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Posted by Wesley Novack
Posted on 12/02/05 20:46
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CD R/RW Writing Performance
 

The specifications of the ASUS DRW-1604P state that the drive is able to write CD-R discs at 32x. Let us find out how the drive really performs in speed and quality.

CD-R Writing perfomance:


First, let us examine the CD-R writing technology used by the ASUS DRW-1604P by burning a data disc in CD-DVD Speed:

We can see that the ASUS DRW-1604P uses Z-CLV (Zone-Constant Linear Velocity) to write CD-R at 32x. This gives an average write speed of 24.92x. Let us compare this to a few other drives;

The Mad Dog MD-16XDVD9 writer uses CAV (Constant Angular Velocity) to write CD-R at 48x. This gives an average speed of 36.38x. The dips in the graph illustrate points at which the drive performs calibration to ensure superior burn quality.

The Memorex F16 DVD writer uses CAV (Constant Angular Velocity) to write CD-R at 48x. This gives an average speed of 37.23x.

As you can see from the above writing graphs, the ASUS DRW-1604P is slower than some of the competitor drives due to the 32x maximum speed limitation and Z-CLV writing technique.

We also wrote a disc with 700Mb of data using Nero Burning ROM software. Writing method used is DAO (Disc At Once), and the disc is set up as a non-multisession disc with 'finalize disc" enabled.

The ASUS DRW-1604P used 4 minutes and 5 seconds to write the disc at 32x. For comparison we present the following table:

 CD-R
Disc
Writing

Supported
Write
Speed

Write
Strategy

Start
Write
Speed

End
Write
 Speed

Average
 Write 
Speed

Write
 Time 
700Mb
CD-Speed

Write
Time
700Mb
Nero

Plextor
PX-712A

48x

CAV

21.28x

48.14x

36.43x

2m:43s

2m:45s

Philips
DVDR1640P

40x

CAV

17.74x

40.60x

29.86x

3m:21s

3m:17s

BenQ
DW1620A

40x

CAV

17.75x

40.61x

29.37x

3m:24s

3m:23s

Pioneer
DVR-A08XLA

32x

Z-CLV
3 zones

16.03x

32.20x

24.94x

4m:00s

4m:15s

Samsung
TS-H522B

40x

P-CAV

20.91x

39.55x

34.27x

2m:47s

2m:49s

Mad Dog
MD-16XDVD9

48x

CAV

21.41x

48.16x

36.38x

2m:56s

2m:58s

Philips
ED16DVDR

48x

CAV

18.98x

42.88x

32.47x

3m:01s

3m:03s

Memorex
F16

48x

CAV

21.74x

49.42x

37.23x

2m:37s

3m:11s

AOpen
DUW1608/ARR

48x

CAV

22.07x

49.66x

37.69x

2m:44s

2m:47s

LG
GSA-4163B

40x

Z-CLV
4 zones

16.01x

40.48x

31.76x

3m:15s

3m:15s

Lite-On
SOHW-1653S

48x

CAV

21.90x

49.55x

37.49x

2m:38s

2m:44s

Asus
DRW-1604P

32x

Z-CLV
3 zones

16.03x

32.66x

24.92x

3m:58s

4m:05s

Here we can see that the ASUS DRW-1604P is slower at CD-R writing compared to most of the competing drives on the market. But what about the CD-R write quality?  We'll find out now!

CD-R Write Quality:


Here we will test with a variety of different CD-R discs to measure speed and write quality. To really measure the write speed, we used the 'create data CD" function in Nero CD-DVD Speed. The discs were written at the maximum speed that the drive supports. For the quality test we used K-Probe 2, which is a tool developed by a Lite-On Employee. Kprobe runs on Windows and functions with drives made by Lite-On. Please note that different drives as well as different reading speeds may affect the results obtained when scanning the discs. Here we used a Lite-On LTR-32123S drive with firmware XS0Z and scanned the discs at 40X speed (Actual speed is approximately 43X CAV on 80 minute CD-Rs).

