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Posted by Tor Magne
Posted on 07/09/05 23:46
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DVD Writing performance
 

The specifications of this drive tell us that it should write DVD+R discs at 16x and DVD-R discs at 16X speed. In this part we will measure the write time for various types of DVD+/-R(W) discs. We do also focus on write quality and media compatibility.

DVD-Writing performance:


We will start with taking a look at the writing strategy used and compare it to other drives;

 

The BenQ DW1640 uses CAV (Constant Angular Velocity) to write at 16x speed. This gives an average speed of 11.53x and a total writing time of 5m:44s. Let us also take a look at writing a DVD-R disc:

As we could see it also uses CAV (Constant Angular Velocity) to write DVD-R at 16x. This gives an average speed of about 11.41x and a writing time of 6 minutes and 06 seconds.

 

The BenQ DW1620 uses CAV (Constant Angular Velocity) to write at 16x. This gives an average writing speed of 11.51x and the lowest time we have obtained are 5 minutes and 47 seconds. The drive uses a bit longer time than ideally since it uses running OPC technology when writing (shown as small dips in the transfer curve above).

 

The LG GSA-5163D uses P-CAV (Partial-Constant Angular Velocity) to write at 16x. The average speed for the LG GSA-5163D is 12.82x and total writing time is 5 minutes and 19 seconds. This is the fastest result we have got with all tested writers so far, and is thus the record to beat for other drives.

Let us see how long of a time it needs to create a disc with Nero. We used Nero Burning Rom to set up a new UDF/ISO compilation containing 4483Mb of data, and started the write process. We used the Disc-At-Once write method.


DVD+R


DVD-R

The DVD+R disc was finished in 6 minutes and 1 second, while the DVD-R disc was finished in 6 minutes and 11 seconds.

