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DVD Writing Performance
 

The specifications of this drive tell us that it should write DVD-R discs at 8x and DVD+R discs at 8X speed. In this part we will measure the write time for various types of DVD-/+R discs. We do also focus on write quality and media compatibility.

DVD-Writing performance:


In this test we will measure the time for writing to DVD-R and DVD+R discs. We used Nero burning Rom to set up a new UDF/ISO compilation containing 4482Mb of data, and started the write process. We used the Disc-At-Once write method.


DVD+R


DVD-R

Note: The 8x DVD-R test is done with a modified firmware and 4x media, as we do not yet have any 8x certified DVD-R media.

The DVD+R disc was written in 8 minutes and 40 seconds, while the DVD-R disc was written in 9 minutes and 29 seconds.

Write DVD data discs

DVD+R

DVD-R

Plextor
PX-708A

8m 01s

14m 57s
(4x speed)

NEC
ND-2500A

9m 34s

9m 30s

Lite-On
LDW-811S

8m 43s

15m 07s
 (4x speed)

Pioneer
DVR-107D

8m 45s

8m 27s

NU
DDW-082

8m 02s

14m 26s
 (4x speed)

Lite-On
SOHW-812S

8m 40s

9m 29s

The Lite-On SOHW-812S is not the fastest and not the slowest writer at 8x with DVD+R discs, but for DVD-R it gets the last place along with the NEC ND-2500A. But writing quality is even more important, so let us take a look at the media compatibility and write quality.

Write quality:


You should first notice that this is not a scientific and professional way to test the discs. But according to our testing done in recent months, we would conclude that there is a clear link between the quality reported when scanning the disc and the playability of the disc in different devices. Also notice that different drives report different amounts of errors. K-Probe was designed to work with Lite-On DVD-Writers. So we recommend using a DVD-Writer from Lite-On, in this test we use a Lite-On SOHW-812S DVD-Writer, as already said; remember that scans done with a Lite-On DVD-ROM or Lite-On combo drive can't be compared with the results obtained with a Lite-On DVD-Writer. Also remember that different PI/PO ECC sum settings along with different reading speeds in K-Probe will affect the result, we use these settings; PI/PO (Parity Inner/Parity Outer) Sum: 8 ECC, reading speed: 4X CLV (Constant Linear Velocity). Since ECC sum is set to 8 we will now call the errors PI-8 and PO-8 errors.

But what is a good scan? That is a discussion that we don't think will end soon, as different drives report different amount of errors, some players is more picky about media than others, and so on. But as a comparison we present you with a scan from two pressed DVD discs:


This scan shows the results from a pressed DVD-ROM disc (Baldurs Gate DVD-ROM).

 

This scan shows the result from a pressed DVD-Video disk (Indiana Jones and the last crusade). Notice that only the first layer is scanned.

If you read below you will see that both the pressed DVD-discs are well within the standards.

Download the ECMA 267 Standard for DVD-ROM, the ECMA 337 Standard for DVD+R/RW and the ECMA 338 Standard for DVD-R/RW at http://www.ecma-international.org if you want to look at the standards for yourself. Here is some data from the ECMA standards (same for DVD-ROM, DVD-R/RW and DVD+R/RW):

Random errors:

A row of an ECC Block that has at least 1 byte in error constitutes a PI error. In any 8
consecutive ECC Blocks the total number of PI errors before correction shall not exceed 280.

Here we see what a PI error is defined as a row in an ECC block having 1 byte or more containing errors. And that the sum of PI errors in 8 ECC blocks after each other should not exceed 280 PI errors.

But what is a row and what is an ECC block? Again we refer to the ECMA standards. We do not copy and paste everything but if interested look in the ECMA standards. A row is 182 bytes long where the last 10 bytes contain PI (Parity Inner) information. An ECC block is 208 rows long where the last 16 rows contain the PO (Parity Outer) information. This gives us a maximum possible PI error amount of 208 errors per block and for 8 blocks after each other this sum is of course 8 times higher giving a maximum possible amount of 1664 PI-8 errors. In practical use a disc with 1664 PI-8 errors is unreadable.