A written CD-R disc will always have some C1 errors; C1 errors are easily corrected by the drives' error correction capabilities. The next level of errors is C2. C2 errors can also be corrected by most drives' error correction capabilities, but they are not wanted on a good quality disc. A good disc should not contain any C2 errors, and preferably have an average C1 error amount of below 2.0 for the best discs, or at least below a 10.0 C1 average for good quality discs. After C2 errors there are only un-correctable errors that will make a disc unusable.

We now present you with our results:


Brand:

Verbatim Data Life Plus - (Thanks to Verbatim USA for providing)

Manufacturer:

Mitsubishi Chemicals Corporation

Code:

97m34s23f

Disc Type:

CD-R

Recording Layer:

Dye Type 3: Long Strategy (Cyanine or AZO)

Capacity:

79:59.73 (703MB)

Certified Speed:

52x

Write Speed:

32x

Write Time:

3m:58s

C1 Average/Sec:

12.74

C2 Average/Sec:

0.0

These results are not the best that we have seen with these discs. The Average C1 value is acceptable and there are no C2 errors, which is good.


 

Brand:

Office Depot

Manufacturer:

Moser Baer India

Code:

97m17s06f

Disc Type:

CD-R

Recording Layer:

Dye Type 6: Short Strategy (Phthalocyanine)

Capacity:

79:59.74 (703MB)

Certified Speed:

52x

Write Speed:

32x

Write Time:

3m:59s

C1 Average/Sec:

6.89

C2 Average/Sec:

0.0

The C1 error average looks good in this test. We can consider these good discs.


 

Brand:

Memorex - (Thanks to Memorex for providing this media)

Manufacturer:

CMC Magnetics

Code:

97m26s66f

Disc Type:

CD-R

Recording Layer:

Dye Type 6: Short Strategy (Phthalocyanine)

Capacity:

79:59.71 (703MB)

Certified Speed:

40x

Write Speed:

32x

Write Time:

3m:58s

C1 Average/Sec:

46.91

C2 Average/Sec:

0.0

Results here are not so good on this "Cool Colors CD-R". The C1 levels are way too high on the last third of the disc, but at least there are no C2 errors. Some writers have trouble with these discs. 


 

Brand:

Imation

Manufacturer:

CMC Magnetics

Code:

97m26s66f

Disc Type:

CD-R

Recording Layer:

Dye Type 6: Short Strategy (Phthalocyanine)

Capacity:

79:59.71 (703MB)

Certified Speed:

40x

Write Speed:

32x

Write Time:

3m:58s

C1 Average/Sec:

12.52

C2 Average/Sec:

0.0

We also tested with an Imation branded CMC CD-R disc. We do not like the high C1 error spiking reported near the end of the graph. ASUS needs to improve the support on CMC CD-Rs.


 

Brand:

Harmony

Manufacturer:

Digital Storage Technology Co., Ltd.

Code:

97m27s06f

Disc Type:

CD-R

Recording Layer:

Dye Type 6: Short Strategy (Phthalocyanine)

Capacity:

79:59.73 (703MB)

Certified Speed:

24x

Write Speed:

32x

Write Time:

6m:14s

C1 Average/Sec:

2.43

C2 Average/Sec:

0.0

These 24x certified discs were written at 32x. As you can see from the long Write time, the drive had to slow down at some points during the burn to preserve quality.  The results are good and ASUS did a great job supporting these discs.


 

Brand:

GQ

Manufacturer:

Lead Data Inc.

Code:

97m26s54f

Disc Type:

CD-R

Recording Layer:

Dye Type 4: Long Strategy (Cyanine or AZO)

Capacity:

79:59.74 (703MB)

Certified Speed:

52x

Write Speed:

32x

Write Time:

3m:58s

C1 Average/Sec:

10.38

C2 Average/Sec:

0.0

This is a pretty good result for these low quality discs. The Average C1 error value is low and there are no C2 errors.


