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LG GSA-4167B Super Multi DVD-Writer Review

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Posted by Jan S.
Posted on 27/11/05 17:31
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DVD+R DL/ R DL Writing performance
 

DVD+R/-R Double Layer writing speed and compatibility:


The LG GSA-4167B supports the DVD+R DL/-R DL standard for writing Double Layer/Dual Layer discs with a size around 8.5 GB at a writing speed of 6x/4x. Let us first take a look at the media's we will use:

Let's find the manufacturer and media information too, for this we will use CD-Speed:

This media is manufactured by Mitsubishi Kagaku Media. Thanks to Verbatim (D) for sending us this media.

The media is made by Ricoh Co. Ltd. (Made in Taiwan).  Thanks to Ricoh Europe (Germany) for sending us this media.

The Traxdata media is manufactured by RITEK. Thanks to Conrexx (NL) for sending us this media.

Testing procedure:
We created an ISO Image from a pre-authored DVD-Video compliant file set, with a total on-disc size of 8103 MB. We then wrote this image file using Nero Burning ROM 6. Below are the results:


Ricoh Media

Nero reported a successful burn with the Ricoh media in 44 minutes 48 seconds.



Traxdata media

Nero once again reported a successful burn with the Traxdata media in 44 minutes 19 seconds


Verbatim media

Nero once again completed the burn successfully with the Verbatim media in 28 minutes and 49 seconds. According to the total writing time, there must be an slowdown at 4x since the writing time is to high for 6x.

Let us take a look at the K-Probe results:


Brand:

Ricoh - Thanks to Ricoh Europe (D) for providing the sample.

Manufacturer:

Ricoh Co. Ltd.

Code:

RICOH JPN D00

Disc Type:

DVD+R DL

Capacity:

8145MB

Certified Speed:

2.4x

Write Speed:

2.4x

Write Time:

44m:48s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

14.15

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.02

High PI errors in the beginning and at the end of the disk.


Brand:

Traxdata - Thanks to Conrexx (NL)
for sending us this media.

Manufacturer:

RiTEK Corporation

Code:

RITEK D01

Disc Type:

DVD+R DL

Capacity:

8103MB

Certified Speed:

2.4x

Write Speed:

2.4x

Write Time:

44m:19s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

81.01

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.64

Very high PI and PIF on the first layer of the disk, but the disk were still readable though without any noticeable problems.


Brand:

Verbatim - Thanks to Verbatim (D) for providing the sample.

Manufacturer:

Mitsubishi Kagaku Media

Code:

MKM 001

Disc Type:

DVD+R DL

Capacity:

8145MB

Certified Speed:

2.4x

Write Speed:

6x *

Write Time:

28m:49s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

7.71

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.01

The PI errors are higher on the second layer, but overall the result is good.

* As mentioned before, this media got properly a slowdown to 4x during the burn, since the total writing time is to high for 6x.

Let's compare the LG GSA-4167B results with some other DL capable drives.

Drive

Size

Writing
Speed

Writing
Time

Book
Type

KProbe
avg.
PI

KProbe
avg.
PIF

Lite-On
SHOW-1653S

8152 MB

4x

27m:09s

DVD-ROM

2.61

0.15

LG
GSA-5160D

8103 MB

2.4x

44m:25s
44m:41s

DVD-ROM

2.19
18.63

0.04
0.04*2

ASUS
DRW-1604P

8131 MB

4x

26m:58s

DVD-ROM

3.29

0.18

Samsung
TS-E522U

8103MB

6x
Z-CLV

23m:30s

DVD+DL

11.58

0.03*1

Philips
DVDR16LS

8103MB

2.4x

45m:52s

DVD-ROM

2.28

0.04*

NU
HDW-164

8103MB

4x

37m:00s

DVD-ROM

1.89

0.02*1

NEC
ND-3540A

8103MB

2.4x
2.4x
8x

44m:08s
44m:03s
19m:02

DVD-ROM

37.44
12.36
1.91

0.02*3
0.02*2
0.01*1

BenQ
DW1640

8152Mb

8x

15m:36s

DVD-ROM

3.26

0.02

Pioneer
DVR-110D


8145MB

2.4x
2.4x
8x
2.4x

45m:13s
45m:29s
18m:04s
45m:15s

DVD-ROM

5.51
20.45
2.16
4.39

0.10*3
0.23*2
0.04*1
0.08*4

LG
GSA-4167B

8103MB

2.4x
2.4x
8x(4x)

44m:48s
44m:19s
28m:49s

DVD-ROM

14.15
81.01
7.71

0.02*3
0.64*2
0.01*1

*1 Verbatim DVD+R DL
*2 Traxdata DVD+R DL
*3 Ricoh DVD+R DL
*4 DataWrite DVD+R DL

DVD-R DL

As mentioned in the beginning of this page, the LG GSA-4167B supports the DVD-R DL standard at 4x. Let us first take a look at the media we will use:

Let's find the manufacturer and media information too, for this we will use CD-Speed:

This media is manufactured by Mitsubishi Kagaku Media. Thanks to Verbatim for sending us this media.

