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Posted by Tor Magne
Posted on 11/02/04 18:01
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To round off this review we will run some advanced tests on the Lite-On LDW-811S. These tests are: making backups of protected data and audio discs as well as some special discs test.

Copy protected data discs:


For this test we will use the new CloneCD 4.3.1.9 version to make a backup of games containing some of the most popular copy protections. In the screenshot below we could see that the Lite-On LDW-811S supports all available write and read features in CloneCD:

  

The Lite-On LDW-811S supports DAO-RAW96 recording mode, which basically means it can write uncorrected data and subchannel data. Below are our results for all the tested games:

  

Motoracer 3 is protected with Tagé¨s, a protection that uses a very special sub channel protection. So far no drives have been able to backup this game successfully.

  

Flé¥klypa grand prix is a Norwegian game that is protected with CD Cops, again a very special protection that is added during the manufacturing process. So far no drives have been able to make a 100% working backup, a few drives in combination with a few media types may make a backup that works in a few drives.

  

Desperados: Wanted dead or alive is protected with Laserlok, a protection that takes very long time to read for most drives, but most drives is able to make working backups of this game.

  

The Diablo 2 expansion set is protected with SecuROM version 4.62.00 0100, a widely used protection scheme. Writers able to read and write subchannel data correctly should be able to backup this Game.

  

Grand Theft Auto: Vice city is protected with a newer version of SecuROM: namely version 4.84.69 0071. Very few (if any) writers could reliably make working backups of this protection. There is a few tricks that advanced users may use in combination with some writers to make a backup that will at least work in some drives, but this is still not a perfect copy.

 

Max Payne 2 is protected with one of the most recent SecuROM versions: version 4.85.04. Very few (if any) writers could reliably make working backups of this protection.

  

Max Payne is protected with the very popular Safedisc protection; the version used on Max Payne is version 2.30.33. If a writer supports 'Almost correct EFM encoding of regular bit patterns" it will be able to backup this protection without problems. If it does not support this you need to enable the 'Amplify weak sectors" option in CloneCD. This is a software trick to make most writers able to backup most safedisc protected games with weak sectors.

  

Serious Sam is also protected with the very popular Safedisc protection; the version used on Serious Sam is version 2.51.21. If a writer supports 'Correct EFM encoding of regular bit patterns" it will be able to backup this protection without problems. If it does not support this you need to enable the 'Amplify weak sectors" option in CloneCD. This is a software trick to make most writers able to backup most safedisc protected games with weak sectors.

  

Command and Conquer: Generals is another game protected with the very popular Safedisc protection, the version used on Command and Conquer: Generals is version 2.80.10. If a writer supports 'Correct EFM encoding of regular bit patterns" it may be able to backup this protection without problems. If it does not support this you need to enable the 'Amplify weak sectors" option in CloneCD. This is a software trick to make most writers able to backup most safedisc protected games with weak sectors. Note that some writers may still have problems with this version.

  

The protection on The Sims: Superstar expansion pack is also safedisc protected, this time it's version 2.90.40. Very few writers are able to reliably make a working backup of this protection. . If a writer supports 'Correct EFM encoding of regular bit patterns" it may be able to backup this protection without problems. If it does not support this you need to enable the 'Amplify weak sectors" option in CloneCD. This is a software trick to make most writers able to backup most safedisc protected games with weak sectors. Note that some writers may still have problems with this version.

 

And Vegas: Make it BIG is yet another safedisc protected game, this time it's version 3.10.20. Very few writers are able to reliably make a working backup of this protection. . If a writer supports 'Correct EFM encoding of regular bit patterns" it may be able to backup this protection without problems. If it does not support this you need to enable the 'Amplify weak sectors" option in CloneCD. This is a software trick to make most writers able to backup most safedisc protected games with weak sectors. Note that some writers may still have problems with this version.

The table below shows the backup capabilities of the Lite-On LDW-811S

Game -
protection

CloneCD
Read time

CloneCD
backup works?