16x
DVDR
Disc
Writing

Write
Strategy

Supported
Write
Speed

Start
Write
Speed

End
Write
 Speed

Average
 Write 
Speed

Write
 Time 
CD-Speed
4.38Gb

Write Time
Nero
4.38Gb

NEC
ND-3500AG

CAV

16x +R
16x -R

6.75x
6.67x

15.96x
16.05x

11.70x
11.66x

6m:04s
6m:04s

6m:08s
6m:09s

BenQ
DW1620A

CAV

16x +R
16x -R

5.37x
6.68x

16.00x
15.90x

11.51x
11.55x

5m:47s
5m:55s

5m:50s
6m:02s

Samsung
TS-H552B

CAV
P-CAV

16x +R
12x -R

6.74x
5.18x

12.09x
12.09x

12.03x
9.21x

5m:58s
7m:10s

6m:33s
7m:28s

Mad Dog
MD-16XDVD9

CAV

16x +R
16x -R

6.64x
6.68x

15.96x
16.05x

11.69x
11.65x

6m:05s
6m:13s

6m:12s
6m:05s

Memorex
F16

CAV
Z-CLV

16x +R
8x -R

6.65x
4.01x

15.97x
8.12x

11.95x
7.10x

5m:59s
9m:29s

5m:56s
9m:34s

Aopen
DUW1608/ARR

CAV
Z-CLV

16x +R
8x -R

6.69x
4.01x

15.90x
8.04x

11.90x
7.31x

6m:51s
9m:08s

6m:49s
9m:17s 

LG
GSA-4163B

P-CAV

16x +R
16x -R

7.30x
7.31x

16.01x
16.01x

12.87x
12.90x

5m:34s
5m:20s

5m:35s
5m:22s 

LG
GSA-5163D

P-CAV

16x +R
16x -R

7.30x
7.31x

15.94x
15.95x

12.75x
12.82x

5m:30s
5m:19s

5m:32s
5m:25s 

Lite-On
SOHW-1673S

CAV

16x +R
16x -R

6.66x
6.68x

15.95x
15.99x

11.92x
11.97x

5m:54s
6m:10s

6m:02s
6m:17s

Pioneer
DVR-109D

CAV

16x +R
16x -R

6.27x
6.33x

15.95x
11.91x

11.64x
11.60x

5m:51s
5m:52s

5m:43s
5m:59s

BenQ
DW1625

CAV
P-CAV

16x +R
8x -R

5.61x
6.68x

16.06x
7.99x

11.61x
7.74x

5m:56s
8m:15s

6m:08s
8m:21s

NEC
ND-3540A

CAV
CAV

16x +R
16x -R

6.70x
6.69x

16.06x
16.07x

11.81x
11.80x

5m:58s
5m:52s

6m:17s
6m:05s

BenQ
DW1640

CAV
CAV

16x +R
16x -R

5.70x
5.32x

15.95x
15.99x

11.53x
11.41x

5m:44s
6m:06s

6m:01s
6m:11s

The BenQ DW1640 is slightly faster than average at 16x DVD+R, but is slightly slower at DVD-R 16x writing due to longer OPC procedure. We have big expectations for the writing quality of this drive, so let's see if it's as good as expected.

Write quality:


You should first notice that this is not a scientific and professional way to test the discs. But according to our testing done in recent months, we would conclude that there is a clear link between the quality reported when scanning the disc and the playability of the disc in different devices. Also notice that different drives report different amounts of errors. K-Probe was designed to work with Lite-On DVD-Writers. So we recommend using a DVD-Writer from Lite-On, in this test we use a Lite-On SOHW-1693S DVD-Writer, as already said; remember that scans done with a Lite-On DVD-ROM or Lite-On combo drive can't be compared with the results obtained with a Lite-On DVD-Writer. Also remember that different PI/PO ECC sum settings along with different reading speeds in K-Probe will affect the result, we use these settings;  PI (Parity Inner) set to summarize 8 ECC blocks, PIF (Parity Inner Failures) set to summarize 1 ECC block, reading speed: 4X CLV (Constant Linear Velocity). Setting the PI sum to 8 and the PIF sum to 1 will give a result that we may compare to the standards for DVD+R/RW and DVD-R/RW.

But what is a good scan? That is a discussion that we don't think will end soon, as different drives report different amount of errors, some players is more picky about media than others, and so on. But as a comparison we present you with a scan from two pressed DVD discs:


This scan shows the results from a pressed DVD-ROM disc (Colin McRae Rally 2005).

 

This scan shows the result from a pressed DVD-Video disk (Final Destination). Notice the error jump when shifting to the second layer (the error level actually drops from the end of the first layer to the beginning of the second layer).

If you read below you will see that both the pressed DVD-discs are well within the standards.

Download the ECMA 267 Standard for DVD-ROM, the ECMA 337 Standard for DVD+R/RW and the ECMA 338 Standard for DVD-R/RW at http://www.ecma-international.org if you want to look at the standards for yourself. Here is some data from the ECMA standards (same for DVD-ROM, DVD-R/RW and DVD+R/RW):

Random errors:

A row of an ECC Block that has at least 1 byte in error constitutes a PI error. In any 8
consecutive ECC Blocks the total number of PI errors before correction shall not exceed 280.

Here we see what a PI error is defined as a row in an ECC block having 1 byte or more containing errors. And that the sum of PI errors in 8 ECC blocks after each other should not exceed 280 PI errors.

But what is a row and what is an ECC block? Again we refer to the ECMA standards. We do not copy and paste everything but if interested look in the ECMA standards. A row is 182 bytes long where the last 10 bytes contain PI (Parity Inner) information. An ECC block is 208 rows long where the last 16 rows contain the PO (Parity Outer) information. This gives us a maximum possible PI error amount of 208 errors per block and for 8 blocks after each other this sum is of course 8 times higher giving a maximum possible amount of 1664 PIE-8 errors. In practical use a disc with 1664 PIE-8 errors is unreadable.

According to our tests the specified max PI-8 sum of 280 for good discs seems to be a good guideline, as some readers have problems reading discs when the PI-8 errors is over 300 and most players starts to have problems when the PI-8 error level reaches 600 or more.

But what are the PIF errors that K-Probe reports? They are Parity Inner Failures, meaning errors left after PI correction. Only the ECMA 337 standard describes the Parity Inner Failures. So how is a Parity Inner Failure defined? Here are what ECMA 337 states:

'If a row of an ECC Block as defined in 13.3 contains more than 5 erroneous bytes, the row is said to be 'PI-uncorrectable"."

