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Posted by Tor Magne
Posted on 05/10/03 22:23
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Advanced tests
 

To round off this review we will run some advanced tests on the Lite-On LTC-48161H. These tests are: making backups of protected data and audio discs as well as an overburning test.

Copy protected data discs:


 

For this test we will use CloneCD (as usual) and Blindwrite for the newest protections, to make a backup of games containing some of the most popular copy protections. In the screenshot below we could see that the Lite-On LTC-48161H supports all available write and read features in CloneCD:

 

The Lite-On LTC-48161H supports DAO-RAW96 recording mode, which basically means it can write uncorrected data and subchannel data. Below are our results for all the tested games:

 

Motoracer 3 is protected with Tagé?s, a protection that is added during the manufacturing process. So far no drives have been able to backup this game successfully.

 

Flé?klypa grand prix is a Norwegian game that is protected with CD Cops, again a very special protection that is added during the manufacturing process. So far no drives have been able to make a 100% working backup, a few drives in combination with a few media types may make a backup that works in a few drives.

 

Desperados: Wanted dead or alive is protected with Laserlok, a protection that takes very long time to read for most drives, but most drives is able to make working backups of this game.

 

The Diablo 2 expansion set is protected with SecuROM version 4.62.00 0100, a widely used protection scheme. Writers able to read and write subchannel data correctly should be able to backup this Game.

 

Grand Theft Auto: Vice city is protected with a newer version of SecuROM: namely version 4.84.69 0071. Very few (if any) writers could reliably make working backups of this protection.

 

Max Payne is protected with the very popular Safedisc protection, the version used on Max Payne is version 2.30.33. If a writer supports 'Almost correct EFM encoding of regular bit patterns" it will be able to backup this protection without problems. If it does not support this you need to enable the 'Amplify weak sectors" option in CloneCD. This is a software trick to make most writers able to backup most safedisc protected games with weak sectors.

 

Serious Sam is also protected with the very popular Safedisc protection, the version used on Serious Sam is version 2.51.21. If a writer supports 'Correct EFM encoding of regular bit patterns" it will be able to backup this protection without problems. If it does not support this you need to enable the 'Amplify weak sectors" option in CloneCD. This is a software trick to make most writers able to backup most safedisc protected games with weak sectors.

 

Command and Conquer: Generals is another game protected with the very popular Safedisc protection, the version used on Command and Conquer: Generals is version 2.80.10. If a writer supports 'Correct EFM encoding of regular bit patterns" it may be able to backup this protection without problems. If it does not support this you need to enable the 'Amplify weak sectors" option in CloneCD. This is a software trick to make most writers able to backup most safedisc protected games with weak sectors. Not that some writers may still have problems with this version.

 

The protection on The Sims: Superstar expansion pack is also safedisc, this time it's version 2.90.40. Very few (if any) writers are able to reliably make a working backup of this protection.

The table below shows the backup capabilities of the Lite-On LTC-48161H writer:

Game '?
protection

CloneCD
Read time

CloneCD
backup works?

Blindwrite
backup works?

Motoracer 3 '?
Tages

2m 23s

No

No

Flé?klypa '?
CD-Cops

2m 14s

No

No

Desperados '?
Laserlok

23m 25s

Yes

-

Diablo 2 expansion '?
SecuROM v4.62.00 0100

2m 11s

Yes

-

GTA3 Vice City '?
SecuROM v4.84.69 0071

2m 22s

No

No

Max Payne '?
Safedisc v2.30.33

10m 1s

Yes

-

Serious Sam '?
Safedisc v2.51.21

9m 57s

Yes

-

C&C: Generals '?
Safedisc v2.80.10

9m 49s

No

Yes

The Sims: Superstar '?
Safedisc v2.90.40

9m 19s

No

Yes

The reading performance of the Lite-On LTC-48161H is quite good; especially for the laserlok protection and protections with subchannel data is it fast. For safedisc protected discs it's quite fast but not the fastest drive we have seen. The writing capabilities of the drive is among the best as well and it's able to beat all safedisc protections, when the right program is used (CloneCD is a bit outdated when it comes to the newest Safedisc versions). The drive also supports 'Correct EFM encoding of regular bit patterns" which helps it when backing up safedisc protected discs.

Copy protected Audio:


 

For our protected audio test we used the Exact Audio Copy program. We inserted the protected audio discs and if the drive was able to recognize the disc we tried to extract the music tracks to the hard drive. First let us look at the discs we had available for this test:

 

Westlife: World of our own is protected with Cactus data shield 100.

 

Natalie Imbruglias White lilies Island. This disc is protected with Cactus datashield 200

 

Shakira: Laundry service, which is protected with Key2Audio version 2.

 

And finally Celine Dion: A new day has come, that is protected with key2audio version 3

Results:

Protected
Audio

Protection version

Exact Audio Copy

Westlife:
World of our own

Cactus data shield 100

Reads the disc without any problems.

Natalie Imbruglia:
White lilies island

Cactus data shield 200

Reads the disc without any problems.

Shakira:
Laundry Service

Key2Audio version 2

Reads the disc without any problems.

Celine Dion:
A new day has come

Key2Audio version 3

Reads the disc without any problems.

The Lite-On LTC-48161H is one of the best drives when it comes to extracting the content of protected audio discs as it extracted all the discs without any problems.

Overburning:


 

To test the overburning capabilities of the Lite-On LTC-48161H we used the overburning test in Nero CD/DVD-Speed. According to Nero CD/DVD speed the drive can overburn to more than 99 minutes:

 

To make sure that it actually works we wrote a 99 minutes disc in Nero Burning ROM:

 

And the recording went successful as the above picture shows.

And then we tested the readability of the disc in Nero CD/DVD Speed:

 

The drive got some problems at the end but was still able to read the whole disc. Just as a second test we tested the quality of the disc in K-probe:

 

Definitively seems like there was a reason to the slowdown in CD-Speed. The error count went sky-high at about 83 minutes, exactly the same place where the drive slowed down. It's a problem that we are aware of and is not caused by the drive but is caused by our RiTEK 99 minute discs as well as the nature of 99 minute discs which is well outside the standards.

Now, that concludes our Lite-On LTC-48161H review, head on to the last page to read our conclusion…

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Reactions on this item
Very good article I must say!
Great test !!!!!!
Very good the Advanced tests page is superb with all the copyprotections, even the
less used protections like Té¢ges,CD Cops
and the new SD2.9 !!!!!
Only missing is SF3 - I know it is hard to find a progam with this protections ;-)
Just be happy that I found tagé¨s and cd-cops protected discs :D
hey for the Blindwrite tests of SD2.8 and SD2.9 what were the Blindwrite configuration...meaning did you have "autoplay enabled???" or "enhance weak sectors??"" if not then this is the drive for SD2.9 without software enhancements:B
OOps, forgot to mention that in the review.

Autoplay: DISABLED!!!
Enhance Weak sectors: DISABLED!!!

Backup works perfect, even in picky readers as the Toshiba SD-M1502.
Could you add those new game tests to the review of Plextor PX-708A (DVD±RW)? I would love to know if it could handle the newer safedisc 2.9 and newer securom.

Fantastic review BTW. One of the best I've seen.
OC-Freak did test that and the information is available on the Plextor Forum. Here's a quote from what OC-Freak e-mailed me a while ago:

Tried blindwrite 4.5.7 today.

The sims: superstar - backup works in most drives (Lite-On LTD-165H and some others) but not in my default and picky test unit: Toshiba SD-M1502.

A perfect backup should work in the toshiba ;)

GTA: Vice city do still not work at all.
sd2.9040 is for SURE a no go with this combo drive
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