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| Posted by | Paul Chilson |
| Posted on | 12/05/05 16:37 |
The specifications of this drive tell us that it should write DVD±R at 16x, DVD+RW at 8x and DVD-RW at 6x. In this section we will measure the write time for various types of DVD+R/RW and DVD-R/RW discs. We will also focus on write quality and media compatibility.
DVD-Writing performance:
In this test we will measure the time for writing to DVD±R discs. We used Nero Burning Rom to burn an ISO compilation containing 4483Mb of data. We used the Disc-At-Once write method.

DVD+R

DVD-R
In this test we will measure the time for writing to DVD±R discs. We used Nero CD-DVD Speed 'Create Data Disc" to burn 4483Mb of data.

DVD+R

DVD-R
Look below for a comparison to some other drives.
| 16x | Write | Supported | Start | End | Average | Write | Write Time |
| NEC | CAV | 16x +R | 6.75x | 15.96x | 11.70x | 6m:04s | 6m:08s |
| BenQ | CAV | 16x +R | 5.37x | 16.00x | 11.51x | 5m:47s | 5m:50s |
| Samsung | CAV | 16x +R | 6.74x | 12.09x | 12.03x | 5m:58s | 6m:33s |
| Mad Dog | CAV | 16x +R | 6.64x | 15.96x | 11.69x | 6m:05s | 6m:12s |
| Memorex | CAV | 16x +R | 6.65x | 15.97x | 11.95x | 5m:59s | 5m:56s |
| Aopen | CAV | 16x +R | 6.69x | 15.90x | 11.90x | 6m:51s | 6m:49s |
| LG | P-CAV | 16x +R | 7.30x | 16.01x | 12.87x | 5m:34s | 5m:35s |
| Lite-On | CAV | 16x +R | 6.66x | 16.02x | 11.97x | 6m:01s | 6m:03s |
| LG | P-CAV | 16x +R | 7.30x | 15.94x | 12.75x | 5m:30s | 5m:32s |
| Memorex | CAV | 16x +R | 6.68x | 15.99x |
11.95x |
5m:52s |
6m:00s |
The Memorex DVD+/-DL4RWlD2 averages around the 6:00 minute mark at it's 16x writing speed. Now let's move on to see how the drive's writing quality is.
Write quality:
You should first notice that this is not a scientific and professional way to test the discs. But according to our testing done in recent months, we would conclude that there is a clear link between the quality reported when scanning the disc and the playability of the disc in different devices. Also notice that different drives report different amounts of errors. K-Probe was designed to work with Lite-On DVD-Writers, so we recommend using a DVD-Writer from Lite-On. In this test we use a Lite-On SOHW-832S DVD-Writer, as already said; remember that scans done with a Lite-On DVD-ROM or Lite-On combo drive can't be compared with the results obtained with a Lite-On DVD-Writer. Also remember that different PI/PO ECC sum settings along with different reading speeds in K-Probe will affect the result, we use these settings; PI (Parity Inner) set to summarize 8 ECC blocks, PIF (Parity Inner Failures) set to summarize 1 ECC block, reading speed: 4X CLV (Constant Linear Velocity). Setting the PI sum to 8 and the PIF sum to 1 will give a result that we may compare to the standards for DVD+R/RW and DVD-R/RW.
But what is a good scan? That is a discussion that we don't think will end soon, as different drives report different amount of errors, some players are more picky about media than others, and so on. But as a comparison we present you with a scan from two pressed DVD discs:
This scan below shows the results from a pressed, Single Layer DVD-Video disc (Ronin DVD).

This next scan shows the result from a pressed Double Layer DVD-Video disc (Lord of the Rings, The Return of the King). Notice the error jump when shifting to the second layer (the error levels actually drop from the end of the first layer to the beginning of the second layer).