 

Brand:

GQ

Manufacturer:

Lead Data Inc. with SONY ATIP (SONY)

Code:

97m24s16f

Disc Type:

CD-R

Recording Layer:

Dye Type 6: Short Strategy (Phthalocyanine)

Capacity:

79:59.74 (703MB)

Certified Speed:

52x

Write Speed:

32x

Write Time:

3m:58s

C1 Average/Sec:

36.24

C2 Average/Sec:

0.0

These results are not so hot. We have seen much better quality discs produced when other drives write to these discs.


 

Brand:

FujiFilm - (Thanks to FujiFilm USA for providing)

Manufacturer:

Prodisc Technology Inc.

Code:

97m32s19f

Disc Type:

CD-R

Recording Layer:

Dye Type 9: Short Strategy (Phthalocyanine)

Capacity:

79:59.73 (703MB)

Certified Speed:

32x

Write Speed:

32x

Write Time:

4m:00s

C1 Average/Sec:

4.10

C2 Average/Sec:

0.0

Good results with a 4.10 value for the C1 error average.


 

Brand:

RiDATA

Manufacturer:

RiTEK Corporation

Code:

97m15s17f

Disc Type:

CD-R

Recording Layer:

Dye Type 7: Short Strategy (Phthalocyanine)

Capacity:

79:59.70 (703MB)

Certified Speed:

48x

Write Speed:

32x

Write Time:

4m:02s

C1 Average/Sec:

18.00

C2 Average/Sec:

0.0

These results are questionable. We've seen better results with these discs on other writers.

 Writing data CD-RW discs:


The specifications of the ASUS DRW-1604P state that the drive is able to write CD-RW discs at 24x. Let us find out how the drive really performs in speed and quality. First, let us examine the CD-RW writing technique used by the Asus.

 

The drive writes CD-RW Ultra Speed discs at 24x using Z-CLV (Zone-Constant Linear Velocity). Three zones are used to produce an average speed of 22.46x. Let's compare this to some other drives.

 

The Mad Dog MD-16XDVD9 uses only 2 zones with its Z-CLV technique. This gives an average speed of 23.68x.

 

The Plextor PX-708A uses P-CAV (Partial-Constant Angular Velocity) to achieve a write speed of 24x. The Average speed is 23.77x.

We also wrote a disc with 650Mb of data using Nero Burning ROM software. Writing method used is DAO (Disc At Once), and the disc is set up as a non-multisession disc with 'finalize disc" enabled.

For a better overview we present the following comparison table:

CD-RW
Disc
Writing

Supported
Write
Speed

Write
Strategy

Start
Write
Speed

End
Write
 Speed

Average
 Write 
Speed

Write
 Time 
CD-Speed 80min

Write
Time
Nero
74min

Plextor
PX-712A

24x

P-CAV

21.12x

24.00x

23.89x

3m:40s

3m:34s

Philips
DVDR1640P

24x

P-CAV

17.74x

25.20x

23.13x

3m:56s

3m:41s

BenQ
DW1620A

24x

P-CAV

17.73x

24.54x

23.14x

3m:54s

3m:40s

Pioneer
DVR-A08XLA

24x

Z-CLV
3 zones

16.00x

24.06x

22.47x

4m:04s

4m:00s

Samsung
TS-H552B

32x

P-CAV

20.94x

31.85x

30.21x

3m:10s

 -

Mad Dog
MD-16XDVD9

24x

Z-CLV
2 zones

20.08x

24.01x

23.68x

3m:52s*

3m:53s

Philips
ED16DVDR

24x

Z-CLV
2 Zones

16.04x

24.07x

22.63x

4m:10s

 -

AOpen
DUW1608/ARR

24x

Z-CLV
3 Zones

16.01x

24.03x

22.06x

4m:17s

 -

LG
GSA-4163B

24x

Z-CLV
2 Zones

16.01x

23.80x

23.35x

3m:54s

 -

Lite-On
SOHW-1653S

24x

Z-CLV
2 Zones

15.98x

23.97x

22.57x

4m:19s

3m:55s

ASUS
DRW-1604P

24x

Z-CLV
3 Zones

15.96x

24.00x

22.46x

4m:07s

3m:50s

*74min CD-RW used.

