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Posted on 13/01/05 05:01
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CD R/W Writing performance
 

The specifications of the LG GSA-4163B state that the drive is able to write CD-R discs at 40x and CD-RW at 24x. Let us find out how the drive really performs in speed and quality.

Writing Data CD-R discs:


For our data writing tests, we simply set up a new compilation of 700Mb using Nero Burning ROM software. Writing method used is DAO (Disc At Once), and the disc is set up as a non-multisession disc with 'finalize disc" enabled. The screenshot below shows how long it takes to write a disc at the highest speed. (40x):

The drive used 3 minutes and 15 seconds to write the disc at 40x. (Actually write speed 40.5x).  Let us see how this compares to other drives:

  • Philips DVDR1640P used 3 minutes and 17 seconds at 40x
  • NU DDW-082 used 3 minutes and 2 seconds at 40x
  • Samsung TS-H552B used exactly 3 minutes at 40x         
  • Plextor PX-708A used 2 minutes and 58 seconds at 40x

Write Quality:


We will test CD-R discs from a total of 6 different CD-R manufacturers. To really measure the write speed, we used the 'create data CD" function in Nero CD-Speed. The discs were written at the maximum speed that the drive supports. For the quality test, we used K-Probe 2 which is a tool developed by a Lite-On Employee. It runs under Windows and works with drives made by Lite-On. Also note that different drives and different reading speeds may affect the results obtained when scanning the discs. We used a Lite-On SOHR-5238S drive with firmware 4S06 and scanned the discs at 48X speed.

A written CD-R disc will always have some C1 errors; C1 errors are easily corrected by the drive's error correction capabilities. The next level of errors is C2, while C2 errors could also be corrected by most drive's error correction capabilities; they are not wanted on a good quality disc. A good disc should not contain any C2 errors, and preferably have an average C1 error amount of below 2.0 for the best discs, or at least below 10.0 averages for good quality discs. After C2 errors there are only un-correctable errors that will make a disc unusable.

Why wait any longer? Below are the obtained results:

 

Brand:

EMTEC - Thanks to MPOTEC (G) for sending us this media.

Manufacturer:

Plasmon Data Systems Ltd.

Code:

97m27s18f

Disc Type:

CD-R

Recording Layer:

Dye Type 8: Short Strategy (Phthalocyanine)

Capacity:

79:59.74 (703 MB)

Certified Speed:

52x

Write Speed:

40x

Write Time:

3m:19s

C1 Average/Sec:

0.70

C2 Average/Sec:

0.0

EMTEC CD-R High Performance, this media got an average of 0.70 - C1 errors and is consider as 'Best disc quality".

 

Brand:

MMORE - Thanks to MMORE (NL) for sending us this media.

Manufacturer:

Moser Baer India Limited

Code:

97m17s06f

Disc Type:

CD-R

Recording Layer:

Dye Type 6: Short Strategy (Phthalocyanine)

Capacity:

79:59.74 (703MB)

Certified Speed:

1x-52x

Write Speed:

40x

Write Time:

3m:16s

C1 Average/Sec:

1.03

C2 Average/Sec:

0.0

MMORE media - manufactured by Moser Baer India Limited and with it's average of 1.03 it goes in the 'best discs" category.


 

Brand:

Plextor

Manufacturer:

Taiyo Yuden

Code:

97m24s01f

Disc Type:

CD-R

Recording Layer:

Dye Type 1: Long Strategy (Cyanine, AZO)

Capacity:

79:59.72 (703MB)

Certified Speed:

48x

Write Speed:

40x

Write Time:

3m:16s

C1 Average/Sec:

0.16

C2 Average/Sec:

0.0

Media made by Taiyo Yuden have always had a good reputation and with the average 0.16 it goes into the group 'best discs". Highly recommended!


Brand:

Sky Ultra- Thanks to Sky Media (CH) for sending us this media.

Manufacturer:

Plasmon Data Systems Ltd.

Code:

97m27s18f

Disc Type:

CD-R

Recording Layer:

Dye Type 8: Short Strategy (Phthalocyanine)

Capacity:

79:59.74 (703MB)

Certified Speed:

52x

Write Speed:

40x

Write Time:

3m:18s

C1 Average/Sec:

1.71

C2 Average/Sec:

0.0

Sky CD-R with Plasmon media code got an average of 1.71 and goes into the category 'Best quality discs".


Brand:

TDK

Manufacturer:

TDK Corporation

Code:

97m15s05f

Disc Type:

CD-R

Recording Layer:

Dye Type 5: Short Strategy (Phthalocyanine)

Capacity:

79:59.74 (703MB)

Certified Speed:

52x

Write Speed:

40x

Write Time:

3m:16s

C1 Average/Sec:

1.12

C2 Average/Sec:

0.0

This media goes into the category 'best quality discs" for its C1 average with 1.12.

 

Brand:

Traxdata - Thanks to Conrexx (NL) for sending us this media.

Manufacturer:

Ritek

Code:

97m15s17f

Disc Type:

CD-R

Recording Layer:

Dye Type 7: Short Strategy (Phthalocyanine)

Capacity:

79:59.70 (703MB)

Certified Speed:

52x

Write Speed:

40x

Write Time:

3m:16s

C1 Average/Sec:

1.12

C2 Average/Sec:

0.0

Also, this media goes into the category 'best quality discs" for its C1 average with 1.12.


 

Brand:

Verbatim - Thanks to Verbatim (D) for sending us this media.

