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LG GGC-H20L detail information

Posted by Doug Schwantes
Posted on 18/02/08 00:26
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Manufacturer LG
Product LG GGC-H20L
Description 6x Blu-ray and HD DVD reader
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DVD+R/RW writing performance
 

Page 5 DVD+R/RW writing performance

 

The specifications of this drive tell us that it should write DVD±R at 8X, DVD+RW at 8x, and DVD-RW at 6x. In this next section we will measure the write time for various types of DVD+R/RW and DVD-R/RW discs. We will also focus on write quality and media compatibility.

DVD+R/RW writing performance:


Let us see how long it takes the LG GGC-H20L to create an 16X disc. We used Nero Burning Rom to set up a new UDF/ISO compilation containing 4480MB (4.36GB) of data, and started the write process. We used the Disc-At-Once write method.


DVD+R


DVD-R

Write DVD data discs

DVD+R

DVD-R

LG
GGC-H20L

5m:46s
(16x speed)

5m:38s
(16x speed)

 

Now let us see how the writing quality is.

Write quality:


Disc Quality Scanning - PI/PO:

DVDs use an error detection and correction system (ECC) which is usually transparent to the end-user, but we can get an idea of the "quality" of a disc by  performing Disc Quality Scanning, which shows how many errors the drive is detecting and correcting behind the scenes.

There are two layers or stages of error detection and correction on all DVD media; these are called Parity Inner (PI) and Parity Outer (PO). Data is arranged in ECC blocks containing rows and columns of user data with additional columns of PI error correction and rows of PO error correction.

An ECC block contains 32 kByte of user data with some added control data, scrambled and arranged in 192 rows and 172 columns with an additional 10 columns of PI error correction and 16 rows of PO error correction.

The Parity Inner stage is performed first, and up to 5 bytes in a row can be corrected. Any row with one or more errors is counted as a Parity Inner Error (PIE). Any row with more than 5 errors is considered uncorrectable and is counted as a Parity Inner Failure (PIF).

The Parity Outer stage is performed next and will detect and attempt to correct any errors that are still left after the PI stage. Any column that has errors is counted as a Parity Outer Error (POE), and any column that has uncorrectable errors is counted as a Parity Outer Failure (POF). If a POF occurs the drive can sometimes re-read the problematic spot and correct the problem; this happens only during normal reading and not during scanning, however.

Disc Quality scanning is influenced by the drive performing the test, and that's why different drives report different results and even the same drive will report (slightly) different results when scanning the same disc again. Please note that PI/PO and Jitter scans only test some aspects of disc quality and that other important aspects are not revealed.

But what is a good scan? That is a discussion that we don’t think will end soon, as different drives report different amount of errors, some players are more picky about media than others, and so on. But as a comparison we present you with scans from two pressed DVD discs:

This scan above shows the results from a pressed, Single Layer DVD-Video disc (Flicka).

This above scan shows the result from a pressed Double Layer DVD-Video disc (MI3).

The Lite-On DVD burners used in this review report errors as follows.

  • PIE per 8 ECC blocks (rows with 1 or more bytes in error)
  • PIF per 1 ECC block (rows with 6 or more bytes in error)

We want to see as low error numbers as possible.
PIE per 8 ECC blocks should be no higher than 280.
PIF per 1 ECC block should be no higher than 4.

Both the pressed DVD-discs above are well within the standards.

If you want to look at the standards for yourself, download the ECMA 267 Standard for DVD-ROM, the ECMA 337 Standard for DVD+R/RW and the ECMA 338 Standard for DVD-R/RW at http://www.ecma-international.org.

Notice that there are other aspects such as disc reflectivity, tracking errors and so on that also will affect the readability of a DVD disc – but for this we do not have measuring equipment available.

Also, another note is that we have scanned the discs at 4X speed, by lowering the speed to 2X (DVD-R/RW)/2.4X (DVD+R/RW) or 1X the amount of reported errors may drop on some discs. We scanned at 4X CLV due to lower speeds taking too much time.

To see if there is a connection between the reported amount of errors and readability of the discs we also include the reading curve from a BenQ DW1655 DVD-Writer which by default is able to read DVD±R media at 16x speed. A small speed reduction near the end is still accepted on good discs, but serious reading problems or reading failures is a bad sign.

Here is an easier explanation on how to read the test results

Maybe this got too technical, and you are wondering what to look for in your Nero DiscSpeed Quality Scans?

Use this as a guideline for good discs:

  • PI (Parity Inner): No larger areas on the disc should exceed 280 PI-8 errors, do not worry too much about high single spikes that exceed 280.
  • PIF (Parity Inner Failures): No larger areas on the disc should exceed 4 PIF-1 errors, do not worry too much about high single spikes that exceed 4.

And as always: the lower is better. image101


DVD+R media compatibility and write quality 

In these tests we will be using a Lite-On DH20A3P drive along with Nero CD-DVD Speed to measure the disc quality. We will provide you with an image of the Quality Scan, Transfer Rate Test (TRT), and a Table which gives the pertinent details for the burn and quality scan to include the number of samples taken in the Quality Scan. We will also be using the BenQ DW1655 along with Nero CD-DVD Speed for our read-back tests.


Brand:

Verbatim – Thanks to Verbatim USA for providing this media

Manufacturer:

Mitsubishi Chemical Corp.

