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| Posted by | Tor Magne |
| Posted on | 25/03/05 21:13 |
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The specifications of the LG GSA-5163D state that the drive is able to write CD-R discs at 40x. Let us find out how the drive really performs in speed and quality.
Writing Data CD-R discs:
Let us first take a look at the CD-R write technology used by the LG GSA-5163D:
As we could see, the LG GSA-5163D uses Z-CLV (Zone-Constant Linear Velocity) to write at its rated speed of 40x, this gives an average speed of 31.74x. This seems to be a bit slower than other drives, let us take a look at two other drives below.
The Mad Dog MD-16XDVD9 uses CAV (Constant Angular Velocity) to write at its rated speed of 48x. This gives an average speed of 36.38x.
As we could see the Plextor PX-712A uses CAV (Constant Angular Velocity) writing strategy to reach it rated speed of 48X. This gives an average speed of 36.43x.
And as a last test we wrote a disc containing 700Mb using Nero Burning ROM software. Writing method used is DAO (Disc At Once), and the disc is set up as a non-multisession disc with 'finalize disc" enabled.

The LG GSA-5163D used 3 minutes and 17 seconds to write the disc at 40x. Let us see how this compares to other drives:
|
CD-R |
Supported |
Write |
Start |
End |
Average |
Write |
Write
|
|
Plextor |
48x |
CAV |
21.28x |
48.14x |
36.43x |
2m:43s |
2m:45s |
|
Philips |
40x |
CAV |
17.74x |
40.60x |
29.86x |
3m:21s |
3m:17s |
|
BenQ |
40x |
CAV |
17.75x |
40.61x |
29.37x |
3m:24s |
3m:23s |
|
Pioneer |
32x |
Z-CLV |
16.03x |
32.20x |
24.94x |
4m:00s |
4m:15s |
|
Samsung |
40x |
P-CAV |
20.91x |
39.55x |
34.27x |
2m:47s |
2m:49s |
|
Mad
Dog |
48x |
CAV |
21.41x |
48.16x |
36.38x |
2m:56s |
2m:58s |
|
Philips |
48x |
CAV |
18.98x |
42.88x |
32.47x |
3m:01s |
3m:03s |
|
Memorex |
48x |
CAV |
21.74x |
49.42x |
37.23x |
2m:37s |
3m:11s |
|
AOpen |
48x |
CAV |
22.07x |
49.66x |
37.69x |
2m:44s |
2m:47s |
|
LG |
40x |
Z-CLV |
16.01x |
40.48x |
31.76x |
3m:15s |
3m:15s |
|
Lite-On |
48x |
CAV |
21.90x |
49.55x |
37.49x |
2m:38s |
2m:44s |
|
LG |
40x |
Z-CLV |
16.00x |
40.91x |
31.74x |
3m:23s |
3m:17s |
The LG GSA-5163D is far from the fastest drive due to the lower writing speed of 40x Z-CLV.
Write Quality:
We will test CD-R discs from a total of 8 different CD-R manufacturers. To really measure the write speed, we used the 'create data CD" function in Nero CD-Speed. The discs were written at the maximum speed that the drive supports. For the quality test, we used K-Probe 2 which is a tool developed by a Lite-On employee. It runs under Windows and works with drives made by Lite-On. Also note that different drives and different reading speeds may affect the results obtained when scanning the discs. We used a Lite-On LTR-52246S drive with firmware 6S0F and scanned the discs at 48X speed.
A written CD-R disc will always have some C1 errors; C1 errors are easily corrected by the drive's error correction capabilities. The next level of errors is C2, while C2 errors could also be corrected by most drive's error correction capabilities; they are not wanted on a good quality disc. A good disc should not contain any C2 errors, and preferably have an average C1 error amount of below 2.0 for the best discs, or at least below 10.0 average for good quality discs. After C2 errors there are only un-correctable errors that will make a disc unusable.
Why wait any longer? Below are the obtained results:
|
Brand: |
Memorex, thanks to Memorex for providing it. |
|
Manufacturer: |
CMC Magnetics |
|
Code: |
97m26s66f |
|
Disc Type: |
CD-R |
|
Recording Layer: |
Dye Type 6: Short Strategy (Phthalocyanine) |
|
Capacity: |
79:59.73 (703MB) |
|
Certified Speed: |
48x |
|
Write Speed: |
40x, but slowed down to 32x near the end. |
|
Write Time: |
3m:33s |
|
C1 Average/Sec: |
0.95 |
|
C2 Average/Sec: |
0.0 |
CMC Magnetics is not known for making the best CD-R discs, but this result is pretty good. Disappointing that the drive slowed down to 32x though.

