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Lite-On LH-20A1H detail information

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Manufacturer Lite-On
Product Lite-On LH-20A1H
Description 20x 8x 8x / 20x 6x 8x / 12x /16x + 48x 32x 48x Super AllWrite. The Worlds fastest DVD rewriter with LightScribe!
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DVD+R/RW Writing Performance:

 

DVD+R/RW Writing performance:


In this test we will measure the time for writing to DVD±R discs. We used Nero Burning Rom to burn an ISO compilation containing 4483Mb of data. We used the Disc-At-Once write method.

DVD+R

DVD-R

Let’s compare with some other drives.

Write DVD data discs

DVD+R

DVD-R

Plextor
PS-760A

5m:40s
(18x speed)

5m:46s
(18x speed)

Samsung
SH-S182D

5m:31s
(18x speed)

5m:21s
(18x speed)

Lite-On
LH-20A1H

5m:10s
(20x speed)

5m:08s
(20x speed)

We can see that with its 20x writing speed, the Lite-On LH-20A1H was the fastest drive when writing DVD+R/-R, but let’s see how good the writing quality is.

 

Write quality:


You should first notice that this is not a scientific and professional way to test the discs. But according to our testing done in recent months, we would conclude that there is a clear link between the quality reported when scanning the disc and the playability of the disc in different devices. Also notice that different drives report different amounts of errors. K-Probe was designed to work with Lite-On DVD-Writers, so we recommend using a DVD-Writer from Lite-On. In this test we use a Lite-On LH-20A1H DVD-Writer, as already said; remember that scans done with a Lite-On DVD-ROM or Lite-On combo drive can’t be compared with the results obtained with a Lite-On DVD-Writer. Also remember that different PI/PO ECC sum settings along with different reading speeds in K-Probe will affect the result, we use these settings;  PI (Parity Inner) set to summarize 8 ECC blocks, PIF (Parity Inner Failures) set to summarize 1 ECC block, reading speed: 4X CLV (Constant Linear Velocity). Setting the PI sum to 8 and the PIF sum to 1 will give a result that we may compare to the standards for DVD+R/RW and DVD-R/RW.

But what is a good scan? That is a discussion that we don’t think will end soon, as different drives report different amount of errors, some players are more picky about media than others, and so on. But as a comparison we present you with a scan from two pressed DVD discs:

This scan shows the results from a pressed DVD-Video disc (GoldenEye).

This scan shows the result from a pressed DVD-Video disk (The Green Mile). Notice the error jump when shifting to the second layer (the error level actually drops from the end of the first layer to the beginning of the second layer).

If you read below, you will see that both the pressed DVD-discs are well within the standards.

Download the ECMA 267 Standard for DVD-ROM, the ECMA 337 Standard for DVD+R/RW and the ECMA 338 Standard for DVD-R/RW at http://www.ecma-international.org if you want to look at the standards for yourself. Here is some data from the ECMA standards (same for DVD-ROM, DVD-R/RW and DVD+R/RW):

Random errors:

A row of an ECC Block that has at least 1 byte in error constitutes a PI error. In any 8
consecutive ECC Blocks the total number of PI errors before correction shall not exceed 280.

Here we see that a PI error is defined as a row in an ECC block having 1 byte or more containing errors and that the sum of PI errors in 8 ECC blocks after each other should not exceed 280 PI errors.

But what is a row and what is an ECC block? Again we refer to the ECMA standards. We do not copy and paste everything, but if you’re interested, look in the ECMA standards. A row is 182 bytes long where the last 10 bytes contain PI (Parity Inner) information. An ECC block is 208 rows long where the last 16 rows contain the PO (Parity Outer) information. This gives us a maximum possible PI error amount of 208 errors per block and for 8 blocks after each other this sum is of course 8 times higher, giving a maximum possible amount of 1664 PI-8 errors. In practical use, a disc with 1664 PI-8 errors is unreadable.

According to our tests the specified max PI-8 sum of 280 for good discs seems to be a good guideline, as some readers have problems reading discs when the PI-8 errors is over 300 and most players starts to have problems when the PI-8 error level reaches 600 or more.

But what are the PIF errors that K-Probe reports? They are Parity Inner Failures, meaning errors left after PI correction. Only the ECMA 337 standard describes the Parity Inner Failures. So how is a Parity Inner Failure defined? Here is what the ECMA 337 states:

“If a row of an ECC Block as defined in 13.3 contains more than 5 erroneous bytes, the row is said to be “PI-un-correctable”.”