Code:

MCC 004

Made in:

Taiwan

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4481MB

Certified Speed:

16x

Write Speed:

16x

Write Time:

5m:43s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

1.37

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.00

Jitter Average:

9.45%

Number of Samples:

134863

Disc quality is Excellent and the Transfer Rate Test has a smooth curve.



Brand:

Taiyo Yuden – Thanks to Rima.com for providing this media

Manufacturer:

Taiyo Yuden

Code:

YUDEN000 T03

Made in:

Japan

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4481MB

Certified Speed:

16x

Write Speed:

16x

Write Time:

5m:57s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

4.20

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.03

Jitter Average:

9.93%

Number of Samples:

134983

The media burns with Good results and the Transfer Rate Test has a smooth curve.



Brand:

Memorex – Thanks to Memorex USA for sending us this media

Manufacturer:

CMC Magnetics Corp.

Code:

CMC MAG M01

Made in:

Taiwan

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4481MB

Certified Speed:

16x

Write Speed:

16x

Write Time:

5m:41s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

3.88

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.03

Jitter Average:

12.45%

Number of Samples:

134983

The media burns with Good results and the Transfer Rate Test has a smooth curve.


 Brand:

Memorex – Thanks to Memorex USA for sending us this media

Manufacturer:

Ricoh

Code:

RICOHJPN R03 004 (04)

Made in:

Taiwan

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4481MB

Certified Speed:

16x

Write Speed:

12x

Write Time:

6m:07s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

1.89

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.00

Jitter Average:

10.68%

Number of Samples:

134904

The media burns with excellent results and the Transfer Rate Test has a smooth curve.

Editors Note: The fastest possible burn speed for this media is 12x.


Brand:

Sony

Manufacturer:

Sony Recording Media Co

Code:

SONYD21

Made in:

Taiwan

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4481MB

Certified Speed:

16x

Write Speed:

16x

Write Time:

5m:45s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

1.51

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.00

Jitter Average:

8.74%

Number of Samples:

134984

The media burns with excellent results and the Transfer Rate Test has a smooth curve.


Brand:

Taiyo Yuden – Thanks to Rima.com for providing this media

Manufacturer:

Taiyo Yuden

Code:

YUDEN000 T02

Made in:

Japan

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4481MB

Certified Speed:

8x

Write Speed:

8x

Write Time:

8m:05s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

0.61

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.00

Jitter Average:

9.60%

Number of Samples:

134986

The media burns with excellent results and the Transfer Rate Test has a smooth curve.


 Brand:

Optodisc

Manufacturer:

Optodisc

Code:

OPTODISC R16 000 (00)

Made in:

Taiwan

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4481MB

Certified Speed:

16x

Write Speed:

16x

Write Time:

5m:41s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

1.20

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.00

Jitter Average:

9.77%

Number of Samples:

134983

The media burns with excellent results and the Transfer Rate Test has a smooth curve.


 Brand:

Verbatim – Thanks to Verbatim USA for providing the media.

Manufacturer:

Verbatim

Code:

MCC 003

Made in:

Taiwan

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4481MB

Certified Speed:

8x

Write Speed:

8x

Write Time:

8m:12s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

0.59

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.00

Jitter Average:

9.29%

Number of Samples:

134986

The media burned with excellent results and the Transfer Rate test has a smooth curve.

DVD+ReWritable media:


The LG GGC-H20L supports writing to DVD+RW discs at maximum 8X speed.


Brand:

Ritek – Thanks to Ritek USA for sending us the media.

Manufacturer:

Ricoh

Code:

RICOHJPN W21 001 (01)

Made in:

Taiwan

Disc Type:

DVD+RW

Capacity:

4481MB

Certified Speed:

8x

Write Speed:

8x

Write Time:

7m:19s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

5.89

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.02

Jitter Average:

8.41%

Number of Samples:

134985

The media burns with good results except for a high PI-8 error at the beginning of the disc but the Transfer Rate Test has a smooth curve.

 

On the next page let’s take a look at the DVD-R/RW Writing Performance...

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Just would like to confirm, this model won't write or read blu-ray recordables with the new organic dye this article is talking about, right?

http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/Blu-ray-discs-get-cheaper-due-new-organic-dye-announcement.html
It will not write to any Blu-ray or HD discs, it is a Read Only for Blu-ray or HD-DVD
Hi. I'm a newbie to Bd/Hd before i buy the reader(Lg GGC-H20L0) will it be able to read the new organic dye disc coming out. :g
I have owned my LG Super Multi Combo Drive (model GGC-H20L) for 6 weeks now and it suddenly stopped working...
I can't get the drive to show up at all -- it causes the P.O.S.T. to take about 120 seconds or better to scan the IDE/SATA channels and never finds it... Windows XP can't see it either any more...

Can anyone help me?
In reality, is there any point to more than 1.5x transfer speed on BD-ROM at present? The only media out there at the moment in BD-ROM format is BD movies and they only require a 1.5x speed player/ROM. Testing the read speed on BD movies at faster than 1.5x is really a synthetic test only since the movies will only be read at 1.5x.

It may be years before games or apps ever come out on BD-ROM and it's not really economically viable for most of us to get a BD Burner yet. BD-R media can be read at the higher speeds.
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