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LG GSA-H42N detail information

Posted by Doug Schwantes
Posted on 09/05/07 00:12
Manufacturer LG
Product LG GSA-H42N
Description 18x DVD burner
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DVD+R/RW writing performance
 

The specifications of this drive tell us that it should write DVD±R at 16x (some media can be oversped to 18x), DVD+RW at 8x, and DVD-RW at 6x. In this next section we will measure the write time for various types of DVD+R/RW and DVD-R/RW discs. We will also focus on write quality and media compatibility.

DVD+R/RW writing performance:


First, seeing we have already showed you the 18x speeds in our Disc Writing Technology section let us see how long it takes the LG GSA-H42N to create a 16x disc. We used Nero Burning Rom to set up a new UDF/ISO compilation containing 4480MB (4.36GB) of data, and started the write process. We used the Disc-At-Once write method.


DVD+R


DVD-R

The DVD+R disc was finished in 5 minutes and 31 second, while the DVD-R disc was finished in 5 minutes and 21 seconds. Below are the results. 

Write DVD data discs

DVD+R

DVD-R

Plextor
PX-755A

6m:02s
(16x speed)

6m:27s
(16x speed)

Sony
DRU-820A

6m:09s
(16x speed)

5m:59s
(16x speed)

ASUS
DRW-1612BL

6m:08s
(16x speed)

6m:23s
(16x speed)

LG
GSA-H42N

5m:31s
(16x speed)

5m:21s
(16x speed)

The LG GSA-H42N performed extremely well at both DVD-R and DVD+R 16x writing time. Now let us see how the writing quality is.

Write quality:


You should first notice that this is not a scientific and professional way to test the discs. But according to our testing done in recent months, we would conclude that there is a clear link between the quality reported when scanning the disc and the playability of the disc in different devices. Also notice that different drives report different amounts of errors. K-Probe was designed to work with Lite-On DVD-Writers. So we recommend using a DVD-Writer from Lite-On, in this test we use Lite-On LH-18A1P DVD-Writer, as already said; remember that scans done with a Lite-On DVD-ROM or Lite-On combo drive can’t be compared with the results obtained with a Lite-On DVD-Writer. Also remember that different PI/PO ECC sum settings along with different reading speeds in K-Probe will affect the result, we use these settings;  PI (Parity Inner) set to summarize 8 ECC blocks, PIF (Parity Inner Failures) set to summarize 1 ECC block, reading speed: 4X CLV (Constant Linear Velocity). Setting the PI sum to 8 and the PIF sum to 1 will give a result that we may compare to the standards for DVD+R/RW and DVD-R/RW.

But what is a good scan? That is a discussion that we don’t think will end soon, as different drives report different amount of errors, some players are more picky about media than others, and so on. But as a comparison we present you with a scan from two pressed DVD discs:

This scan above shows the results from a pressed, Single Layer DVD-Video disc (Crunch Yoga).

This next scan shows the result from a pressed Double Layer DVD-Video disc (Titanic Widescreen). Notice the error jump when shifting to the second layer (notice the error levels jump slightly from the end of the first layer to the beginning of the second layer).

If you read below you will see that both the pressed DVD-discs above are well within the standards.

If you want to look at the standards for yourself, download the ECMA 267 Standard for DVD-ROM, the ECMA 337 Standard for DVD+R/RW and the ECMA 338 Standard for DVD-R/RW at http://www.ecma-international.org. Here is some data from the ECMA standards (same for DVD-ROM, DVD-R/RW and DVD+R/RW):

Random errors:

A row of an ECC Block that has at least 1 byte in error constitutes a PI error. In any 8 consecutive ECC Blocks the total number of PI errors before correction shall not exceed 280.

Here we see that a PI error is defined as a row in an ECC block having 1 byte or more containing errors and that the sum of PI errors in 8 ECC blocks after each other should not exceed 280 PI errors.

But what is a row and what is an ECC block? Again we refer to the ECMA standards. We do not copy and paste everything, but if you’re interested, look in the ECMA standards. A row is 182 bytes long where the last 10 bytes contain PI (Parity Inner) information. An ECC block is 208 rows long where the last 16 rows contain the PO (Parity Outer) information. This gives us a maximum possible PI error amount of 208 errors per block and for 8 blocks after each other this sum is of course 8 times higher, giving a maximum possible amount of 1664 PI-8 errors. In practical use, a disc with 1664 PI-8 errors is unreadable.

According to our tests the specified max PI-8 sum of 280 for good discs seems to be a good guideline, as some readers have problems reading discs when the PI-8 errors is over 300 and most players starts to have problems when the PI-8 error level reaches 600 or more.

But what are the PIF errors that K-Probe reports? They are Parity Inner Failures, meaning errors left after PI correction. Only the ECMA 337 standard describes the Parity Inner Failures. So how is a Parity Inner Failure defined? Here is what the ECMA 337 states:

“If a row of an ECC Block as defined in 13.3 contains more than 5 erroneous bytes, the row is said to be “PI-uncorrectable”.”

