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DVD+R/RW Writing performance
 

The specifications of this drive tell us that it should write DVD±R at 16x, DVD+RW at 8x, DVD-RW at 6x. In this part, we will measure the write time for various types of DVD+R/RW and DVD-R/RW discs. We will also focus on write quality and media compatibility.

DVD-Writing performance:


In this test we will measure the time for writing to DVD±R discs. We used Nero Burning Rom to burn an ISO compilation containing 4483Mb of data. We used the Disc-At-Once write method.

 


DVD+R


DVD-R

Look below for the results.

Write DVD data discs

DVD+R

DVD-R

Philips
DVDR1640P

5m:53s
(16x speed)

8m:31s
(8x speed)

BenQ
DW1620A

5m:50s
(16x speed)

6m:50s
(16x speed)

Pioneer
DVR-A08XLA

7m:03s
(12x speed)

6m:50s
(12x speed)

Samsung
TS-H552B

6m:33s
(16x speed)

7m:28s
(12x speed)

Mad Dog
MD-16xDVD9

6m:12s
(16x speed)

6m:05s
(16x speed)

Philips
ED16DVDR

7m:52s
(16x speed)

9m:55s
(8x speed)

AOpen
DUW1608/ARR

6m:49s
(16x speed)

9m:17s
(8x speed)

LG
GSA-4163B

5m:35s
(16x speed)

5m:22s
(16x speed)

Lite-On
SOHW-1653S

6m:03s
(16x speed)

7m:28a
(12x speed)

LG
GSA-5160D

6m:22s
(16x speed)

8m:16s
(8x speed)

ASUS
DRW-1604P

6m:33s
(16x speed)

6m:44s
(16x speed)

Samsung
TS-E552U

6m:40s
(16x speed)

N/A
(16x speed)

Mad Dog
MD-16XDVD9-8X

6m:10s
(16x speed)

5m:58s
(16x speed)


The Mad Dog MD-16XDVD9-8X uses a CAV write method that competes quite nicely compared with what we see from other drives. Let us see how the writing quality is.

Write quality:


You should first notice that this is not a scientific and professional way to test the discs. But according to our testing done in recent months, we would conclude that there is a clear link between the quality reported when scanning the disc and the playability of the disc in different devices. Also notice that different drives report different amounts of errors. K-Probe was designed to work with Lite-On DVD-Writers, so we recommend using a DVD-Writer from Lite-On. In this test we use a Lite-On SOHW-1693S DVD-Writer, as already said; remember that scans done with a Lite-On DVD-ROM or Lite-On combo drive can't be compared with the results obtained with a Lite-On DVD-Writer. Also remember that different PI/PO ECC sum settings along with different reading speeds in K-Probe will affect the result, we use these settings;  PI (Parity Inner) set to summarize 8 ECC blocks, PIF (Parity Inner Failures) set to summarize 1 ECC block, reading speed: 4X CLV (Constant Linear Velocity). Setting the PI sum to 8 and the PIF sum to 1 will give a result that we may compare to the standards for DVD+R/RW and DVD-R/RW.

But what is a good scan? That is a discussion that we don't think will end soon, as different drives report different amount of errors, some players are more picky about media than others, and so on. But as a comparison we present you with a scan from two pressed DVD discs:

This scan below shows the results from a pressed, Single Layer DVD-Video disc (Ronin DVD).

 

This next scan shows the result from a pressed Double Layer DVD-Video disc (Lord of the Rings, The Return of the King). Notice the error jump when shifting to the second layer (the error levels actually drop from the end of the first layer to the beginning of the second layer).

If you read below, you will see that both the pressed DVD-discs are well within the standards.

Download the ECMA 267 Standard for DVD-ROM, the ECMA 337 Standard for DVD+R/RW and the ECMA 338 Standard for DVD-R/RW at http://www.ecma-international.org if you want to look at the standards for yourself. Here is some data from the ECMA standards (same for DVD-ROM, DVD-R/RW and DVD+R/RW):

Random errors:

A row of an ECC Block that has at least 1 byte in error constitutes a PI error. In any 8 consecutive ECC Blocks the total number of PI errors before correction shall not exceed 280.

Here we see that a PI error is defined as a row in an ECC block having 1 byte or more containing errors and that the sum of PI errors in 8 ECC blocks after each other should not exceed 280 PI errors.