According to our tests the specified max PI-8 sum of 280 for good discs seems to be a good guideline, as some readers have problems reading discs when the PI-8 errors is over 300 and most players starts to have problems when the PI-8 error level reaches 600 or more.

But what are the PO errors that K-Probe reports? Actually the PO errors that K-Probe reports is the Parity Inner uncorrectable errors, meaning errors left after PI correction. Only the ECMA 337 standard describes the Parity Inner uncorrectable errors. So how is a Parity Inner uncorrectable error defined? Here are what ECMA 337 states:

'If a row of an ECC Block as defined in 13.3 contains more than 5 erroneous bytes, the row is said to be 'PI-uncorrectable"."

In theory an ECC block may in the worst case have 208 PI uncorrectable errors since every ECC block is 208 rows long. But the ECMA 337 standard goes further and specifies the max amount of accepted PI uncorrectable errors allowed on a good disc:

'- In any ECC Block the number of PI-uncorrectable rows should not exceed 4."  

This is where K-Probe gives us problems as for PI errors it have to be set to a PI/PO sum of 8 ECC blocks to show results that compares to the standard, but for PI uncorrectable errors (Called PO in K-Probe) the PI/PO sum have to be set to a sum of 1 ECC block.

A guideline is to calculate the Parity Inner Uncorrectable errors to 8 ECC sum, which is max 32 (4 x 8) Parity Inner uncorrectable errors, but now we can't be sure if one of the 8 ECC blocks exceeds the specifications. But if the result exceeds 32 PI uncorrectable errors we know that at least one block have more than 4 PI uncorrectable errors.

But what makes a disc unreadable? A PO uncorrectable error will make the disc unreadable, but K-Probe does not display the PO uncorrectable errors.

Notice that there are other aspects such as disc reflectivity, jitter, tracking errors and so on that also will affect the readability of a DVD disc - but for this we do not have measuring equipment available.

And another note is that we have scanned the discs at 4X CLV speed, by lowering the speed to 2X(DVD-R/RW)/2.4X(DVD+R/RW) or 1X the amount of reported errors may drop on some discs. We scanned at 4X CLV due to lower speeds taking to much time.

To see if there is a connection between the reported amount of errors and readability of the discs we also include the reading curve from a JLMS XJ-HD165H DVD-ROM that seems to be pretty easy affected by the quality of a written disc.

Easier explanation on how to read the test results.


Maybe this got too technical, and you are wondering what to look for in Kprobe reports?

Use this as a guideline for good discs:

PI(Parity Inner): No larger areas on the disc should exceed 280 PI-8 errors, do not worry too much about high single spikes that exceed 280.
PO(Parity Outer): No larger areas on the disc should exceed 32 PO-8 (actually PI uncorrectable) errors, do not worry too much about high single spikes that exceed 32.

And as always; lower is better ;)

And look at the reading curve, a slight slowdown at the end is probably nothing to worry about, but huge bumps and slowdowns are not good.

DVD+R media compatibility and write quality:



 

Brand:

SKS Claudia

Manufacturer:

Ritek

Code:

RITEK R03 (Revision 001)

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

8x

Write Speed:

8x

Write Time:

8m:38s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

5.110

PI-8 uncorrectable errors(PO) Avg/Sec:

0.040

The Lite-On SOHW-812S did not have any problems writing this disc type and produced a very good disc. Notice that Ritek R03 media varies in quality, especially the revision 001 type, the newer revision 002 type is probably better.


 

Brand:

Verbatim DataLifePlus

Manufacturer:

Mitsubishi (Real Mitsubishi discs from Singapore )

Code:

MCC 003

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

8x

Write Speed:

8x

Write Time:

8m:36s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

0.968

PI-8 uncorrectable errors(PO) Avg/Sec:

0.025

Excellent, highly recommended media for this drive.


