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CD R/RW Writing performance
 

The specifications of the MSI DR8-A2 state that the drive is able to write CD-R discs at 40x. Let us find out how the drive really performs in speed and quality.

Writing Data CD-R discs:


 

 

Let us first take a look at the CD-R write technology used by the MSI DR8-A2:

 

As we could see the MSI DR8-A2 uses CAV (Constant Angular Velocity) to write at its rated speed of 40x. This gives an average speed of 31.45x. Seems to be about average for 40x recorders. Two drives for comparison is found below.

 

The NEC ND-2500A uses Z-CLV, (Zone-Constant Linear Velocity), to write at its maximum speed of 32X. The drive wrote the last zone at 32X and this gives an average speed of 27.16x.

 

As we could see the Plextor PX-708A uses P-CAV (Partial-Constant Angular Velocity) writing strategy to reach it rated speed of 40X. This gives an average speed of 33.38x.

And as a last test we wrote a disc containing 700Mb using Nero Burning ROM software. Writing method used is DAO (Disc At Once), and the disc is set up as a non-multisession disc with 'finalize disc" enabled.

 

The MSI DR8-A2 used 3 minutes and 13 second to write the disc at 40x. Let us see how this compares to other drives;

CD-R
Disc
Writing

 

 

Supported
Write
Speed

 

 

Write
Strategy

 

 

Start
Write
Speed

 

 

End
Write
 Speed

 

 

Average
 Write 
Speed

 

 

Write
 Time 
700Mb
CD-Speed

 

 

Write
Time
700Mb
Nero

 

 

Plextor
PX-708A

 

 

40x

 

 

P-CAV

 

 

20.37x

 

 

39.90x

 

 

33.38x

 

 

2m:55s

 

 

2m:58s

 

 

NEC
ND-2500A

 

 

32x

 

 

Z-CLV
5 zones

 

 

16.01x

 

 

32.05x

 

 

27.16x

 

 

3m:34s

 

 

3m:43s

 

 

Pioneer
DVR-107D

 

 

24x

 

 

Z-CLV
3 zones

 

 

16.05x

 

 

24.38x

 

 

22.47x

 

 

4m:18s

 

 

4m:21s

 

 

NU
DDW-082

 

 

40x

 

 

CAV

 

 

18.20x

 

 

41.11x

 

 

31.15x

 

 

3m:01s

 

 

3m:2s

 

 

Lite-On
SOHW-812S

 

 

40x

 

 

CAV

 

 

18.60x

 

 

41.78x

 

 

31.67x

 

 

3m:01s

 

 

3m:3s

 

 

BenQ
DW822A

 

 

24x

 

 

P-CAV

 

 

14.77x

 

 

24.39x

 

 

22.92x

 

 

4m:00s

 

 

4m:3s

 

 

BTC
DRW1108IM

 

 

40x

 

 

CAV

 

 

18.86x

 

 

42.44x

 

 

32.16x

 

 

3m:03s

 

 

3m:5s

 

 

Philips
DVDRW885

 

 

24x

 

 

P-CAV

 

 

13.43x

 

 

24.55x

 

 

23.05x

 

 

3m:59s

 

 

4m:1s

 

 

MSI
DR8-A2

 

 

40x

 

 

CAV

 

 

18.45x

 

 

41.47x

 

 

31.45x

 

 

3m:9s

 

 

3m:13s

 

 

The MSI DR8-A2 is a few seconds slower than the other 40x writers, but we guess you could wait those extra few seconds?

Write Quality:


 

 

We will test CD-R discs from a total of 7 different CD-R manufacturers. To really measure the write speed, we used the 'create data CD" function in Nero CD-Speed. The discs were written at the maximum speed that the drive supports. For the quality test, we used K-Probe 2 which is a tool developed by a Lite-On Employee. It runs under Windows and works with drives made by Lite-On. Also note that different drives and different reading speeds may affect the results obtained when scanning the discs. We used a Lite-On LTR-52246S drive with firmware 6S0F and scanned the discs at 48X speed.

A written CD-R disc will always have some C1 errors; C1 errors are easily corrected by the drive's error correction capabilities. The next level of errors is C2, while C2 errors could also be corrected by most drive's error correction capabilities; they are not wanted on a good quality disc. A good disc should not contain any C2 errors, and preferably have an average C1 error amount of below 2.0 for the best discs, or at least below 10.0 average for good quality discs. After C2 errors there are only un-correctable errors that will make a disc unusable.

