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| Posted by | Tor Magne |
| Posted on | 27/04/04 22:47 |
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The specifications of this drive tell us that it should write DVD-R discs at 8x and DVD+R discs at 8X speed. In this part we will measure the write time for various types of DVD-/+R discs. We do also focus on write quality and media compatibility.
DVD-Writing performance:
In this test we will measure the time for writing to DVD-R and DVD+R discs. We used Nero burning Rom to set up a new UDF/ISO compilation containing 4482Mb of data, and started the write process. We used the Disc-At-Once write method.

DVD+R

DVD-R
Note: The 8x DVD-R test is done with a modified firmware and 4x media, as we do not yet have any 8x certified DVD-R media.
The DVD+R disc was written in 8 minutes and 40 seconds, while the DVD-R disc was written in 9 minutes and 29 seconds.
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Write DVD data discs |
DVD+R |
DVD-R |
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Plextor
|
8m 01s |
14m 57s |
|
NEC
|
9m 34s |
9m 30s |
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Lite-On
|
8m 43s |
15m 07s |
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Pioneer
|
8m 45s |
8m 27s |
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NU
|
8m 02s |
14m 26s |
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Lite-On |
8m 40s |
9m 29s |
The Lite-On SOHW-812S is not the fastest and not the slowest writer at 8x with DVD+R discs, but for DVD-R it gets the last place along with the NEC ND-2500A. But writing quality is even more important, so let us take a look at the media compatibility and write quality.
Write quality:
You should first notice that this is not a scientific and professional way to test the discs. But according to our testing done in recent months, we would conclude that there is a clear link between the quality reported when scanning the disc and the playability of the disc in different devices. Also notice that different drives report different amounts of errors. K-Probe was designed to work with Lite-On DVD-Writers. So we recommend using a DVD-Writer from Lite-On, in this test we use a Lite-On SOHW-812S DVD-Writer, as already said; remember that scans done with a Lite-On DVD-ROM or Lite-On combo drive can't be compared with the results obtained with a Lite-On DVD-Writer. Also remember that different PI/PO ECC sum settings along with different reading speeds in K-Probe will affect the result, we use these settings; PI/PO (Parity Inner/Parity Outer) Sum: 8 ECC, reading speed: 4X CLV (Constant Linear Velocity). Since ECC sum is set to 8 we will now call the errors PI-8 and PO-8 errors.
But what is a good scan? That is a discussion that we don't think will end soon, as different drives report different amount of errors, some players is more picky about media than others, and so on. But as a comparison we present you with a scan from two pressed DVD discs:

This scan shows the results from a pressed DVD-ROM disc (Baldurs
Gate DVD-ROM).