Manufacturer:

Mitsubishi Chemicals Corporation

Code:

97m34s23f

Disc Type:

CD-R

Recording Layer:

Dye Type 3: Long Strategy (Cyanine, AZO)

Capacity:

79:59.73 (703MB)

Certified Speed:

52x

Write Speed:

40x

Write Time:

3m:15s

C1 Average/Sec:

3.88

C2 Average/Sec:

0.0

Verbatim - a well known brand showed us an average of 3.88 it goes in the category 'Good Discs".

Writing Quality with Re-Writable discs:


Due to requests from our readers, we will add a few write quality tests with Re-Writable media. Settings and testing procedures is the same as used earlier in this review, so you may want to go back and read them if unsure. All discs used for these tests have been written to before, but none have been written to more than 5 times.

CD-ReWritable media:


Brand:

Traxdata - Thanks to Conrexx (NL) for sending us this media.

Manufacturer:

Plasmon Data Systems Ltd.

Code:

97m27s12f

Disc Type:

High Speed CD-RW 8-24x

Recording Layer:

Phase Change

Capacity:

74:41.00 (703MB)

Certified Speed:

8x-24x

Write Speed:

16x

Write Time:

4m:58s

C1 Average/Sec:

10.23

C2 Average/Sec:

0.0

We can see some high spikes in the beginning of the disc, but nothing serious. A good result!


 

Brand:

Verbatim - Thanks to Verbatim (D) for sending us this media.

Manufacturer:

Mitsubishi Chemicals Corporation

Code:

97m34s24f

Disc Type:

Ultra Speed CD-RW 24x

Recording Layer:

Phase Change

Capacity:

79:59.74 (703MB)

Certified Speed:

16-24x

Write Speed:

24x

Write Time:

3m:54s

C1 Average/Sec:

5.81

C2 Average/Sec:

0

Once again, some high spikes in the beginning of the disc, but a good result.

Summary:
The results are just excellent! Overall, it does a fantastic job writing to CD-R Media.

 

So let us head on to next page and read about DVD-Writing performance…

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Reactions on this item
Excellent review again!!!

Is this the new No.1??? and the Benq 1620 goes to 2nd place??
I am very impressed with this and I should be receiving my 4163B today.

Though it does not completely eclipse BenQ because it does not support +RW bitsetting.
They are both good drives. The LG is faster, supports more formats and has good quality.

The BenQ on the other hand has much better media compatibility and overspeeding abilities along with great quality as well. + it has pretty good media testing abilities.

But you will not go wrong with any of these drives - but remember, the LG is brand new, and we hope benQ and other manufacturers has something new in their pockets soon as well......
I'm sure they could rectify that in a firmware update. It's surprising why and for what reason they left it out.

The drive is very nice though. The added support of dvd-r dl would be sweet.
could you please comment on the noise the drive makes? It would be perfect if you could compare that noise to the BenQ 1620, the NEC3520 and the Plextor 716A! I'm about to buy one of these 4 drives in the next weeks and have a hard time decideing which one to get. But sinde I want to put it in an SFF it's gotta be as silent as possible.

Cheers, Mookie
Maybe I'm answering too late, but better late than never. Noise in DVD writers is often decided by the speed regardless of drive. There's no drive that records at 16x silently unless it starts from 4x and ends at 8x and still calls it 16x. Because GSA-4163B is the ONLY P-CAV 16x DVD writer, it is possible that it makes the most noice in 16x DVD recording. Look at the writing graph and compare it with those from other 16x DVD writers. Though I have many other 16x DVD writers myself, I don't really know which is the most silent. Sometimes I feel LG is the most silent. Sometimes I feel Pioneer is. Surely not Lite-On.
Very complete. I especially appreciated the scans of a wide variety of media and the attention to detail.
Wow!! What a perfect, thorough review. Thank you. I looked all over on the net trying to find a review, but only found it here. I had doubts if I should buy this drive or not. Now I'm convinced I can get get it. :g
Great article a little technical but overall well written. I brought the drive because of the price and I am very happy with it.:X:+
Perhaps a good drive for DVD/CD writting, but in this review, apart from mentioning "digital audio connector" (intro page), there is no mention that the digital audio signal (SPDIF) is actually not present.
I purchased this drive and sold it back 6 hours later because of that. The digital-like connector on the rear side is labeled "Reserved". The connector is simply unconnected inside the drive.
Ough, back on the beginning. I have to read reviews again in order to find another one with similar pros / cons, which hopefully has SPDIF output physically present (and similar or up to 30% more price).
Cristi
I'd like to add that the read noise (especially interesting when playing DVD film) is very low. Rainer
lol U use spdiff why on earth cant you just use software that can playback the Cd-audio data on the disc through the data conection.

Thats the best way really anyways.

Pleb
hi my computer totaly needed a reinstall n now my dvdram isnt loading in mycomputer window i need to reinstall the firmware from the original disk or somethin is there a link to get the original software for the LG GSA 4163B ir the disk iso would be best i moved to 100 mile about 700 km from where i was and my disk is back there with some stuff at family's house so if u can help would be much apreciated thanx ;)
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Please Help
i lost the original disk with it i need it for the driver so i can hear dvds
I bought this exact drive about a year ago I love the ease of use. But I have one problem. I bought a new motherboard and hard drive and in the process of loading the computer my grandson accidently broke my software bundle disk for the dvd so now I have no software for it I found the driver online but none of the bundle software. If anyone can tell me where to get a replacement it would be greatly appreciated
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