In theory, an ECC block may in the worst-case have 208 PIF since every ECC block is 208 rows long. But the ECMA 337 standard goes further and specifies the max amount of accepted PI Failures (un-correctable errors) allowed on a good disc:

“In any ECC Block the number of PI-un-correctable rows should not exceed 4.”  

This means that when the PIF sum is set to 1, the maximum error value should not exceed 4. The theoretical maximum value for PIF is 208 errors.

But what makes a disc unreadable? A POF (Parity Outer Failure) error will make the disc unreadable, but K-Probe does not display the POF’s.

Notice that there are other aspects such as disc reflectivity, jitter, tracking errors and so on that also will affect the readability of a DVD disc – but for this we do not have measuring equipment available.

Also, another note is that we have scanned the discs at 4X CLV speed, by lowering the speed to 2X(DVD-R/RW)/2.4X(DVD+R/RW) or 1X the amount of reported errors may drop on some discs. We scanned at 4X CLV due to lower speeds taking too much time.

To see if there is a connection between the reported amount of errors and readability of the discs we also include the reading curve from an NEC ND-4551A DVD-Writer. The reason why we have changed the reader is that some companies disliked that we used a modified firmware to obtain 16x reading speed. So to please them, we are now using a drive that reads DVD+R/-R media at 16x as default. A small speed reduction near the end is still accepted on good discs, but serious reading problems or reading failures is a bad sign.

Easier explanation on how to read the test results.


Maybe this got too technical, and you are wondering what to look for in KProbe reports?

Use this as a guideline for good discs:

·         PI (Parity Inner): No larger areas on the disc should exceed 280 PI-8 errors, do not worry too much about high single spikes that exceed 280.

·         PIF (Parity Inner Failures): No larger areas on the disc should exceed 4 PIF-1 errors, do not worry too much about high single spikes that exceed 4.

And as always; lower is better

And look at the reading curve; if it looks clean with no dips it should be good, a small slowdown near the end is accepted.

DVD+R media compatibility and write quality:


In these tests we will be using the Lite-On LH-20A1H with firmware LL07/LL0A along with KProbe to measure the disc quality. We will also be using the NEC ND-4551A with firmware 1-Z2 along with CD-Speed for our read-back tests.

EDITORS NOTE: Some DVD±R media was burned by using the OverSpeed function.

 



Brand:

Miflop Extreme

Manufacturer:

Taiyo Yuden Company Limited

Code:

YUDEN000 T03

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

16x

Write Speed:

20x

Write Time:

4m:57s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

0.83

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.01

Miflop extreme media with Taiyo Yuden media code, the result is excellent.


 


Brand:

Verbatim – Thanks to Verbatim (UK) for sending us this media.

Manufacturer:

Mitsubishi Chemicals Corporation

Code:

MCC004

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

16x

Write Speed:

18x

Write Time:

5m:30s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

0.98

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.01

The result is excellent.


Brand:

Datawrite – Thanks to SVP (UK) for sending us this media.

Manufacturer:

Prodisc Technology

Code:

PRODISC R04

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

16x

Write Speed:

16x

Write Time:

5m:50s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

15.25

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.07

A poor result, with PI-8 errors increasing near the end of the disc, and a drop in our read-back curve.


Brand:

Plextor

Manufacturer:

Taiyo Yuden

Code:

YUDEN000 T03

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

16x

Write Speed:

20x

Write Time:

5m:01s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

0.75

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.01

The result is again excellent on this Taiyo Yuden media, this time Plextor branded.


Brand:

Verbatim

Manufacturer:

Taiyo Yuden Company Limited

Code:

YUDEN000T02

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

8x

Write Speed:

8x

Write Time:

8m:17s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

0.22

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.01

As usual, another excellent result with Taiyo Yuden media.


Brand:

Traxdata – Thanks to Conrexx Europe for sending us this media.

Manufacturer:

RICOH Company Limited

Code:

RICOHJPN R03

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

16x

Write Speed:

16x

Write Time:

5m:51s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

1.43

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.04

This is a good result for this media.


Brand:

TDK

Manufacturer:

Moser Baer India

Code:

MBIPG101 R04

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

8x

Write Speed:

8x

Write Time:

8m:16s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

0.57

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.06

This result is very good, with just one PIF spike of 3.