In theory an ECC block may in the worst case have 208 PIF since every ECC block is 208 rows long. But the ECMA 337 standard goes further and specifies the max amount of accepted PI Failures (uncorrectable errors) allowed on a good disc:

'- In any ECC Block the number of PI-uncorrectable rows should not exceed 4."  

This means that when the PIF sum is set to 1 the maximum error value should not exceed 4. The theoretical maximum value for PIF is 208 errors.

But what makes a disc unreadable? A POF (Parity Outer Failure) error will make the disc unreadable, but K-Probe does not display the POF's.

Notice that there are other aspects such as disc reflectivity, jitter, tracking errors and so on that also will affect the readability of a DVD disc - but for this we do not have measuring equipment available.

And another note is that we have scanned the discs at 4X CLV speed, by lowering the speed to 2X(DVD-R/RW)/2.4X(DVD+R/RW) or 1X the amount of reported errors may drop on some discs. We scanned at 4X CLV due to lower speeds taking to much time.

To see if there is a connection between the reported amount of errors and readability of the discs we also include the reading curve from a NEC ND-3540A DVD-Writer. A small speed reduction near the end is still accepted on good discs, but serious reading problems or reading failures is a bad sign.

Easier explanation on how to read the test results.


Maybe this got too technical, and you are wondering what to look for in KProbe reports?

Use this as a guideline for good discs:

PI(Parity Inner): No larger areas on the disc should exceed 280 PI-8 errors, do not worry too much about high single spikes that exceed 280.
PIF(Parity Inner Failures): No larger areas on the disc should exceed 4 PIF-1 errors, do not worry too much about high single spikes that exceed 4.

And as always; lower is better ;)

And look at the reading curve; does it look clean with no dips? Then it should be good, a small slowdown near the end is acceptable.

DVD+R media compatibility and write quality:



Brand:

BenQ - thanks to Daxon for providing it.

Manufacturer:

Daxon

Code:

DAXON.AZ3

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

16x

Write Speed:

16x

Write Time:

5m:44s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

1.13

PI-8 uncorrectable errors(PO) Avg/Sec:

0.09

A few PIE/PIF spikes near the end but else a very good result with this media, it would have been strange if there were problems, after all the media is BenQ branded.




Brand:

Verbatim - thanks to Verbatim UK for providing this media.

Manufacturer:

CMC Magnetics with Mitsubishi technology

Code:

MCC004

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

16x

Write Speed:

16x

Write Time:

5m:44s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

0.53

PI-8 uncorrectable errors(PO) Avg/Sec:

0.07

Again some spikes near the end, but not too bad and the reading curve shows no problems.




Brand:

ePro

Manufacturer:

Prodisc

Code:

Prodisc.R04

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

16x

Write Speed:

16x

Write Time:

5m:44s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

0.36

PI-8 uncorrectable errors(PO) Avg/Sec:

0.06

Again some spikes near the end, but beside that an excellent result.




Brand:

That's Write - thanks to That's Write for providing it.

Manufacturer:

CMC Magnetics

Code:

CMC.MAG.M01

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

16x

Write Speed:

4x (16x selectable, but OPC control forced it to write at 4x)

Write Time:

15m:24s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

16.37

PI-8 uncorrectable errors(PO) Avg/Sec:

0.07

The OPC control of the drive limited the writing speed to 4x; we tried two discs from different spindles - but the result were the same. But otherwise the result is acceptable.



Brand:

FreeSpace

Manufacturer:

Opto Disc

Code:

Optodisc.R16

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

16x

Write Speed:

4x (16x selectable, but OPC control forced it to write at 4x)

Write Time:

15m:27s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

8.73

PI-8 uncorrectable errors(PO) Avg/Sec:

0.11

This media wrote at 4x only, and as we could see there are some quality problems near the end, this is due to very low disc quality. 



Brand:

Traxdata - thanks to Conrexx for providing it.

Manufacturer:

Ritek

Code:

RITEK.P16

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

16x

Write Speed:

12x (16x selectable, but OPC forced it to write at 12x)

Write Time:

6m:21s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

0.88

PI-8 uncorrectable errors(PO) Avg/Sec:

0.05

An excellent result, but it wrote the disc at 12x only.