In theory, an ECC block may in the worst case have 208 PIF since every ECC block is 208 rows long. But the ECMA 337 standard goes further and specifies the max amount of accepted PI Failures (uncorrectable errors) allowed on a good disc:

“In any ECC Block the number of PI-uncorrectable rows should not exceed 4.”  

This means that when the PIF sum is set to 1, the maximum error value should not exceed 4. The theoretical maximum value for PIF is 208 errors.

But what makes a disc unreadable? A POF (Parity Outer Failure) error will make the disc unreadable, but K-Probe does not display the POF’s.

Notice that there are other aspects such as disc reflectivity, tracking errors and so on that also will affect the readability of a DVD disc – but for this we do not have measuring equipment available.

Also, another note is that we have scanned the discs at 4X CLV speed, by lowering the speed to 2X (DVD-R/RW)/2.4X (DVD+R/RW) or 1X the amount of reported errors may drop on some discs. We scanned at 4X CLV due to lower speeds taking too much time.

To see if there is a connection between the reported amount of errors and readability of the discs we also include the reading curve from a BenQ DW1655 DVD-Writer which by default is able to read DVD±R media at 16x speed. A small speed reduction near the end is still accepted on good discs, but serious reading problems or reading failures is a bad sign.

Easier explanation on how to read the test results.


Maybe this got too technical, and you are wondering what to look for in KProbe reports?

Use this as a guideline for good discs:

·         PI (Parity Inner): No larger areas on the disc should exceed 280 PI-8 errors, do not worry too much about high single spikes that exceed 280.

·         PIF (Parity Inner Failures): No larger areas on the disc should exceed 4 PIF-1 errors, do not worry too much about high single spikes that exceed 4.

And as always: the lower is better.

Also look at the reading curve; if it looks clean with no dips it should be good, a small slowdown near the end is accepted.

DVD+R media compatibility and write quality:   


In these tests we will be using a Lite-On LH-18A1P drive along with K-Probe to measure the disc quality. We will also be using the BenQ DW-1655 along with Nero CD-DVD Speed for our read-back tests.



 Brand:

Verbatim – Thanks to Verbatim USA for providing this media.

Manufacturer:

Mitsubishi Chemicals Corporation

Code:

MCC 004

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4482MB

Certified Speed:

16x

Write Speed:

18x

Write Time:

5m:06s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

0.55

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.00

Disc quality is Excellent and the Transfer Rate Test has a smooth curve.




Brand:

Taiyo Yuden – Thanks to Rima.com for sending the media

Manufacturer:

Taiyo Yuden

Code:

YUDEN000T03

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4482MB

Certified Speed:

16x

Write Speed:

18x

Write Time:

5m:15s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

4.90

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.03

The media burns with good results and the Transfer Rate test has a smooth curve.




 Brand:

Maxell – Thanks to Maxell USA for sending us this media

Manufacturer:

CMC

Code:

CMC MAG M01 000 (00)

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4482MB

Certified Speed:

16x

Write Speed:

16x

Write Time:

5m:54s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

5.73

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.12

The media burns with good results with this hard to handle media and the Transfer Rate test has a smooth curve.


 Brand:

Memorex – Thanks to Memorex USA for sending us this media

Manufacturer:

Ricoh

Code:

RICOHJPN R03 004 (04)

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4482MB

Certified Speed:

16x

Write Speed:

16x

Write Time:

5m:24s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

418.10

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

188.40

The media has very high (out of specification) PI-8 errors and PI-1 failures, the Transfer Rate Test has also failed to complete.


 Brand:

Ritek – Thanks to Ritek USA for sending us this media

Manufacturer:

Ridata

Code:

RITEK R04 001 (01)

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4482MB

Certified Speed:

16x

Write Speed:

12x

Write Time:

6m:27s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

6.57

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.04

The media burns with very good results and the Transfer Rate test has a smooth curve.

Note: The media would only burn at 12x even though 16x was selected.


 Brand:

Taiyo Yuden – Thanks to rima.com for sending us this media

Manufacturer:

Taiyo Yuden

Code:

YUDEN000 T02 000 (00)

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4482MB

Certified Speed:

8x

Write Speed:

8x

Write Time:

8m:00s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

3.82

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.01

The media burns with excellent results and the Transfer Rate test has a smooth curve.


 Brand:

Optodisc

Manufacturer:

Optodisc

Code:

OPTODISC R16 000 (00)

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4482MB

Certified Speed:

16x

Write Speed:

16x

Write Time:

5m:42s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

0.76

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.01

The Optodisc R16 media burned with excellent results and the Transfer Rate test has a smooth curve.


 Brand:

Memorex

Manufacturer:

CMC Magnetics

Code:

CMC MAG E01 (000)

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4482MB

Certified Speed:

8x

Write Speed:

8x

Write Time:

7m:56s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

1.28

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.11

The Memorex media with the CMC MAG E01 media code burned with good results and the Transfer Rate test has a smooth curve.