Motoracer 3 -
Tages

2m:18s

No

Flé¥klypa -
CD-Cops

2m:24s

No

Desperados -
Laserlok

24m:01s

Yes

Diablo 2 expansion -
SecuROM v4.62.00 0100

2m:23s

Yes

GTA Vice City -
SecuROM v4.84.69 0071

2m:20s

No

Max Payne 2 -
SecuROM v4.85.04

2m:09s

No

Max Payne -
Safedisc v2.30.33

11m:51s

Yes

Serious Sam -
Safedisc v2.51.21

11m:05s

Yes

C&C: Generals -
Safedisc v2.80.10

11m:52s

No*

The Sims: Superstar -
Safedisc v2.90.40

11m:33s

No*

VEGA$ - Make it big -
Safedisc v 3.10.20

11m:18s

No*

*We made a working backup by using Blindwrite 4.5.7, so it seems like CloneCD have some problems with the newer safedisc versions.

Settings for CloneCD: Read subchannel data and write them uncorrected.
Fast Error Skip: enabled. Intelligent bad sector scanner: enabled and set to 100-error skip. First we tried to write with AWS(Amplify Weak sectors) disabled, if that did not work we wrote again with AWS enabled, as a last attempt we tried the emulate option as well.

Drives used to verify that the backup works: Toshiba SD-M1612 and JLMS XJ-HD165H, No emulators or ATIP hiders is running while testing the backup copy.

The Lite-On LDW-811S did very good in this test and was able to backup many protections, but notice that CloneCD seems to have a problem with the newer safedisc protections. But by using Blindwrite we were able to backup these protections as well.

Copy protected Audio:


For our protected audio test we used the Exact Audio Copy program. We inserted the protected audio discs and if the drive was able to recognize the disc we tried to extract the music tracks to the hard drive. First let us look at the discs we had available for this test:

  

Westlife: World of our own is protected with Cactus data shield 100.

  

Natalie Imbruglias White lilies Island. This disc is protected with Cactus datashield 200

  

Shakira: Laundry service, which is protected with Key2Audio version 2.

  

And finally Celine Dion: A new day has come, that is protected with key2audio version 3

Results:

Protected
Audio

Protection version

Exact Audio Copy

Westlife:
World of our own

Cactus data shield 100

Reads the disc without
 problems, but slow.

Natalie Imbruglia:
White lilies island

Cactus data shield 200

Reads the disc without
 problems, but slow.

Shakira:
Laundry Service

Key2Audio version 2

Reads the disc without
 problems, but slow.

Celine Dion:
A new day has come

Key2Audio version 3

Reads the disc without
 problems, but slow.

The Lite-On LDW-811S did very well in this test and extracted the content from all discs without any serious problems. Highly recommended drive for backing up audio discs!

Overburning:


To test the overburning capabilities of the Lite-On LDW-811S we used the overburning test in Nero CD/DVD-Speed. According to Nero CD/DVD speed the drive can overburn to more than 99 minutes:

  

To make sure that it actually works we wrote a 99 minutes long disc in Nero Burning ROM:

  

No problems with the writing so we tried to read the disc back:

  

As we could see the disc was not readable. This is probably due to the low quality of our Ritek 99 minute discs. And 99 min discs have totally disappeared from stores here in Norway so we are forced to use these old Ritek 99 min discs. But we have a disc of another brand that we wrote a long time ago, and here is the reading result of that disc:

 

A slowdown at the end but it was able to read the whole disc without problems.

8CM CD-R and pocket card CD-R discs:


Now we will try to read and write to 8cm CD-R discs and pocket card CD-R discs from Memorex.

8cm CD-R disc:

  

Brand:

Memorex

Manufacturer:

CMC Magnetics

Code:

97m26s66f

Disc Type:

CD-R

Recording Layer:

Dye Type 6: Short Strategy (Phthalocyanine)

Capacity:

23:59.74 (210.64MB)

Certified Speed:

24x

Write Speed:

20x-29x CAV

Write Time:

1m:20s

  

The Lite-On LDW-811S did not have any problems with writing and reading the 8cm CD-R disc.

Pocket card CD-R:

  

Brand:

Memorex

Manufacturer:

CMC Magnetics

Code:

97m26s66f

Disc Type:

CD-R

Recording Layer:

Dye Type 6: Short Strategy (Phthalocyanine)

Capacity:

06:00.00 (52.44MB)

Certified Speed:

Not specified

Write Speed:

20x-21x CAV

Write Time:

0m:45s

 

As we could see the drive had no problems with writing and reading the pocket card CD-R disc, but the reading speed was low.

Now, that concludes our Lite-On LDW-811S review, head on to the last page to read our conclusion…

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