This scan shows the result from a pressed DVD-Video disk (Indiana Jones and the last crusade). Notice that only the first layer is scanned.
If you read below you will see that both the pressed DVD-discs are well within the standards.
Download the ECMA 267 Standard for DVD-ROM, the ECMA 337 Standard for DVD+R/RW and the ECMA 338 Standard for DVD-R/RW at http://www.ecma-international.org if you want to look at the standards for yourself. Here is some data from the ECMA standards (same for DVD-ROM, DVD-R/RW and DVD+R/RW):
Random errors:
A row of an
ECC Block that has at least 1 byte in error constitutes a PI error. In any
8
consecutive ECC Blocks the total number of PI errors before correction
shall not exceed 280.
Here we see what a PI error is defined as a row in an ECC block having 1 byte or more containing errors. And that the sum of PI errors in 8 ECC blocks after each other should not exceed 280 PI errors.
But what is a row
and what is an ECC block? Again we refer to the ECMA standards. We do not copy
and paste everything but if interested look in the ECMA standards. A row is 182
bytes long where the last 10 bytes contain PI (Parity Inner)
information. An ECC block is 208 rows long where the last 16 rows contain the
According to our tests the specified max PI-8 sum of 280 for good discs seems to be a good guideline, as some readers have problems reading discs when the PI-8 errors is over 300 and most players starts to have problems when the PI-8 error level reaches 600 or more.
But what are the
'If a row of an ECC Block as defined in 13.3 contains more than 5 erroneous bytes, the row is said to be 'PI-uncorrectable"."
In theory an ECC block may in the worst case have 208 PI uncorrectable errors since every ECC block is 208 rows long. But the ECMA 337 standard goes further and specifies the max amount of accepted PI uncorrectable errors allowed on a good disc:
'- In any ECC Block the number of PI-uncorrectable rows should not exceed 4."
This is where K-Probe gives us problems as for PI errors it have to be set to a PI/PO sum of 8 ECC blocks to show results that compares to the standard, but for PI uncorrectable errors (Called PO in K-Probe) the PI/PO sum have to be set to a sum of 1 ECC block.
A guideline is to calculate the Parity Inner Uncorrectable errors to 8 ECC sum, which is max 32 (4 x 8) Parity Inner uncorrectable errors, but now we can't be sure if one of the 8 ECC blocks exceeds the specifications. But if the result exceeds 32 PI uncorrectable errors we know that at least one block have more than 4 PI uncorrectable errors.
But what makes a
disc unreadable? A PO uncorrectable error will make the disc unreadable, but
K-Probe does not display the
Notice that there are other aspects such as disc reflectivity, jitter, tracking errors and so on that also will affect the readability of a DVD disc - but for this we do not have measuring equipment available.
And another note is that we have scanned the discs at 4X CLV speed, by lowering the speed to 2X(DVD-R/RW)/2.4X(DVD+R/RW) or 1X the amount of reported errors may drop on some discs. We scanned at 4X CLV due to lower speeds taking to much time.
To see if there is a connection between the reported amount of errors and readability of the discs we also include the reading curve from a JLMS XJ-HD165H DVD-ROM that seems to be pretty easy affected by the quality of a written disc.
Easier
explanation on how to read the test results.
Maybe this got too technical, and you are wondering what to look for in Kprobe reports?
Use this as a guideline for good discs:
PI(Parity
Inner): No larger areas on
the disc should exceed 280 PI-8 errors, do not worry too much about high single
spikes that exceed 280.
And as always; lower is better ;)
And look at the reading curve, a slight slowdown at the end is probably nothing to worry about, but huge bumps and slowdowns are not good.
DVD+R media compatibility and write quality:


|
Brand: |
SKS Claudia |
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Manufacturer: |
Ritek |
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Code: |
RITEK R03 (Revision 001) |
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Disc Type: |
DVD+R |
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Capacity: |
4483MB |
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Certified Speed: |
8x |
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Write Speed: |
8x |
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Write Time: |
8m:38s |
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PI-8 errors Average/Sec: |
5.110 |
|
PI-8
uncorrectable errors( |
0.040 |
The Lite-On SOHW-812S did not have any problems writing this disc type and produced a very good disc. Notice that Ritek R03 media varies in quality, especially the revision 001 type, the newer revision 002 type is probably better.


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Brand: |
Verbatim DataLifePlus |
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Manufacturer: |
Mitsubishi (Real Mitsubishi
discs from |
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Code: |
MCC 003 |
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Disc Type: |
DVD+R |
|
Capacity: |
4483MB |
|
Certified Speed: |
8x |
|
Write Speed: |
8x |
|
Write Time: |
8m:36s |
|
PI-8 errors Average/Sec: |
0.968 |
|
PI-8
uncorrectable errors( |
0.025 |
Excellent, highly recommended media for this drive.


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Brand: |
Plextor |
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Manufacturer: |
Taiyo Yuden |
|
Code: |
YUDEN000T01 (Revision 001) |
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Disc Type: |
DVD+R |
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Capacity: |
4483MB |
|
Certified Speed: |
4x |
|
Write Speed: |
8x |
|
Write Time: |
8m:40s |
|
PI-8 errors Average/Sec: |
2.105 |
|
PI-8
uncorrectable errors( |
0.322 |
Notice that the most common Taiyo Yuden 4x DVD+R revision 000 type only works at 4x, only the newer improved revision 001 works at 8x. The produced result is very good and we could easily recommend these discs for use with this drive.