DVD+ReWritable media:


The LG GSA-H42N supports writing to DVD+RW discs at maximum 8x speed.



Brand:

Ritek – Thanks to Ritek USA for sending us the media.

Manufacturer:

Ricoh

Code:

RICOHJPN W21 001 (01)

Disc Type:

DVD+RW

Capacity:

4482MB

Certified Speed:

8x

Write Speed:

8x

Write Time:

7m:55s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

5.72

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.11

The media burns with good results and the Transfer Rate test has a smooth curve.


 

Brand:

Verbatim – Thanks to Verbatim USA for sending us the media.

Manufacturer:

Mitsubishi Chemicals Corporation

Code:

MKM A02 000 (00)

Disc Type:

DVD+RW

Capacity:

4482MB

Certified Speed:

4x

Write Speed:

4x

Write Time:

14m:15s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

11.26

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

1.86

The media burns with ok results and the Transfer Rate test has a smooth curve.


Brand:

Sony – Thanks to Sony USA for sending us the media.

Manufacturer:

Ricoh

Code:

RICOHJPN W11 001 (01)

Disc Type:

DVD+RW

Capacity:

4482MB

Certified Speed:

4x

Write Speed:

4x

Write Time:

14m:12s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

9.30

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.27

The media burns with good results and the Transfer Rate test has a smooth curve.

On the next page let’s take a look at the DVD-R/RW Writing Performance...

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Thanks for reviewing!

I'm live in Vietnam and i'm looking for DVD RW with good prices.I think this optical driver will my choice.

It cost 46$ (1 years full waratnty ) in Vietnam

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www.handicraft-vn.com
My new LG GSA-H42L (the Lightscribe version) did not have the ability to write at 12x when I first got it. I flashed it with firmware found through this site and now it burns at 12x fine. It will also read faster than 10x now. It's turning out to be a nice burner. I've done a few test burns at 18x with Sony media and they turned out fine.
:)
I have been trying to burn Tevion DVD-R discs with the LG H42N with Nero Express and CDBurnerXP Pro on XP Pro SP2. Nero kept bombing out if I had more than 500MB per session burnt. CDBurnerXP Pro had to have small sessions too or the PC would reboot or crash. Either the LG is too fast for my PC or the Tevion DVD-Rs are too low quality and only let me burn 1G before freaking out. I have wasted about 5 or more DVD-Rs so far out of 25. I never wasted any CD-Rs with a Sony CD-R drive. Sony is superior.
I found DeepBurner.com was a better DVD burner software. I still had to limit the burn size to 500MB each session and do multi-session or Windows XP would crash. This is very time consuming for backing up several gigabytes. I am looking at using tape backup instead of DVD burner as it will not crash Windows XP as it is not so demanding on the operating systems, memory, hard disk space and motherboard. Minimum 1GHz processor was recommended. I only had a 900MHz AMD processor.
The only good thing I can mention about this drive is the price. Other than that, it was the worst burner I've ever seen!
After the installation (in a hp pavilion xt926, running XP pro), it was introducing a delay of ~35 sec. at bootup, when the pc was doing nothing - maybe trying to figure out what the darn thing is?! I've discovered that the bios was under the impression that it was a hard drive (!). I reconfigured the bios and that delay vanished...
Now, I'm using Nero to burn my discs. Weird things happend whit this drive:
1. While writing, the hard drive works like crazy, way to much for the amount of data it has to transfer.
2. The REAL recording speed is maybe 5-10 times lower than the selected one !!! It takes forever to burn anything! The reading speed is OK though.
3. The PC clock is slowed down (!), so at the end of the burning process is ~5 min. back !
No errors are reported. Don't know where to go with this!
LG GSA H42N Super-Multi sucked with vista. vista cannot detect this dvd rom. u need to update firmware. but how? you cannot upload new firmware to dvd ram while vista cannot detect it. peh. install xp again, upload and install new firmware after that (if you are not dead cancer) format hd, install vista and use LG GSA H42N Super-Multi. thats the stupid drive. in the mean time you can update firmware if you find it. beacuse lge.com dont support that kind of things. you should use local distrubitor page if you have driver. (Turkish distrubitor page ( www.ufotek.com.tr ) sucked). good lock

Gostaria, de adquirir o software Lg Writ,
compativel com o Windows Vista Ultimate.

Gostaria de adquirir, o LG Writer Solution,
compativel com o Windows Vista Ultmate.
When I tried to use the feature lightscrible, On the screen it has shown "the printing completed" after just a couples of seconds. But surprised to see no label printed on the lightscrible CD. I have tried another CD but still same problem. Please could you advice me? Thank in advance.

Heng

Like made download
Does it support cd with capacity more than 702 MB e.g discs with capacity 850 MB?
i have tried updating firmware but nothing chanched
I don't know if i can perform lightscribe with my dvd player. I have this one ( GSA-H42N) and i received 1 lightscribe cd, but my computer doesnt recognize my dvd player in roxio! Help me!
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