Brand:

Sony AccuCORE

Manufacturer:

Sony

Code:

SONY D21

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

16x

Write Speed:

18x

Write Time:

5m:16s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

0.89

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.04

A very good result, with a nice smooth read-back curve.


Brand:

Ricoh

Manufacturer:

RICOH Company Limited

Code:

RICOHJPN R03

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

16x

Write Speed:

18x

Write Time:

5m:15s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

1.62

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.02

This result is again OK.

DVD+RW media compatibility and write quality:


We used the same test procedures as in our DVD+R tests.

Below are our obtained results.

 


Brand:

Traxdata – Thanks to Conrexx Europe for sending us this media.

Manufacturer:

RiTEK

Code:

RITEK008

Disc Type:

DVD+RW

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

8x

Write Speed:

8x

Write Time:

8m:36s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

13.69

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.04

The result is very good for this media.


Brand:

Verbatim – Thanks to Verbatim (UK) for sending us this media.

Manufacturer:

Mitsubishi Chemical Corporation

Code:

MKM A03

Disc Type:

DVD+RW

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

8x

Write Speed:

8x

Write Time:

8m:19s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

2.85

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.01

PI-8 errors a little high at the start of the disc, but PIF are very good. A very nice result with this media.


Summary:

The Lite-On LH-20A1H produced mixed results on both media types. On the other hand it produces very good results with quality media that are burned much faster than rated.

On the next page we are going to take a look at DVD-R/RW writing performance…

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When i load SureThing on my HP 840 drive. I need to install software from HP's page. Or i can't choose LightScribe drive at all in SureThing.
On another machine with LiteOn LH-20A1H, i don't have this software from LiteOn. And i can't Lightscribe to the drive with SureThing at all. Any suggestions ?.
I suggest Nero Cover Designer. Everything worked fine for me.

By the way I think OverSpeed function is useless. Error occurred while writing CMC MAG M01 dvd at 18x for the first time. Second time - no error, but it took 12 minutes to burn full dvd at 18x (3 mins for Lead-In) :/. Another drive SOHW 1653S couldn't even see that disk and it takes about 1 minute for LH-20A1H to recognize it.

I was hopping for better performance :(
hey guys..i tried to use nero label design with lightscribe...all was fine, till i looked for "print light scribe label" under file was MISSING..!! HELP PLS.
Swapped out an old burner for this one (done this sort of thing dozens of times. after installing and rebooting:
1. both PCI sound card and HD Tuner card no longer "seen" by windows
2. After upgrading the lightscibe software for Nero I designed a label that both had a background graphic and additonal inserted images. Did a lightscribe print preview in Nero 7; looked find - did a lightscribe print - background graphic did not print at all - only the inserted images.
Total flop.
:(
:) I am using the HP IDE-CD-ROM- 840B LightScribe drive with my HP Media Center PC (m7367C), I was LightScribing some labels using CD's that were made by Verbatim (DVD +R 16X ). Things were working fine, but I decieded that I wanted the color CD's. I ran out and bought the Memorex Cool Colors LightScribe CD-R. At that point I was no longer able to LightScribe anything. After hours of updating drivers and deleting other LightScribe applications, thinking maybe the LightScribe drive was competting for resourses, i went back to the Verbatim CD and it started working again. I guess we can NOT assume that if the CD's have the LightScribe logo on the packaging that they will work. I hope this help alot of you that appear to be having the same problem.
This message was edited at: 20-10-2007 04:38
I don't think in any review now that you can put does not support Mt. Rainier as from what i can see no drives really do anymore.
Installed LH -20A1S DVD Rewritter with PCI controller card and system will not boot up with unit installed but will without and will work once system is running i.e. will play etc, please advise
I purchased this unit and has worked well for me . I am currently using memorex and hps lightscribe without a glitch. Recently i uninstalled nero 7 essentials and donloaded lightscribe updated version. Seems its a standalone which i prefer. Will test during the week and will post again. STEVE
Hello,

does this drive support jitter testing ?

Thanks for the review.
can some tell me how to make this drive region free
thks in advance
This drive works flawlessly for me. Yes it's loud, but it rips and writes well.

Great with dBpoweramp. Very accurate (7+) rips.

:) :) :)

Replaces a Plextor 810-SA :( (Plextor = Garbage for me)
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