Again, we used Nero Burning Rom 6 to write the DVD Image:

The LG GSA-4167B used 27 minutes and 25 seconds to write the Verbatim DVD-R DL 4x media at 4x.


Brand:

Verbatim - Thanks to Verbatim for providing the sample.

Manufacturer:

Mitsubishi Kagaku Media

Code:

MKM 01RD30 

Disc Type:

DVD-R DL

Capacity:

8145MB

Certified Speed:

4x

Write Speed:

4x

Write Time:

27m:25s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

2.43

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.02

Overall this media was burned with very good quality.

 

Standalone DVD-Player compatibility:


We only have 3 standalone DVD-Players and 1 standalone DVD+R/W recorder available to test the DVD+R DL media (BookType: DVD-ROM) and the DVD-R DL media (BookType: DVD-R) with:

  • Aiwa DVD Player XD-DV370
  • Medion DVD/Div-X Player MD7457
  • Red Star DVD-Player 230G
  • Mustek R100A DVD+R/W Recorder

Compatibility results: 

Drive

Ricoh
DVD+R DL

Traxdata
DVD+R DL

Verbatim
DVD+R DL

Verbatim
DVD-R DL

Comments

Aiwa
XD-DV370

OK

OK

OK

OK

No problems.

Medion
MD7457

OK

OK

OK

FAILED

Reports disc as DVD-Video, but not playable.

Mustek
R100A

OK

OK

OK

FAILED

Reports ?NO DISC?.  

Red Star
230G

OK

OK

OK

FAILED

Reports disc as DVD-Video, but not playable

All DVD Standalone devices played the LG GSA-4167B burned DVD+R DL medias. But only one DVD Standalone devices would play the DVD-R DL media.

Summary: Very good quality on the DVD-R DL media, but the quality on some DVD+R DL media could have been better. The DVD standalone compatibility results, for the DVD+R DL media is very good.

 

Before we round off this review, let us run the drive through some advanced tests at next page…

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Reactions on this item
Yeah, great drive :)

LG rcoks
Awesome quality.
Sad LG still didn't do PI/PIF check.
cool
If only it could pass the 2.90 safedisc protection test..., it would then be the perfect writer!
Very good Article!
With Firmware DL12 it is also possible to set DVD+RW discs to DVD-ROM booktype.
Sorry, bitsetting for DVD+RW is NOT possible with firmare DL12. It was an error.
Pafan use Alcohol 120% to bypass Safedisc 2.90 Protection and yes indeed it is prefect burner that money can buy:d
With firmware DL12 DVD-Video reading speed is even slower.
SL + DL both only 5x max. :c
+1
Great test indead :)

Was basically lookin for that one, as i was offered a bundle with LG GSA-4167BBB @ 38€ (with 5 dvd boxes & cd pen), but wanted to see how well & fast it writes on CDRW & DVD±RW.
Good test-have got one on the strength of it.
Nice short casing-fits into small cases without interference.
Excellent bang-for bucks ratio.
99min CD compatible.
Silver fronted version to go in my Lian li -cheap and nasty finish.Ive done a better job with aerosol car paint...
Recommended -especially at the bargain price.
great drive, but how do you make it region free?
The best DVD Writer I have bought so far.I have tried LiteOn's,BenQ and NEC and the LG GSA-4167B is the best of them all.Why?Because it can write better quality than the others providing you buy good media and it dont make clicking/clunking noises,its works smoothly and you dont even notice the drive is there.
I recently bought a Pioneer DVR-111BK and its excellent and dont make strange noises but the LG still beats the Pio when writing to DVD+R and "DVD_R"
Best DVD Writer ever!!! :)
I have had an LGS 4167b for 1 year, been wonderful...
but I also have it in an external USB enclosure. which makes it even sweeter, I can love it to any computer and together using Nero, it rocks.. very nice. :)
Help! I have a this drive with DL13 firmware but it doesn't work. It shows device full when you look at its properties and will not write any disks at all. :c I have an Asus AN8-SLI mobo and XP. Any ideas?
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