|
Brand: |
MMORE |
|
Manufacturer: |
Moser Baer India |
|
Code: |
97m17s06f |
|
Disc Type: |
CD-R |
|
Recording Layer: |
Dye Type 6: Short Strategy (Phthalocyanine) |
|
Capacity: |
79:59.74 (703MB) |
|
Certified Speed: |
52x |
|
Write Speed: |
40x |
|
Write Time: |
3m:21s |
|
C1 Average/Sec: |
0.67 |
|
C2 Average/Sec: |
0.0 |
Simply perfect.
|
Brand: |
Verbatim Data Life Plus |
|
Manufacturer: |
Moser Baer India for Mitsubishi. |
|
Code: |
97m34s23f |
|
Disc Type: |
CD-R |
|
Recording Layer: |
Dye Type 3: Long Strategy (Cyanine or AZO) |
|
Capacity: |
79:59.73 (703MB) |
|
Certified Speed: |
52x |
|
Write Speed: |
40x |
|
Write Time: |
3m:23s |
|
C1 Average/Sec: |
0.90 |
|
C2 Average/Sec: |
0.0 |
Good quality with Mitsubishi/Verbatim media as well.
|
Brand: |
Traxdata - thanks to conrexx for providing it |
|
Manufacturer: |
Ritek (JS Dye) |
|
Code: |
97m15s17f |
|
Disc Type: |
CD-R |
|
Recording Layer: |
Dye Type 7: Short Strategy (Phthalocyanine) |
|
Capacity: |
79:59.70 (703MB) |
|
Certified Speed: |
52x |
|
Write Speed: |
40x |
|
Write Time: |
3m:25s |
|
C1 Average/Sec: |
0.32 |
|
C2 Average/Sec: |
0.00 |
An excellent result, probably partially thanks to the new batch of Traxdata discs provided by Conrexx.
|
Brand: |
Miflop Extreme - Thanks to Miflop for providing it |
|
Manufacturer: |
Taiyo Yuden |
|
Code: |
97m24s01f |
|
Disc Type: |
CD-R |
|
Recording Layer: |
Dye Type 1: Long Strategy (Cyanine or AZO) |
|
Capacity: |
79:59.72 (703MB) |
|
Certified Speed: |
52x |
|
Write Speed: |
40x |
|
Write Time: |
3m:19s |
|
C1 Average/Sec: |
1.02 |
|
C2 Average/Sec: |
0.0 |
A good result, as expected with Taiyo Yuden.

|
Brand: |
Prodisc |
|
Manufacturer: |
Prodisc |
|
Code: |
97m32s19f |
|
Disc Type: |
CD-R |
|
Recording Layer: |
Dye Type 9: Short Strategy (Phthalocyanine) |
|
Capacity: |
79:59.71 (703MB) |
|
Certified Speed: |
52x |
|
Write Speed: |
40x |
|
Write Time: |
3m:23s |
|
C1 Average/Sec: |
0.33 |
|
C2 Average/Sec: |
0.0 |
No problems with this Prodisc media either.

|
Brand: |
Miflop Lite - thanks to Miflop for providing it. |
|
Manufacturer: |
Digital Data Storage (using generic plasmon ID) |
|
Code: |
97m27s18f |
|
Disc Type: |
CD-R |
|
Recording Layer: |
Dye Type 8: Short Strategy (Phthalocyanine) |
|
Capacity: |
79:59.74 (703MB) |
|
Certified Speed: |
52x |
|
Write Speed: |
40x |
|
Write Time: |
3m:24s |
|
C1 Average/Sec: |
4.85 |
|
C2 Average/Sec: |
0.0 |
We did not expect the best result from these discs, but the result is acceptable - but of course not as good as with other media types.