Why wait any longer? Below are the obtained results:

 

Brand:

Memorex, thanks to Memorex for providing it.

Manufacturer:

CMC Magnetics

Code:

97m26s66f

Disc Type:

CD-R

Recording Layer:

Dye Type 6: Short Strategy (Phthalocyanine)

Capacity:

79:59.73 (703MB)

Certified Speed:

48x

Write Speed:

40x

Write Time:

3m:13s

C1 Average/Sec:

0.95

C2 Average/Sec:

0.0

CMC Magnetics is not known for making the best CD-R discs but the MSI DR8-A2 performed very good with them.

 

Brand:

MMORE

Manufacturer:

Moser Baer India

Code:

97m17s06f

Disc Type:

CD-R

Recording Layer:

Dye Type 6: Short Strategy (Phthalocyanine)

Capacity:

79:59.74 (703MB)

Certified Speed:

52x

Write Speed:

40x (slowed down to 32x near the end)

Write Time:

3m:17s

C1 Average/Sec:

1.23

C2 Average/Sec:

0.0

Very good, should not cause you any trouble.

 

Brand:

Verbatim Data Life Plus

Manufacturer:

Mitsubishi

Code:

97m34s23f

Disc Type:

CD-R

Recording Layer:

Dye Type 3: Long Strategy (Cyanine or AZO)

Capacity:

79:59.73 (703MB)

Certified Speed:

48x

Write Speed:

40x '? but slowed down to 32x near the end

Write Time:

3m:23s

C1 Average/Sec:

0.92

C2 Average/Sec:

0.0

No problems here either.

 

Brand:

That's Write - Thanks to That's Write for providing it.

Manufacturer:

Ritek (JS Dye)

Code:

97m15s17f

Disc Type:

CD-R

Recording Layer:

Dye Type 7: Short Strategy (Phthalocyanine)

Capacity:

79:59.70 (703MB)

Certified Speed:

48x

Write Speed:

40x '? but slowed down to 32x near the end

Write Time:

3m:18s

C1 Average/Sec:

1.49

C2 Average/Sec:

0.0

A bit high error level near the end, even a few C2 errors which is not so good.

 

Brand:

Miflop Extreme '? Thanks to Miflop for providing it

Manufacturer:

Taiyo Yuden

Code:

97m24s01f

Disc Type:

CD-R

Recording Layer:

Dye Type 1: Long Strategy (Cyanine or AZO)

Capacity:

79:59.72 (703MB)

Certified Speed:

48x

Write Speed:

40x

Write Time:

3m:09s

C1 Average/Sec:

2.69

C2 Average/Sec:

0.0

Pretty good, but we have definitively seen it better with TY media. But there is no reason to worry as the error level is still very low.

 

Brand:

Samsung

Manufacturer:

Prodisc

Code:

97m32s19f

Disc Type:

CD-R

Recording Layer:

Dye Type 9: Short Strategy (Phthalocyanine)

Capacity:

79:59.72 (703MB)

Certified Speed:

52x

Write Speed:

40x

Write Time:

3m:10s

C1 Average/Sec:

0.60

C2 Average/Sec:

0.0

Another very good result, we could easily recommend these discs.

 

Brand:

Samsung

Manufacturer:

Plasmon Data Systems, Ltd.

Code:

97m27s18f

Disc Type:

CD-R

Recording Layer:

Dye Type 8: Short Strategy (Phthalocyanine)

Capacity:

79:59.74 (703MB)

Certified Speed:

48x

Write Speed:

40x

Write Time:

3m:08s

C1 Average/Sec:

6.57

C2 Average/Sec:

0.0

We have found these Samsung CD-R discs, manufactured by Plasmon, to be of very low quality. And as we could see their C1 error count is a bit higher than for most other discs, but far from worryingly high, and there were no C2 errors. So all in all there should not be any problems in practical use.