But what is a row and what is an ECC block? Again we refer to the ECMA standards. We do not copy and paste everything, but if you're interested, look in the ECMA standards. A row is 182 bytes long where the last 10 bytes contain PI (Parity Inner) information. An ECC block is 208 rows long where the last 16 rows contain the PO (Parity Outer) information. This gives us a maximum possible PI error amount of 208 errors per block and for 8 blocks after each other this sum is of course 8 times higher, giving a maximum possible amount of 1664 PI-8 errors. In practical use, a disc with 1664 PI-8 errors is unreadable.

According to our tests the specified max PI-8 sum of 280 for good discs seems to be a good guideline, as some readers have problems reading discs when the PI-8 errors is over 300 and most players starts to have problems when the PI-8 error level reaches 600 or more.

But what are the PIF errors that K-Probe reports? They are Parity Inner Failures, meaning errors left after PI correction. Only the ECMA 337 standard describes the Parity Inner Failures. So how is a Parity Inner Failure defined? Here is what the ECMA 337 states:

'If a row of an ECC Block as defined in 13.3 contains more than 5 erroneous bytes, the row is said to be 'PI-uncorrectable"."

In theory, an ECC block may in the worst case have 208 PIF since every ECC block is 208 rows long. But the ECMA 337 standard goes further and specifies the max amount of accepted PI Failures (uncorrectable errors) allowed on a good disc:

'In any ECC Block the number of PI-uncorrectable rows should not exceed 4."  

This means that when the PIF sum is set to 1, the maximum error value should not exceed 4. The theoretical maximum value for PIF is 208 errors.

But what makes a disc unreadable? A POF (Parity Outer Failure) error will make the disc unreadable, but K-Probe does not display the POF's.

Notice that there are other aspects such as disc reflectivity, jitter, tracking errors and so on that also will affect the readability of a DVD disc - but for this we do not have measuring equipment available.

Also, another note is that we have scanned the discs at 4X CLV speed, by lowering the speed to 2X(DVD-R/RW)/2.4X(DVD+R/RW) or 1X the amount of reported errors may drop on some discs. We scanned at 4X CLV due to lower speeds taking too much time.

To see if there is a connection between the reported amount of errors and readability of the discs we also include the reading curve from a BenQ DW1640. A small speed reduction near the end is still accepted on good discs, but serious reading problems or reading failures is a bad sign.

Also, we read the DVD+RW discs with the BenQ DW1640 also as this drive has a high read speed on RW media.

An easier explanation on how to read the test results.


Maybe this got too technical, and you are wondering what to look for in Kprobe reports?

Use this as a guideline for good discs:

         PI (Parity Inner): No larger areas on the disc should exceed 280 PI-8 errors, do not worry too much about high single spikes that exceed 280.

         PIF (Parity Inner Failures): No larger areas on the disc should exceed 4 PIF-1 errors, do not worry too much about high single spikes that exceed 4.

And as always; lower is better

And look at the reading curve; if it looks clean with no dips it should be good, a small slowdown near the end is accepted.

DVD+R media compatibility and write quality:


Ok, let's begin.





 

Brand:

Verbatim

Manufacturer:

Verbatim

Code:

MCC 004

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

16x

Write Speed:

16x

Write Time:

6m:07s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

0.53

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.03

Very nice, a few random PIF spikes but very low PIE total and the transfer curve looks excellent.





Brand:

Memorex

Manufacturer:

CMC Magnetics Corporation

Code:

CMCMAG M01

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

16x

Write Speed:

16x

Write Time:

6m:06s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

0.62

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.06

Again, a very nice burn also with the random PIF spikes. The transfer curve is of course perfect.





Brand:

Optodisc - Thanks to Optodisc for sending us this media.

Manufacturer:

Optodisc

Code:

OPTODISC R16

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

16x

Write Speed:

This MID reached 13x at 2.5G and dropped to 6x for remainder

Write Time:

8m:13s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

0.35

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.07

You first notice the PI/PIF glitch on this disc that caused the drives Active OPC to slow the burn speed. Nice save!



Brand:

Memorex

Manufacturer:

Ritek

Code:

RICOHJPN R03

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

16x

Write Speed:

16x

Write Time:

6m:25s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

1.44

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.01

Very nice. A bit of a PI rise at the end but doesn't affect the transfer curve. Very low PIF total.



Brand:

Memorex

Manufacturer:

Prodisc

Code:

PRODISC R04

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

16x

Write Speed:

16x

Write Time:

6m:07s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

1.11

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.01

Again an excellent result. This media burns oh so smooth!



