

By Guest, Wed 10 Oct 2001 21:36

Ehm, nice to hear this, but another question, how do i know which version of the plextor i am using?

By Guest, Wed 10 Oct 2001 21:48

Just a lame action of plextor to do that. time to buy the PX-W2410A TLA#0000 then before its out of roulation or solded out.

By lmao2k, Wed 10 Oct 2001 22:04

Dammit. I just recieved my writer Frown

. Its TLA#0100. It was produced in August. Anyways how many cactus cds are there out there??

By Rubberduck, Wed 10 Oct 2001 22:35

Well, first of all I'm really pissed, since i bought my PX-W2410A last wednesday and guess what it was a TLA # 0100 Frown

Plextor says according to http://www.plextor.be/English/products/pxw241040A.html that the drive support CD-DA. Well it doesn't, cause if it did it would play every audio disc. Why don't plextor make the drive able to play and thereby comply with any of all the colorfull books, red, orange, white you name it Smilie

so it is able to do so. Eg. make it possible to choose which mode the drive should be in like CD-DA(udio), then (maybe make it up to the user to) choose that mode that complies with that book. Well I guess you get the idea. So it is possible to play and extract the music as it is legal in some European countries like Denmark if you own the org. disc! I hope not that we are going to fix our drives like the dvd-drives with mode-chips etc. in the future! Frown

I just hope my plexie will be able to copy anything soon again! Btw. thanks for a great forum!!!

By DrJ, Wed 10 Oct 2001 23:19

Is someone going to ask Plextor for a comment again?

By Guest, Wed 10 Oct 2001 23:26

Is this news reliable? And is there any good proof? Don't believe anything unless there are many people who actually fail to copy such protected discs with TLA#0100 & 0101 and announces the results. By the way, we all have read the review from CDRinfo regarding LITEON 24102B compared to PLEXTORW 2410A, LiteOn is better! By observing on the forum link, and other links, there are't enough proves yet... We will just have to wait and find out!

By dzjee, Wed 10 Oct 2001 23:51

plextor says it does not work together with copy protection firms , it says it aims to make the best cdwriters on the market , but they'd better start making scsi drives again

By Guest, Thu 11 Oct 2001 00:06

I got a TLA#0001 does this thing really have the problem? cry

I know that it copies any safedisc or PS2/PS1 game no problems :9

By Guest, Thu 11 Oct 2001 00:10

I just brought the LiteOn 24102B and guess what. The LiteOn is just as bad, it can write but cannot read safedisc protected CDs - because it doesn't implement ignore read errors/set retry count in hardware like the Plextor does.

By DoMiN8ToR, Thu 11 Oct 2001 00:23

I already mailed Plextor about this before G@M3FR3@K posted this, I'm almost sure there is a logical explantion for this again, like all the other stuff that came up till now. Just like BlackWolf said, please wait before you make your conclusions, we will need to verify this first... It's all rumors for now

By ploegercr, Thu 11 Oct 2001 00:46

OK Guys, The ePlexParty is over -> fuck it! Frown

By Guest, Thu 11 Oct 2001 00:55

If you get the latest firmware for the Liteon it improves the reading ability no end. It's the ulitmate drive at the ultimate price as far as I can see. Ally

By Guest, Thu 11 Oct 2001 02:38

Sorry TH7 but you are wrong about the Lite on. It can read and write safedisk 2 just fine. Reads a safedisk 2 cd in about 10 minutes with CD Mate.

By stvastva, Thu 11 Oct 2001 03:00

That's bullsh*t. Plextor needs to stay a Cdr ,manufacture & not an RIAA police agent - wonder how much they got paid for this compromise - they are gonna die a slow but sure death.

By Mrsash, Thu 11 Oct 2001 03:24

Anyone can tell me where to get the liteon24x firmware, the web site download is broken and I dont wanna get a shock with this firmware update from liteon. I mean if these guys are trying to do this as well. Oh I live in Australia. I ordered liteon LTR-24102 unfortunately the wholesaler does not know LTR-24102(B or I). So should Iget this drive?

By Guest, Thu 11 Oct 2001 03:52

Are we going to ban this product now?

By Guest, Thu 11 Oct 2001 05:05

You guys will beleive anything. This "new" conspiracy theory is just as false as the Plextor 121032 firmware "conspiracy" was. I'm laughing at you guys. How about not banning the product and closing this thread instead.

By Guest, Thu 11 Oct 2001 05:06

Somebody really gets off to starting crap like this!

By Guest, Thu 11 Oct 2001 05:21

I hope you're right slick, because I was set in buying this Plextor as my next burner as I can no longer stand my Yamaha 4416S... too slow. cry

Any reliable source that can verify or debunk this latest news?

By Guest, Thu 11 Oct 2001 09:19

i cant check which version i have, because there is nothing written on the original box. Is there another way to see which version of the plextor i am using? a tool?

By rowy, Thu 11 Oct 2001 10:15

Mrsash You can find firmware also here http://www.cdrinfo.com/firmware/

By Rubberduck, Thu 11 Oct 2001 10:56

Hi Here an update from me after reading searchings with the help from google. Is it possible to copy Cactus Datashield with the help from CDRWin or Nero using the Illegal TOC: Ignore-option? (Is this possible when it comes to audio tracks with # TLA 0100?) If yes, it would be great news!!! Smilie

Cheers Rubberduck

By Ottone, Thu 11 Oct 2001 11:44

I've just e-mailed Plextor Tech Support... waiting for reply....

By Guest, Thu 11 Oct 2001 11:55

fuck plextor. They have done it with the 16/10/40 and now again?

By swede_242, Thu 11 Oct 2001 14:11

It's like they say; You can eat my food, drink my bear, sleep with my wife, but touch my burner and your dead! Wink

// Swede_242

By TiBill, Thu 11 Oct 2001 18:57

plextor rules ?? maybe it's time to open your eyes. plex sucks

By Euphoria, Thu 11 Oct 2001 21:19

Plextor ruled for some time...now it's just another nostalgic memory like the C64 is! Wink

By Rubberduck, Thu 11 Oct 2001 21:36

Hey.. what's your point :7 The C64 nostalgic or dead??? Nor C64, The Amiga, good old pacman or playing cards are dead! Show a little respect, just a little bit! Smilie

Plexie rules they are the only company starting with 2 years of warranty and with onsite service within Europe and some other countries!!! Quality has always been a keyword for Plextor. And when it comes to updates regarding firmware and software, they don't let their customers down like eg. HP puke

I newer got any updates for my old HP8100 even though it had terrible support for other disctypes than plain audio or data cd's. Well, that was just my five cents.

By DisTreSs, Fri 12 Oct 2001 09:03

Amen to that RubberDuck... That stupid 8100 didn't even support 80min media. Had to find a hacked Sony Firmware to get it to write 80min...