CD-ReWritable:


 

 

The MSI DR8-A2 supports a CD ReWriting speed of 24x, let us see how this compares to other writers. Let us start with taking a look at the writing strategy it uses;

 

The MSI DR8-A2 uses P-CAV (Partial-Constant Angular Velocity) writing technology to write at 24X for CD-RW discs, the average speed is 23.49x. This again seems pretty average compared to other drives, below are some other drives for comparison.

 

The Pioneer DVR-107D uses Z-CLV, (Zone-Constant Linear Velocity), to write at its rated speed of 24x, this gives an average speed of 22.47x.

 

The Plextor PX-708A, with its P-CAV (Partial-Constant Angular Velocity) write speed of 24X for Ultra Speed CD-RW discs is among the faster writers due to its high starting speed of 20.01x.

And we did also write a disc in Nero Burning ROM, the compilation we made was 650Mb large and we wrote the disc with the Disc At Once write method.

 

The MSI DR8-A2 used 3 minutes and 50 seconds for writing the disc at 24x, let us compare this to some other writers;

CD-RW
Disc
Writing

Supported
Write
Speed

Write
Strategy

Start
Write
Speed

End
Write
 Speed

Average
 Write 
Speed

Write
 Time 
CD-Speed 80min

Write
Time
Nero
74min

Plextor
PX-708A

24x

P-CAV

20.01x

24.24x

23.77x

3m:41s

3m:39s

Lite-On
LDW-811S

24x

P-CAV

18.46x

23.94x

23.47x

3m:58s

3m:46s

NEC
ND-2500A

16x

CLV

16.02x

16.03x

16.02x

5m:28s

5m:12s

Pioneer
DVR-107D

24x

Z-CLV
3 zones

15.85x

24.30x

22.47x

4m:11s

4m:1s

NU
DDW-082

24x

P-CAV

18.21x

24.60x

23.47x

3m:47s

3m:33s

Lite-On
SOHW-812S

24x

Z-CLV
2 zones

16.04x

24.09x

22.63x

4m:00s

3m:49s

BenQ
DW822A

10x

CLV

9.95x

10.18x

9.92x

8m:33s

7m:58s

BTC
DRW1108IM

24x

P-CAV

18.74x

24.02x

23.56x

3m:54s

3m:42s

Philips
DVDRW885

10x

CLV

9.95x

10.20x

9.93x

8m:33s

7m:59s

MSI
DR8-A2

24x

P-CAV

18.30x

24.04x

23.43x

4m:03s

3m:50s

Again there is a few seconds between the MSI DR8-A2 and the fastest competitors, but nothing that should annoy you in practical use. Let us now take a look at the CD-ReWriting quality. We again used K-Probe and same testing procedure as with the CD-R discs.

 

Brand:

Verbatim Data Life Plus

Manufacturer:

CMC Magnetics, but with Mitsubishi dye and ATIP

Code:

97m34s24f

Disc Type:

US CD-RW

Recording Layer:

Dye Type 4: Long Strategy (Phase Change)

Capacity:

79:59.74 (703MB)

Certified Speed:

24x

Write Speed:

24x

Write Time:

3m:49s

C1 Average/Sec:

239.10

C2 Average/Sec:

0.13

The result is not that good; we have a nasty error spike at the beginning which may cause trouble. Room for improvement MSI!

 

Brand:

That's Write

Manufacturer:

Plasmon data systems

Code:

97m27s12f

Disc Type:

US CD-RW

Recording Layer:

Dye Type 2: Long Strategy (Phase Change)

Capacity:

74:41.00 (656MB)

Certified Speed:

24x

Write Speed:

24x

Write Time:

3m:40s

C1 Average/Sec:

825.50

C2 Average/Sec:

67.56

Low quality discs, and as we could see the amount of C1 errors is sky high and there is also a lot of C2 errors. Probably needless to say '? but the last part of the disc is unreadable.

Summary:
For CD-Writing it's pretty good and most discs written had a low amounts of errors, very good and it gets a plus in our book. But for CD-RW on the other side '? it get a minus in our book since both discs had too high error levels.

But after all, it's a DVD-Writer, so head on to next page and read about DVD-Writing performance and DVD media compatibility…

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Bought in 2005 the burner msi dr8-a2 , now using since may vista home premium 64 bit my burner doesnt burns cd but only dvd. Does it exist any driver 64 bit compatible ? please help i won´t throw my burner away...
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