|
Brand: |
BenQ, thanks to Daxon for providing it |
|
Manufacturer: |
Daxon (but with Hitachi Maxell ATIP) |
|
Code: |
97m25s29f |
|
Disc Type: |
CD-R |
|
Recording Layer: |
Dye Type 9: Short Strategy (Phthalocyanine) |
|
Capacity: |
79:59.74 (703MB) |
|
Certified Speed: |
52x |
|
Write Speed: |
40x |
|
Write Time: |
3m:17s |
|
C1 Average/Sec: |
1.883 |
|
C2 Average/Sec: |
0.0 |
No problems with this disc type either.
CD-ReWritable:
The LG GSA-5163D supports a CD-ReWriting speed of 24x, let us see how this compares to other writers. Let us start with taking a look at the writing strategy it uses:
The LG GSA-5163D uses Z-CLV, (Zone-Constant Linear Velocity), to write at its rated speed of 24x, this gives an average speed of 22.57x. This seems to be about average compared to other drives, but let us include some other results for comparison.
The Pioneer DVR-107D uses Z-CLV, (Zone-Constant Linear Velocity), to write at its rated speed of 24x, this gives an average speed of 22.47x.
The Plextor PX-712A, with its P-CAV (Partial-Constant Angular Velocity) write speed of 24X for Ultra Speed CD-RW discs is among the faster writers due to its high starting speed of 21.12x.
And we did also write a disc in Nero Burning ROM, the compilation we made was 650Mb large and we wrote the disc with the Disc At Once write method.
The LG GSA-5163D used 3 minutes and 34 seconds for writing the disc at 24x, let us compare this to some other writers:
|
CD-RW |
Supported |
Write |
Start |
End |
Average |
Write |
Write |
|
Plextor |
24x |
P-CAV |
21.12x |
24.00x |
23.89x |
3m:40s |
3m:34s |
|
Philips |
24x |
P-CAV |
17.74x |
25.20x |
23.13x |
3m:56s |
3m:41s |
|
BenQ |
24x |
P-CAV |
17.73x |
24.54x |
23.14x |
3m:54s |
3m:40s |
|
Pioneer |
24x |
Z-CLV |
16.00x |
24.06x |
22.47x |
4m:04s |
4m:00s |
|
Samsung |
32x |
P-CAV |
20.94x |
31.85x |
30.21x |
3m:10s |
- |
|
Mad
Dog |
24x |
Z-CLV |
20.08x |
24.01x |
23.68x |
3m:52s* |
3m:53s |
|
Philips |
24x |
Z-CLV |
16.04x |
24.07x |
22.63x |
4m:10s |
- |
|
AOpen |
24x |
Z-CLV |
16.01x |
24.03x |
22.06x |
4m:17s |
- |
|
LG |
24x |
Z-CLV |
16.01x |
23.80x |
23.35x |
3m:54s |
- |
|
Lite-On |
24x |
Z-CLV |
15.98x |
23.97x |
22.57x |
4m:19s |
3m:55s |
|
LG |
24x |
Z-CLV |
16.00x |
24.00x |
23.33x |
3m:57s |
3m:34s |
Pretty close to the fastest drives, despite the Z-CLV writing technology. Let us take a look at the writing quality with two CD-RW discs:

|
Brand: |
Verbatim Data Life Plus |
|
Manufacturer: |
CMC Magnetics, but with Mitsubishi dye and ATIP |
|
Code: |
97m34s24f |
|
Disc Type: |
US CD-RW |
|
Recording Layer: |
Dye Type 4: Long Strategy (Phase Change) |
|
Capacity: |
79:59.74 (703MB) |
|
Certified Speed: |
24x |
|
Write Speed: |
24x |
|
Write Time: |
3m:57s |
|
C1 Average/Sec: |
75.46 |
|
C2 Average/Sec: |
0.0 |
There are at least no C2 errors, but it's still not the best result we have seen with this disc type.

|
Brand: |
That's Write |
|
Manufacturer: |
Plasmon data systems |
|
Code: |
97m27s12f |
|
Disc Type: |
US CD-RW |
|
Recording Layer: |
Dye Type 2: Long Strategy (Phase Change) |
|
Capacity: |
74:41.00 (656MB) |
|
Certified Speed: |
24x |
|
Write Speed: |
16x |
|
Write Time: |
4m:21s |
|
C1 Average/Sec: |
184.10 |
|
C2 Average/Sec: |
0.01 |
Low quality discs, and as we could see the result is not good, it wrote this disc type at only 16x as well.
Summary:
Well, it's only 40x Z-CLV
writing, compared to 48x CAV/P-CAV for some other new drives. But it writes very
well at 40x and the quality with all tested discs is very good. CD-RW writing on
the other side could be improved.
But after all, it's a DVD-Writer, so head on to next page and read about DVD-Writing performance and DVD media compatibility…







Great writer and a great review.
If LG make better firmware-support the LG-drives should be the absolute best


The GSA-5163D is also optimized for working in an external enclosure. Take an GSA-4163B and put in the same case - I doubt you will be able to reach 16x at USB at least. 16x on firewire may work.
This is because LG have optimized the GSA-5163D firmware to work at max with this enclosure. And to be honest - this is the first drive I've had that actually reach REAL 16x speed on USB2 - regardless of drive and enclosure (yeah I have lik 5-6 different enclosures).
All respect to LG for really testing that transfer rates could be reached like expected - unlike Samsung ang NU with their external writers which can only reach around 13-14x before slowing down. Very dissapointed that NU and Samsung is marketing 16x external drives that can't reach 16x.
So yes - in my eyes it's worth it - buying this drive brings you a drive that is fully tested at both USB and firewire - I did not have a single problem with USB or Firewire while testing.
Buying a drive x + enclosure x will in most cases lead to problems in a way or another.


Before I retun it to Samx Club, how did you get the firmware upgraded to A103? I only see firmware upgrades for the internal model on LG's US website, and this version can not recognize my external drive, thus, preventing any attempt at upgrading the firmware..



GSA-5163D fw A103.
Tried the drive on USB2?





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