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LG GSA-H55LI Super Multi DVD Rewriter with SecurDisc Technology

LG GSA-H55LI detail information

Posted by Kip R.
Posted on 22/07/07 19:03
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Manufacturer LG
Product LG GSA-H55LI
Description Super Multi DVD Rewriter with SecurDisc Technology
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DVD+R/RW writing performance

  

DVD-Writing performance

Write quality

You should first notice that this is not a scientific and professional way to test the discs. But according to our testing done in recent months, we would conclude that there is a clear link between the quality reported when scanning the disc and the playability of the disc in different devices. Also notice that different drives report different amounts of errors. K-Probe was designed to work with Lite-On DVD-Writers. So we recommend using a DVD-Writer from Lite-On, in this test we will use the DVDRW LH-20A1H DVD-Writer, as already said; remember that scans done with a Lite-On DVD-ROM or Lite-On combo drive can’t be compared with the results obtained with a Lite-On DVD-Writer. Also remember that different PI/PO ECC sum settings along with different reading speeds in K-Probe will affect the result, we use these settings;  PI (Parity Inner) set to summarize 8 ECC blocks, PIF (Parity Inner Failures) set to summarize 1 ECC block, reading speed: 4X CLV (Constant Linear Velocity). Setting the PI sum to 8 and the PIF sum to 1 will give a result that we may compare to the standards for DVD+R/RW and DVD-R/RW.

But what is a good scan? That is a discussion that we don’t think will end soon, as different drives report different amount of errors, some players are more picky about media than others, and so on. But as a comparison we present you with a scan from two pressed DVD discs:

This scan above shows the results from a pressed, Single Layer DVD-Video disc (Widow on the Hill).

This next scan shows the result from a pressed Double Layer DVD-Video disc (Monster in Law). Notice the error jump when shifting to the second layer (the error levels jump from the end of the first layer to the beginning of the second layer).

If you read below you will see that both the pressed DVD-discs above are well within the standards.

If you want to look at the standards for yourself, download the ECMA 267 Standard for DVD-ROM, the ECMA 337 Standard for DVD+R/RW and the ECMA 338 Standard for DVD-R/RW at http://www.ecma-international.org. Here is some data from the ECMA standards (same for DVD-ROM, DVD-R/RW and DVD+R/RW):

Random errors

A row of an ECC Block that has at least 1 byte in error constitutes a PI error. In any 8 consecutive ECC Blocks the total number of PI errors before correction shall not exceed 280.

Here we see that a PI error is defined as a row in an ECC block having 1 byte or more containing errors and that the sum of PI errors in 8 ECC blocks after each other should not exceed 280 PI errors.

But what is a row and what is an ECC block? Again we refer to the ECMA standards. We do not copy and paste everything, but if you’re interested, look in the ECMA standards. A row is 182 bytes long where the last 10 bytes contain PI (Parity Inner) information. An ECC block is 208 rows long where the last 16 rows contain the PO (Parity Outer) information. This gives us a maximum possible PI error amount of 208 errors per block and for 8 blocks after each other this sum is of course 8 times higher, giving a maximum possible amount of 1664 PI-8 errors. In practical use, a disc with 1664 PI-8 errors is unreadable.

According to our tests the specified max PI-8 sum of 280 for good discs seems to be a good guideline, as some readers have problems reading discs when the PI-8 errors is over 300 and most players starts to have problems when the PI-8 error level reaches 600 or more.

But what are the PIF errors that K-Probe reports? They are Parity Inner Failures, meaning errors left after PI correction. Only the ECMA 337 standard describes the Parity Inner Failures. So how is a Parity Inner Failure defined? Here is what the ECMA 337 states:

“If a row of an ECC Block as defined in 13.3 contains more than 5 erroneous bytes, the row is said to be “PI-un-correctable”.”

In theory, an ECC block may in the worst case have 208 PIF since every ECC block is 208 rows long. But the ECMA 337 standard goes further and specifies the max amount of accepted PI Failures (uncorrectable errors) allowed on a good disc:

“In any ECC Block the number of PI-un-correctable rows should not exceed 4.”  

This means that when the PIF sum is set to 1, the maximum error value should not exceed 4. The theoretical maximum value for PIF is 208 errors.

But what makes a disc unreadable? A POF (Parity Outer Failure) error will make the disc unreadable, but K-Probe does not display the POF’s.

Notice that there are other aspects such as disc reflectivity, tracking errors and so on that also will affect the readability of a DVD disc – but for this we do not have measuring equipment available.

