LiteON 24/10/40 IDE
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| Posted on | 06/12/01 23:43 |
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Audio read performance:
To test the audio performance we downloaded EAC. This utility enable accurate audio grabbing and reliable conversions. You can download it at http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/.
One good thing about EAC is the integrated drive detector to detect the various features of your drive.
De EThe EAC interface - Simple and accurate.
We select drive Options to optimize our writer and to detect the options...
Extraction methode
The detected functions of the LiteOn 24/10/40 IDE
We are going a little deeper into these properties:
- Caching: If your drive caches the audio that was just read, it would be a problem to read this data again in order to compare both extractions to find out if they match. In that case this option has to be enabled, so that EAC will clear the cache by overreading it.
- Accurate stream: This option should be set if your drive has an accurate stream , meaning that it won't jitter, thus no jitter correction has to be performed anymore.
- C2 error info: Some newer drives are able to return C2 error information besides the actual audio data. In this case EAC doesn't need to read all data twice anymore, wich will result in an increased speed.
The LiteOn returns C2 error information according to the build in testprocedure...
Here we see the new LiteOn ideal settings for audio grabbing using EAC
The drive's read commando's
Because in the beginning there was no real drive-standard, most manufacturors used their own commands to read audiodata from CD's. Due to this fact EAC knows many read commands and has a build in detection system to select the appropriate command for each drive.
The drive detection methode told us that the LiteOn 24/10/40 uses the "read command MMC1".
Offset/speed
We did the 'detect sample offset correction' after creating a test CD for this feature. If we want to find an exact location on an audioCD it isn't that simple as a normal data CD. Due to the lack of some extra data to calculate the exact position on an audioCD it is not possible to go to a predefined position. It will only be in the area of that position. Usually it is a few samples before or after that position. With the offset correction you are much more accurate in locating the exact position.
The offset value of the LiteOn 24/10/40 is +6
De detect read sample offset positie gave +6
The selection of 'allow speed reduction during extraction' helps a lot when there are various errors on the CD.
Finally we select the CD-Text function. The folowing preferences were also detected:
UPC/ISRC en CD-text support...
Let's go to the actual audio-extraction test...
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Posted by roadworker on Saturday 08 December 2001 14:50
The recommanded settings to read sd2 don't work fine for the Litey,that's why the reading time is so bad.
If you set read retries on another value than"0" and error correction"none",CloneCd changes this setting without notifying you to"hardware"
I don't know if this is a limitation of the Litey,or a CloneCd bug,you can verify this by aborting the read and going straight to the error correction settings tab.....You'll find the setting "hardware" as parameter...
Also the Litey is not capable to extract or copy Cactus Data Shield protected audiocd's
I have 1 myself,but would definitely going for the Plex if I knew this earlier...I've tested it under all available firmware,no luck yet...
If you set read retries on another value than"0" and error correction"none",CloneCd changes this setting without notifying you to"hardware"
I don't know if this is a limitation of the Litey,or a CloneCd bug,you can verify this by aborting the read and going straight to the error correction settings tab.....You'll find the setting "hardware" as parameter...
Also the Litey is not capable to extract or copy Cactus Data Shield protected audiocd's
I have 1 myself,but would definitely going for the Plex if I knew this earlier...I've tested it under all available firmware,no luck yet...
This Drive is absolutly SUPERB!! It Easily deserves the 94.5% rating. Ive had it for about 3 months now and its been nothing short of Brilliant. Because its sooo fast i dont shy away from burning, nor do i have to because no matter what i do, i cant seem to burn a bad disk !! It cost me £104 GPB. At that time the Plextor was around £160 GPB. Check out www.e-buyer.com where the drive is now priced at £79.98 GBP !!! BARGAIN OR WHAT?
I simply LOVE this drive, iv'e burned 'bout 100 disks with it now using 16x media(@24x] and not one coaster.
The one thing i dont get about the review is the "makes noise" under "what's not so good"...WHAT n o i s e??? I definitely do not have a problem with the dB of this drive and i have tried a few... And what about the "not integrated cooler"???
My guess would be that the drive is designed not to have a "inegrated cooler" and will probably work just fine for many years without it, and if it did have a "integrated cooler" it would probably make a hell of a lot more "noise" then it does without it. . .
The one thing i dont get about the review is the "makes noise" under "what's not so good"...WHAT n o i s e??? I definitely do not have a problem with the dB of this drive and i have tried a few... And what about the "not integrated cooler"???
My guess would be that the drive is designed not to have a "inegrated cooler" and will probably work just fine for many years without it, and if it did have a "integrated cooler" it would probably make a hell of a lot more "noise" then it does without it. . .