The ASUS DRW-1604P has about average CD-RW writing speed compared to the competition. It can't compete with the Samsung TS-H552B, which can write CD-RW at 32x. Now we will examine the CD-RW writing quality.

Brand:

Verbatim - (Thanks to Verbatim USA for providing)

Manufacturer:

Mitsubishi Chemicals Corporation

Code:

97m34s25f

Disc Type:

CD-RW

Recording Layer:

Phase Change

Capacity:

74:43.00 (656MB)

Certified Speed:

32x

Write Speed:

24x

Write Time:

3m:45s

C1 Average/Sec:

888.80

C2 Average/Sec:

0.0

The C1 errors are very high, but at least there are no C2 errors and the disc is fully readable.  We've seen better results with these discs on other drives.


Brand:

Memorex - (Thanks to Memorex USA for providing)

Manufacturer:

Infodisc

Code:

97m25s31f

Disc Type:

CD-RW

Recording Layer:

Phase Change

Capacity:

79:59.73 (703MB)

Certified Speed:

24x

Write Speed:

24x

Write Time:

3m:45s

C1 Average/Sec:

567.90

C2 Average/Sec:

0.13

Results here are not good. There are some very high C1 errors and the dreaded C2 errors also make an appearance. This could be due to either poor quality discs or the ASUS writing strategy.




Brand:

Verbatim - (Thanks to Verbatim USA for providing)

Manufacturer:

Mitsubishi Chemicals Corporation

Code:

97m34s23f

Disc Type:

CD-RW

Recording Layer:

Phase Change

Capacity:

74:43.00 (656MB)

Certified Speed:

4-12x

Write Speed:

10x

Write Time:

8m:09s

C1 Average/Sec:

32.25

C2 Average/Sec:

0.0

Results here are just fine for a CD-RW disc. No C2 errors and the disc is fully readable on the Lite-On drive.



Brand:

Memorex - (Thanks to Memorex USA for providing)

Manufacturer:

Infodisc

Code:

97m25s30f

Disc Type:

CD-RW

Recording Layer:

Phase Change

Capacity:

79:59.73 (703MB)

Certified Speed:

4-12x

Write Speed:

10x

Write Time:

8m:28s

C1 Average/Sec:

18.58

C2 Average/Sec:

0.0

The ASUS DRW-1604P did fine with these discs. This is an ok result for CD-RW media.


CD-R/RW performance Summary:
The CD-R writing performance is ok, but it could use some improvements with CMC and Ritek CD-Rs. CD-RW performance is also ok except for the Infodisc made 24x CD-RW disc.

But after all, it's a DVD-Writer, so head on to next page and read about DVD-Writing performance and DVD media compatibility…

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Why do none of the quality tests in CDFreaks reviews include jitter? Jitter is part of the ECMA specifications for DVD's, and jitter levels of above 9% are out of spec.
Sorry, but if it is indeed a Pioneer 108 clone, what is the purpose of the test... to show the firmware quality perhaps. :g
One of the reasons is that we do not have calibrated equipment for testing jitter.

The jitter tests in plextools with plextor drives and in CD-Speed with BenQ drives is not accurate enough. If we should believe benq reported jitter, 90% of the discs would be out of specs exceeding 9% jitter.
[edited by OC-Freak on 15.02.2005 12:02]
Not the fastest drive for DVD, but great writing-quality, like I expect from Pioneer-clones.

I hpe you present soon a review of the Asus 1608 or Pioneer 109 :B
This is Cdfreaks first review on a Pioneer 108 based drive.
We previously reviewed the Pioneer [b]A08XLA[/b], which can be considered a different drive because it uses different hardware and different firmware.
Cdfreaks tries to review as many drives as possible. ;)
That´s nice, Wes :)

Hope some new reviews are on the way :X
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