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Brand: |
Verbatim Data Life Plus |
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Manufacturer: |
Mitsubishi (Real Mitsubishi
disc from |
|
Code: |
MCC 002 |
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Disc Type: |
DVD+R |
|
Capacity: |
4483MB |
|
Certified Speed: |
4x |
|
Write Speed: |
4x |
|
Write Time: |
14m:48s |
|
PI-8 errors Average/Sec: |
22.666 |
|
PI-8
uncorrectable errors( |
0.095 |
Not the best result we have had with these discs, but still very good and highly recommended.


|
Brand: |
Arita |
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Manufacturer: |
Ricoh (by Ritek) |
|
Code: |
RICOHJPNR01 |
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Disc Type: |
DVD+R |
|
Capacity: |
4483MB |
|
Certified Speed: |
4x |
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Write Speed: |
4x |
|
Write Time: |
14m:43s |
|
PI-8 errors Average/Sec: |
75.766 |
|
PI-8
uncorrectable errors( |
0.101 |
Not as good as we have seen with some other drives, but still within the standards and the reading curve showed no problems.


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Brand: |
Memorex |
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Manufacturer: |
CMC Magnetics |
|
Code: |
CMC.MAG.F01 (revision 000) |
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Disc Type: |
DVD+R |
|
Capacity: |
4483MB |
|
Certified Speed: |
4x |
|
Write Speed: |
4x |
|
Write Time: |
14m:47s |
|
PI-8 errors Average/Sec: |
11.478 |
|
PI-8
uncorrectable errors( |
0.038 |
Another good result, we could also recommend these discs. Notice that there is a newer revision 001 version of this media that should work at 8x, but we have been unable to find this media to test it.


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Brand: |
BenQ |
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Manufacturer: |
Daxon |
|
Code: |
DAXON.AZ1 |
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Disc Type: |
DVD+R |
|
Capacity: |
4483MB |
|
Certified Speed: |
4x |
|
Write Speed: |
4x |
|
Write Time: |
14m:48s |
|
PI-8 errors Average/Sec: |
21.812 |
|
PI-8
uncorrectable errors( |
0.063 |
No problems here either, also discs that we could recommend without problems.


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Brand: |
BulkpaQ Generation 4 |
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Manufacturer: |
Unknown |
|
Code: |
MEDIA ID001 |
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Disc Type: |
DVD+R |
|
Capacity: |
4483MB |
|
Certified Speed: |
4x |
|
Write Speed: |
4x |
|
Write Time: |
14m:47s |
|
PI-8 errors Average/Sec: |
16.047 |
|
PI-8
uncorrectable errors( |
0.161 |
These discs are known to be low quality, but the result is still acceptable. But there were some slight reading problems, so these discs are still not among our first picks.


|
Brand: |
BeALL |
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Manufacturer: |
BeALL |
|
Code: |
BeAll000P40 |
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Disc Type: |
DVD+R |
|
Capacity: |
4483MB |
|
Certified Speed: |
4x |
|
Write Speed: |
4x |
|
Write Time: |
14m:44s |
|
PI-8 errors Average/Sec: |
191.705 |
|
PI-8
uncorrectable errors( |
1.179 |
We do not know what Lite-On have done, but the writing strategy with BeALL is not good. BeALL usually works much better than this so there is room for improvement, you should stay away from these discs if you have a LiteOn SOHW-812S.
To see if rather unknown media types are supported at certified speed we include the following table:
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DVD+R |
Manufacturer |
Media code |
Certified |
Supported |
|
Sky |
Unknown |
AML 002 |
8x |
8x |
|
Lite-On |
Ricoh |
RICOHJPNR02 |
8x |
8x |
|
Fortis |
Nanya |
NANYA.RJB |
4x |
4x |
|
Norwaydisc.no |
Nanya |
NANYA.RJB |
8x |
4x |
|
Unbranded |
Unknown |
PITSEXP 002 |
4x |
4x |
|
Unbranded |
Unknown |
AML 001 |
4x |
4x |
|
Unbranded |
Unknown |
IS01001 |
4x |
4x |
|
Unbranded |
Unknown |
VDSPMSAB001 |
4x |
4x |
|
Unbranded |
Unknown |
001 |
4x |
4x |
|
MMORE |
Opto Disc |
OPTODISCOR4 |
4x |
4x |
Only the Nanya 8x media were not supported at 8x, the rest were supported at certified speed without problems.
Head on to next page and read about DVD-R compatibility and write quality...
CD-Writing Performance
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