Posted by karaokebabe1999 on Wednesday 12 December 2001 05:33
I love it. Other than not figuring out how to burn CD+G(karaoke) CD's yet, I have had no problem with this burner. And I definately have not heard any noise. If anything would happen to this burner I purchase another one just like it.
I just bought a CenDyne 24x10x40 CDRW:4 and I found out in the device manager it is listed as a Lite-On LTR-24102B
; It also looks the same but without the blue Lite-On logo or sticker on the tray and as described in this article, it makes noise, has 99min overburn, and is slow when using CloneCD (Reading & DAE extraction) ...This is a Lite-On product but why is it being distributed by CenDyne? :7
; It also looks the same but without the blue Lite-On logo or sticker on the tray and as described in this article, it makes noise, has 99min overburn, and is slow when using CloneCD (Reading & DAE extraction) ...This is a Lite-On product but why is it being distributed by CenDyne? :7I love this drive. Quiet, fast as hell, and I can multitask without any errors. One problem.. Windows XP doesn't recognize it as a cd burner. It says it does but wont show up in Media Player as a device. This really sucks being that media player has got a great setup for automatically uncompressing and burning just about any audio file format. Nero is okay, but not nearly as simple and it doesnt accept .wma files. If anyone has a workaround, please post it! Thanks
Posted by NightHawk on Thursday 20 December 2001 15:24
Thanks Stevieb for a really informative review.
I WANT ONE :4
I WANT ONE :4
I switched from yamaha cd writers to plextor long time ago..then a friend of mine ( a year ago or so.. i don't remember well ) asked me if I wanted to try this Lite On It cd burner. I nevere heard of it at that time but I was curious and so I surfed to www.cdrlabs.com and I carefully read thier hardware reviews regarding plextor and lite on it and i compared them always from a "price" point of view. Convinced about the good quality of lite on it writers I bought one and damn ! I love this brand now !!! They are cheap but they are hig hig quality and I tell you more : I had a 12 10 32 and yes everything was perfect except DAE speed was fixed at 10.5 x ( probably CAV technology ) . Yesterday I bought a 24 10 40 and you know what ? It is really quiet ( even if a bit less quiet compared to the 12 10 32 ) , who cares about the cooling fan ? ( who needs it anymore ? new technology..less heat ... ) and DAE is absolutely superb !! I got a 35.7 dae at the center of the cd ! Strangely it fall down to 20x at the edge of the disc ! Anyway .. I saw on lite on it web site that they've just released a 32 x writers !! I 'll wait 'till it arrives in Italy ! Ciao
ps.. Lite On kicks Plextor butt !
ps.. Lite On kicks Plextor butt !
And..something more..may be a bit out of topic ..
Just like Lite On It writers that cost a lot less and gives you a lot more ( and 99% of my friends who use Plextor they don't even know about Lite On writers..damn ignorance ) also when it comes to Cellular Mobile Phones I realized that we pay the brand and not the technology inside the phone. In italy everyone seems to be crazy for Nokia phones.. they cost a lot compared to the thing they give you.. but , anyway , I always had a look for alternative brands ( I own a Philips XENIUM 989 phone with a litium 900 mah battery capable of 550 hours standby new world record but anyway this is not everything ) . Some time ago I've found a french brand called SAGEM and damn they are good and CHEAP.. and when I say CHEAP I mean CHEAP ! I bought a SAGEM MW930 with a 300 hours stand by battery , WAP internet access , T9 easy Script , customizable ( internet downloadable ) ring tones for 28 us $ !!!! NOKIA 3330 has the same features , it weights a lot more , has less stand by time and cost around 135 us $ !!! Can you see the bargain ?
Bye
Just like Lite On It writers that cost a lot less and gives you a lot more ( and 99% of my friends who use Plextor they don't even know about Lite On writers..damn ignorance ) also when it comes to Cellular Mobile Phones I realized that we pay the brand and not the technology inside the phone. In italy everyone seems to be crazy for Nokia phones.. they cost a lot compared to the thing they give you.. but , anyway , I always had a look for alternative brands ( I own a Philips XENIUM 989 phone with a litium 900 mah battery capable of 550 hours standby new world record but anyway this is not everything ) . Some time ago I've found a french brand called SAGEM and damn they are good and CHEAP.. and when I say CHEAP I mean CHEAP ! I bought a SAGEM MW930 with a 300 hours stand by battery , WAP internet access , T9 easy Script , customizable ( internet downloadable ) ring tones for 28 us $ !!!! NOKIA 3330 has the same features , it weights a lot more , has less stand by time and cost around 135 us $ !!! Can you see the bargain ?