Brand:

That's Write

Manufacturer:

Philips/CMC Magnetics

Code:

Philips.C16 (Revision 001)

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

16x

Write Speed:

16x

Write Time:

5m:51s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

1.48

PI-8 uncorrectable errors(PO) Avg/Sec:

0.25

Slightly worse at the end, but not enough to cause any readback problems.




Brand:

TDK

Manufacturer:

TDK / CMC Magnetics

Code:

TDK 003

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

16x

Write Speed:

12x

Write Time:

6m:21s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

0.59

PI-8 uncorrectable errors(PO) Avg/Sec:

0.06

Another good result, but we would like to see 16x writing speed with this media.




Brand:

RiData - thanks to RiData for providing it.

Manufacturer:

Ritek

Code:

RITEK R03 (Revision 001)

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

8x

Write Speed:

8x

Write Time:

8m:15s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

9.59

PI-8 uncorrectable errors(PO) Avg/Sec:

0.03

No problems at all.



Brand:

Emgeton - thanks to Bell technology for providing this media

Manufacturer:

Infomedia

Code:

Infome.R20

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

8x

Write Speed:

8x

Write Time:

8m:20s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

2.17

PI-8 uncorrectable errors(PO) Avg/Sec:

0.06

No problems with this rather rare media either.


 

Brand:

Datawrite titanium - thanks to e-net for providing it.

Manufacturer:

Prodisc

Code:

PRODISC.R03

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

8x

Write Speed:

8x

Write Time:

8m:19s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

0.66

PI-8 uncorrectable errors(PO) Avg/Sec:

0.02

The drive performed very well with the Prodisc media and we have no problems recommending this media.



Brand:

Miflop extreme - thanks to Miflop media for providing it.

Manufacturer:

Taiyo Yuden

Code:

YUDEN000T02

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

8x

Write Speed:

8x

Write Time:

8m:06s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

0.50

PI-8 uncorrectable errors(PO) Avg/Sec:

0.01

And Taiyo Yuden works excellent as expected.


 

Brand:

That's Write - thanks to That's Write for providing it

Manufacturer:

Opto Disc

Code:

OPTODISC.OR8

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

8x

Write Speed:

2.4x

Write Time:

25m:01s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

194.50

PI-8 uncorrectable errors(PO) Avg/Sec:

0.22

Well, Opto disc manufactures low quality media, but other writers work much better with this media. It writes at 2.4x and the quality is horrible, BenQ should look into this issue.


 

Brand:

Prodye Video

Manufacturer:

Unknown

Code:

Plasmon1C01

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

8x

Write Speed:

8x

Write Time:

8m:13s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

2.00

PI-8 uncorrectable errors(PO) Avg/Sec:

0.14

No problems with this rather rare media either.



Brand:

ProDVD

Manufacturer:

UME Disc - Hong Kong.

Code:

AML 002

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

8x

Write Speed:

8x

Write Time:

8m:35s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

2.46

PI-8 uncorrectable errors(PO) Avg/Sec:

0.05

Low quality media, and as we could see the result is not good at the end of the disc.




Brand:

Commodore

Manufacturer:

Interaxia AG

Code:

VDSPMSAB002

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

8x

Write Speed:

8x

Write Time:

8m:27s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

2.68

PI-8 uncorrectable errors(PO) Avg/Sec:

0.02

Another very low quality media type and it fails to read back. Stay away from this media type.

Head on to next page and read about DVD-R compatibility and write quality as well as DVD+/-RW writing quality and speed...

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Reactions on this item
at usual, wonderful review, thanks
Thanx OC for review.
Damn our BENQ distributor is not selling any DVD writers here:r
Very happy to read your review. You verify the reviews given by cdrlab and cdrinfo that this is an exceptional burner. I am happy to say that I bought one last week from newegg for $40. Was going to buy another NEC (I love my 3500), but changed my mind after reading their reviews. So far, a very good performer and Qsuite is a surprise bonus.
Regarding the overburning capabilities of this drive I could find only CD overburning in this review, but no mention on DVD-R/+R.
@Juhuslik... BenQ Distributors not selling this drive here too... i had to import it !!!!:c
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