Brand:

Plextor

Manufacturer:

Taiyo Yuden

Code:

YUDEN000T01 (Revision 001)

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

4x

Write Speed:

8x

Write Time:

8m:40s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

2.105

PI-8 uncorrectable errors(PO) Avg/Sec:

0.322

Notice that the most common Taiyo Yuden 4x DVD+R revision 000 type only works at 4x, only the newer improved revision 001 works at 8x. The produced result is very good and we could easily recommend these discs for use with this drive.


Brand:

Verbatim Data Life Plus

Manufacturer:

Mitsubishi (Real Mitsubishi disc from Singapore )

Code:

MCC 002

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

4x

Write Speed:

4x

Write Time:

14m:48s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

22.666

PI-8 uncorrectable errors(PO) Avg/Sec:

0.095

Not the best result we have had with these discs, but still very good and highly recommended.


 

Brand:

Arita

Manufacturer:

Ricoh (by Ritek)

Code:

RICOHJPNR01

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

4x

Write Speed:

4x

Write Time:

14m:43s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

75.766

PI-8 uncorrectable errors(PO) Avg/Sec:

0.101

Not as good as we have seen with some other drives, but still within the standards and the reading curve showed no problems.


 

Brand:

Memorex

Manufacturer:

CMC Magnetics

Code:

CMC.MAG.F01 (revision 000)

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

4x

Write Speed:

4x

Write Time:

14m:47s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

11.478

PI-8 uncorrectable errors(PO) Avg/Sec:

0.038

Another good result, we could also recommend these discs. Notice that there is a newer revision 001 version of this media that should work at 8x, but we have been unable to find this media to test it.


 

Brand:

BenQ

Manufacturer:

Daxon

Code:

DAXON.AZ1

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

4x

Write Speed:

4x

Write Time:

14m:48s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

21.812

PI-8 uncorrectable errors(PO) Avg/Sec:

0.063

No problems here either, also discs that we could recommend without problems.


Brand:

BulkpaQ Generation 4

Manufacturer:

Unknown

Code:

MEDIA ID001

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

4x

Write Speed:

4x

Write Time:

14m:47s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

16.047

PI-8 uncorrectable errors(PO) Avg/Sec:

0.161

These discs are known to be low quality, but the result is still acceptable. But there were some slight reading problems, so these discs are still not among our first picks.


 

Brand:

BeALL

Manufacturer:

BeALL

Code:

BeAll000P40

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

4x

Write Speed:

4x

Write Time:

14m:44s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

191.705

PI-8 uncorrectable errors(PO) Avg/Sec:

1.179

We do not know what Lite-On have done, but the writing strategy with BeALL is not good. BeALL usually works much better than this so there is room for improvement, you should stay away from these discs if you have a LiteOn SOHW-812S.

To see if rather unknown media types are supported at certified speed we include the following table:

DVD+R
Brand

Manufacturer

Media code

Certified
Write
Speed

Supported
Write
Speed

Sky

Unknown

AML 002

8x

8x

Lite-On

Ricoh

RICOHJPNR02

8x

8x

Fortis

Nanya

NANYA.RJB

4x

4x

Norwaydisc.no

Nanya

NANYA.RJB

8x

4x

Unbranded

Unknown

PITSEXP 002

4x

4x

Unbranded

Unknown

AML 001

4x

4x

Unbranded

Unknown

IS01001

4x

4x

Unbranded

Unknown

VDSPMSAB001

4x

4x

Unbranded

Unknown

001

4x

4x

MMORE

Opto Disc

OPTODISCOR4

4x

4x

Only the Nanya 8x media were not supported at 8x, the rest were supported at certified speed without problems.

Head on to next page and read about DVD-R compatibility and write quality...

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