Bye
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Plextor writers fail at 92 min .. Lite On It writes 99 min cd perfectly !
Plextor writers fail at 92 min .. Lite On It writes 99 min cd perfectly !
Posted by the111 on Sunday 23 December 2001 18:45
I just got one of these things (£80 GBP including delivery from ebuyer.com). What do you mean it reads SD2 slowly? You call 4 minutes slow? (Fast error skip, all other options unchecked, hardware error correction). It doesn't make any noise either, and seems to make much more reliable burns than my last drive (a Creative one). Seems PERFECT, can't imagine anything better (except the 32x model ). BUY THIS THING!!!
). BUY THIS THING!!!Posted by timbo on Wednesday 09 January 2002 20:54
This drive is my first burner. I've had no problems from installation to backing up protected CDs.
Audio backup quality is excellent.
The drive is quiet and seems very quick, I spend more time waitig for the read to be completed than the write. Definately better to copy without using "on the fly".
One quibble, no detailed manual for Nero (quick guide can be downloaded).:4
Audio backup quality is excellent.
The drive is quiet and seems very quick, I spend more time waitig for the read to be completed than the write. Definately better to copy without using "on the fly".
One quibble, no detailed manual for Nero (quick guide can be downloaded).:4
Reaction by jasonrocks on Sunday 16 December 2001... You can download .wma plugin for nero @ ahead site... :4
Posted by clawso1 on Friday 18 January 2002 07:02
Certainly hope you who have the liteOn drive don't need any tech support, because you won't get it! :4
Posted by clawso1 on Friday 18 January 2002 07:05
Hope you LiteOn folks don't need any Tech support, because you certainly won't get! :4
I love the LTR-24102b! It is fairly quiet, it makes a working backup of everything, it is fast enough for most and it extracts protected cd's very quick if you use HARDWARE for FAST ERROR SKIP in CloneCD. It is much cheaper than the Plextor and does the same job unless you absolutely must backup that cd 30 seconds faster than everyone else. But frankly, I am not that fussy. Buy now! :8
I just got a Dell system that came with a Lieon 24102M. What is the difference between the "b" and the "m" model. Is it just a defferent designation because it is OEM ?
Well the only thing I did to make this even better is FIREWIRE. Yes I found an IDE to firewire converter and I can do anything and burn a cd in 4mins. Quiet, reliable and FAST!!!
Posted by Domino on Monday 04 February 2002 21:50
This drive is the one to get!!!!!!!!!! Easy on the wallet and bulldozes all copy protections. This is a no brainer purchase.
Bulldozes WHAT?
This burner is totally useless for reading Cactus Data Shield CD's (even older CDS100 ones!) with NAY program, if I did not have an Ultraplex 40TSi as well to get out of this stalemate I would have already trashed it.
This burner is totally useless for reading Cactus Data Shield CD's (even older CDS100 ones!) with NAY program, if I did not have an Ultraplex 40TSi as well to get out of this stalemate I would have already trashed it.
Posted by macka on Sunday 10 February 2002 08:43
disappointed cause it cant burn safedisc v2.51
and it wont let me update to the latest firmware.
and it wont let me update to the latest firmware.
Posted by Rand on Sunday 17 February 2002 21:14
Do you guys think or have you tried if the Lite-On 32x12x40 can produce the same overburn results?
This thing is awesome. What noise. Its very fast and ive burnt alot of CDR's flawlessly. Great buy. The major problem is with XP. I used nero and it or I have problems burning audio CD's. It burns CDA instead of audio CD's but ive had the same problem with nero with another computer. And Adaptec 5.0 platnium fully upgraded with the Xp upgrade does Not Work. USE RecordMaxNow. It works perfectly with XP and you Can get the Hack if you know where to go.
I have tried to overburn a 720 mb compilation on to 866mb discs with the liteon and Nero 5551. I have adjusted the settings under "preferences" and hit the DAO button but I cannot get the media accepted as more than 703 mb, and Nero keeps kicking me out stating the disc is not big enough. Any suggestions as to how I can proceed??
If you check the overburn box it will still say the cd is too small - then after about 5 seconds a second box appears which gives you an overburn option. (this box appears just before during the burning process itself begins).
Posted by G@M3FR3@K on Tuesday 07 October 2003 14:22
Yes, this is because the SlySoft company (responsible for AnyDVD) will be distributing CloneCD online. As of yet a new CloneCD version is not available but when it does it will be put on the SlySoft website. This was done because of a new German law which makes it illegal for Elby to distribute CloneCD via their own website. More information can be read [url=http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/7984]here[/url].
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