Also, another note is that we have scanned the discs at 4X CLV speed, by lowering the speed to 2X (DVD-R/RW)/2.4X (DVD+R/RW) or 1X the amount of reported errors may drop on some discs. We scanned at 4X CLV due to lower speeds taking too much time.

To see if there is a connection between the reported amount of errors and readability of the discs we also include the reading curve from a BenQ DW1655 DVD-Writer which by default are able to read DVD±R media at 16x speed. A small speed reduction near the end is still accepted on good discs, but serious reading problems or reading failures is a bad sign.

Here is an easier explanation on how to read the test results

Maybe this got too technical, and you are wondering what to look for in KProbe reports?

Use this as a guideline for good discs:

  • PI (Parity Inner): No larger areas on the disc should exceed 280 PI-8 errors, do not worry too much about high single spikes that

·         PIF (Parity Inner Failures): No larger areas on the disc should exceed 4 PIF-1 errors, do not worry too much about high single spikes that exceed 4.

And as always: the lower is better.

DVD+R media compatibility and write quality

In these tests we will be using either a Lite-On DVDRW LH-20A1H  drive along with Kprobe2 to measure the disc quality. We will also be using the BenQ DW1650 or the NEC DVD-RW ND-4550A along with Nero CD-DVD Speed for our read-back tests.

Here is what we discovered:

The LG GSA-H55LI burned this media at 20X with good results considering the media is certified at 16X.


A little high in PIE with a few spikes above 4 in PIF but overall the burn is OK with a smooth TRT.


A few single spikes in PIF, otherwise a good burn with this media.


 

High PIE and PIF; the LG GSA-H55LI did not fare well with this media.


DVD+RW media compatibility and write quality

The LG GSA-H55LI supports writing to DVD+RW discs at speeds up to 8X.  Let’s now take a look at how it handled an 8X burn:

A little in PIE, smooth TRT read curve with overall good results.

Summary

The LG GSA-H55LI writes DVD+R/RW media with good to very good quality on our tested media. 

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Since when are Nero Express and InCD Cyberlink products?
HALLO I WANT TO ASK ABOUT THIS DRIVE IS IT AN ATA 66 OR ATA 33(UDMA)
Awesome securdisc technology, I can now password protect my porn so people don't steal it or show my mum!
Where I can buy this burner.. cant find anywhere?
I'm reasonably happy with mine, however this drive is a very slow DVD ripper and doesn't support disc quality scanning.

The firmware updates claim to reduce noise during DVD playback, as well as improve write quality on some discs. I'm betting the reduced speed for playing DVDs also applies to ripping DVDs and the original firmware might have been better for DVD ripping.

The drive doesn't cache audio CDs and is an excellent CD ripper for Exact Audio Copy. The read offset is +102. The write offset is +30.

The drive is ATA 66 (UDMA mode 4).
This is my favorite "burner" that I own however, my Lite-On 20A4P is my best "multi-purpose" burner because it rips extremely fast compared to this LG model. I get very high quality burns with this drive even with garbage media. The GSA-H55N or H55LI has riplock therefore it is intended to rip slowly because of the affect Hollywood has had on the industry. I don't know why LG has riplock though since many models do not. I hope their pockets were well padded for doing so! An advantage to a slow-ripper is that it could read heavily scratched media better so it doesn't have to be a downfall but it sure upsets all of the piraters :( . I bought mine at Newegg and the reason it doesn't support scanning is because it has a Panasonic chipset. If you need a drive for scanning then buy a burner with a MediaTek chipset. You can remove riplock by using MCSE and turn it into a really fast ripper but if you are like me you won't want to void your warranty unless your drive is more than a year old. This drive is they best quality burner that I have ever used! This drive is perfect when matched with a fast ripper like I have. I use the Lite-On to rip and the LG to burn and I haven't had a coaster in the year that I have owned them with at least 800, 4.38 GB disks burned from various brands and MID's. Even came across some fake TYG02 (Sonic brand from shop4tech) and it still came out great.
I've bought this burner on 29/2 and it stopped reading CD's on 13/3. It's really loud, CD reading is as BAD as it can only be - i still need to use my old Teac 8x8x32 recorder to read scratched CD's. Wouldn't recommend it to my worst enemy.
I just wanted 2 talk about d device,i just got one and it isnot working at all.pls can u tell me what 2 do
bought mine 2 weeks ago worked once :S wont read the disks anymore. :c keeps prompting me to put a disk in. oh well next time i will pay the extra money and get a external.
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