Brand:

RiDATA

Manufacturer:

Ritek

Code:

RITEK R04

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

16x

Write Speed:

12x (firmware supports 16x but was written at 12x)

Write Time:

6m:08s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

22.04

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.06

The PI are slightly elevated but consistent. PIF is good. The transfer graph is good. Nice burn.



Brand:

FujiFilm

Manufacturer:

Taiyo Yuden

Code:

YUDEN000 T02

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

8x

Write Speed:

16x

Write Time:

6m:18s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

0.98

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.03

Outstanding! 8x certified media at 16x. No more needs to be said.



Brand:

Verbatim

Manufacturer:

Verbatim

Code:

MCC 003

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

8x

Write Speed:

8x supported, achieved 6x then fell back to 4x

Write Time:

13m:40s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

0.34

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.10

A media glitch caused the Active OPC to kick in and prevent the write speed increasing. Again, nice save!

Reviewers Note: Burns on other discs in this batch showed full 8x write speed with excellent results. I chose to include this disc because it clearly illustrates the Active OPC's ability to 'save" the burn.





Brand:

Sony

Manufacturer:

Sony

Code:

SONY D11

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

8x

Write Speed:

12x

Write Time:

7m:00s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

2.16

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.04

This SONY D11 media burns fine and has an excellent read curve. Good media for this drive.





Brand:

Optodisc

Manufacturer:

Optodisc

Code:

OPTODISC R08

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

8x

Write Speed:

8x

Write Time:

9m:01s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

2.96

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.07

This is a very well written media and the read curve is flawless. Very nice!






Brand:

esa

Manufacturer:

CMC Magnetics Corporation

Code:

CMCMAG E01

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

8x

Write Speed:

8x

Write Time:

9m:59s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

0.64

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.01

This is a low cost store brand media that produces a nice result! The read curve shows dips at the outer edge but is ok.



Brand:

Memorex

Manufacturer:

Moser Baer India Ltd.

Code:

MBPG101 R04

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

8x

Write Speed:

8x (after 8x reached the speed dropped back to 6x and eventually to 4x)

Write Time:

11m:12s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

0.48

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.26

This burn slowed to 4x at the end, PI/PIF indicate why. Transfer graph is excellent. Another example of Active OPC at work.



Brand:

Ritek

Manufacturer:

Ritek

Code:

RITEK R03

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

8x

Write Speed:

8x

Write Time:

9m:55s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

98.24

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.13

RiDATA media. Now that's a lot of PI! Transfer curve looks great. OK, if you have them but I wouldn't go looking for them.



Brand:

Great Quality (GQ)

Manufacturer:

Lead Data

Code:

LD S03

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

8x

Write Speed:

8x

Write Time:

9m:54s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

2.02

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.08

Not a bad burn on this low cost store brand. The transfer graph is excellent.





Brand:

Memorex

Manufacturer:

CMC Magnetics Corporation

Code:

CMCMAG F01

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

4x

Write Speed:

4x

Write Time:

15m:09s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

2.89

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.12

A good burn till the outer rim, a nice read curve on this older 4x media.





Brand:

Memorex

Manufacturer:

Ricoh

Code:

RICOHJPN R01

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

4x

Write Speed:

8x

Write Time:

9m:54s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

1.60

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.53

A good 8x burn on this old favorite. A perfect read curve on this older 4x media.

DVD+ReWritable media:







Brand:

Memorex

Manufacturer:

RICOH Company Limited

Code:

RICOHJPN R01

Disc Type:

DVD+RW

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

4x

Write Speed:

4x

Write Time:

15m:33s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

2.27

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.23

Very nice result. This quality burn produces an excellent read back curve.





Brand:

RiDATA

Manufacturer:

Ricoh Company Limited

Code:

RICOHJPN W11

Disc Type:

DVD+RW

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

4x

Write Speed:

4x

Write Time:

15m:33s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

2.95

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.05

Nice! A hitch in the read curve right at the end but good overall.





Brand:

Verbatim

Manufacturer:

Mitsubishi Chemical Corporation

Code:

MKM A02

Disc Type:

DVD+RW

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

4x

Write Speed:

4x

Write Time:

14m:13s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

8.74

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

3.45

High PIE/PIF totals but it produces a perfect read back curve.

To sum it up:

The general write quality from the Mad Dog MD-16XDVD9-8X was very good to excellent with DVD+R. The write quality on DVD+RW was quite good overall.

Let's find out what it can do on DVD-R/RW media.

On the next page you will find the DVD-R/RW writing results...

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