If you read below, you will see that both the pressed DVD-discs are well within the standards.
Download the ECMA 267 Standard for DVD-ROM, the ECMA 337 Standard for DVD+R/RW and the ECMA 338 Standard for DVD-R/RW at http://www.ecma-international.org if you want to look at the standards for yourself. Here is some data from the ECMA standards (same for DVD-ROM, DVD-R/RW and DVD+R/RW):
Random errors:
A row of an ECC Block that has at least 1 byte in error constitutes a PI error. In any 8 consecutive ECC Blocks the total number of PI errors before correction shall not exceed 280.
Here we see that a PI error is defined as a row in an ECC block having 1 byte or more containing errors and that the sum of PI errors in 8 ECC blocks after each other should not exceed 280 PI errors.
But what is a row and what is an ECC block? Again we refer to the ECMA standards. We do not copy and paste everything, but if you're interested, look in the ECMA standards. A row is 182 bytes long where the last 10 bytes contain PI (Parity Inner) information. An ECC block is 208 rows long where the last 16 rows contain the PO (Parity Outer) information. This gives us a maximum possible PI error amount of 208 errors per block and for 8 blocks after each other this sum is of course 8 times higher, giving a maximum possible amount of 1664 PI-8 errors. In practical use, a disc with 1664 PI-8 errors is unreadable.
According to our tests the specified max PI-8 sum of 280 for good discs seems to be a good guideline, as some readers have problems reading discs when the PI-8 errors is over 300 and most players starts to have problems when the PI-8 error level reaches 600 or more.
But what are the PIF errors that K-Probe reports? They are Parity Inner Failures, meaning errors left after PI correction. Only the ECMA 337 standard describes the Parity Inner Failures. So how is a Parity Inner Failure defined? Here is what the ECMA 337 states:
'If a row of an ECC Block as defined in 13.3 contains more than 5 erroneous bytes, the row is said to be 'PI-uncorrectable"."
In theory, an ECC block may in the worst case have 208 PIF since every ECC block is 208 rows long. But the ECMA 337 standard goes further and specifies the max amount of accepted PI Failures (uncorrectable errors) allowed on a good disc:
'In any ECC Block the number of PI-uncorrectable rows should not exceed 4."
This means that when the PIF sum is set to 1, the maximum error value should not exceed 4. The theoretical maximum value for PIF is 208 errors.
But what makes a disc unreadable? A POF (Parity Outer Failure) error will make the disc unreadable, but K-Probe does not display the POF's.
Notice that there are other aspects such as disc reflectivity, jitter, tracking errors and so on that also will affect the readability of a DVD disc - but for this we do not have measuring equipment available.
Also, another note is that we have scanned the discs at 4X CLV speed, by lowering the speed to 2X(DVD-R/RW)/2.4X(DVD+R/RW) or 1X the amount of reported errors may drop on some discs. We scanned at 4X CLV due to lower speeds taking too much time.
To see if there is a connection between the reported amount of errors and readability of the discs we also include the reading curve from a Mad Dog MD-16XDVD9 DVD-Writer. The reason why we have changed the reader is that some companies disliked that we used a modified firmware to obtain 16x reading speed. So to please them, we are now using a drive that reads DVD+R/-R media at 16x as default. A small speed reduction near the end is still accepted on good discs, but serious reading problems or reading failures is a bad sign.
An easier explanation on how to read the test results.
Maybe this got too technical, and you are wondering what to look for in Kprobe reports?
Use this as a guideline for good discs:
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PI (Parity Inner): No larger areas on the disc should exceed 280 PI-8 errors, do not worry too much about high single spikes that exceed 280.
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PIF (Parity Inner Failures): No larger areas on the disc should exceed 4 PIF-1 errors, do not worry too much about high single spikes that exceed 4.
And as always; lower is better ![]()
And look at the reading curve; if it looks clean with no dips it should be good, a small slowdown near the end is accepted.
DVD+R media compatibility and write quality:



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Brand: |
Verbatim |
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Manufacturer: |
Mitsubishi Chemicals Corporation |
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Code: |
MCC 004 |
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Disc Type: |
DVD+R |
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Capacity: |
4483MB |
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Certified Speed: |
16x |
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Write Speed: |
16x |
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Write Time: |
5m:52s |
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PI-8 errors Average/Sec: |
60.80 |
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PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec: |
7.28 |
We tried two different batches of MCC004 and the results were near identical. The transfer curve finishes but is suspicious. Not what we would expect from this quality media.



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Brand: |
Memorex |
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Manufacturer: |
CMC Magnetics Corporation |
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Code: |
CMC MAG M01 |
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Disc Type: |
DVD+R |
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Capacity: |
4483MB |
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Certified Speed: |
16x |
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Write Speed: |
16x |
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Write Time: |
6m:00s |
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PI-8 errors Average/Sec: |
41.45 |
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PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec: |
11.31 |
Again, somewhat suspicious results on 16x certified media, high PIE and PIF totals and averages. However the reading curve is ok.



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Brand: |
Optodisc |
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Manufacturer: |
Optodisc |
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Code: |
OPTODISC R16 |
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Disc Type: |
DVD+R |
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Capacity: |
4483MB |
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Certified Speed: |
16x |
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Write Speed: |
12x |
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Write Time: |
7m:09s |
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PI-8 errors Average/Sec: |
16.55 |
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PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec: |
5.20 |
Again the PIE/PIF totals are high but the reading curve finishes with only some slow down at the end. Not to bad for inexpensive media. Only 12x supported write speed.



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Brand: |
esa |
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Manufacturer: |
CMC Magnetics Corporation |
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Code: |
CMC MAG E01 |
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Disc Type: |
DVD+R |
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Capacity: |
4483MB |
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Certified Speed: |
8x |
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Write Speed: |
8x |
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Write Time: |
6m:08s |
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PI-8 errors Average/Sec: |
3.08 |
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PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec: |
0.56 |
This 8x certified media result is good, the PIF is a little higher than we like to see. The transfer curve slows down to read the outer edge but finishes ok.



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Brand: |
Memorex |
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Manufacturer: |
Moser Baer India Limited |
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Code: |
MBIPG101 R04 |
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Disc Type: |
DVD+R |
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Capacity: |
4483MB |
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Certified Speed: |
8x |
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Write Speed: |
8x |
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Write Time: |
8m:36s |
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PI-8 errors Average/Sec: |
0.97 |
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PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec: |
0.01 |
Moser Baer India Media written at 8x. A PIF spike at the outer edge. The transfer test is good here. Good quality overall.



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Brand: |
FujiFilm |
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Manufacturer: |
Taiyo Yuden Company Limited |
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Code: |
YUDEN000 T02 |
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Disc Type: |
DVD+R |
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Capacity: |
4483MB |
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Certified Speed: |
8x |
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Write Speed: |
8x |
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Write Time: |
8m:38s |
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PI-8 errors Average/Sec: |
1.63 |
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PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec: |
0.08 |
The result is VERY good. The transfer scan is perfect.



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Brand: |
RiDATA |
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Manufacturer: |
RiTEK |
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Code: |
RITEK R03 |
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Disc Type: |
DVD+R |
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Capacity: |
4483MB |
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Certified Speed: |
8x |
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Write Speed: |
8x |
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Write Time: |
8m:38s |
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PI-8 errors Average/Sec: |
12.54 |
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PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec: |
0.96 |
The PIE/PIF totals are a bit high causing the slow down in transfer speed.



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Brand: |
Optodisc |
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Manufacturer: |
Optodisc |
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Code: |
OPTODISC 0R8 |
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Disc Type: |
DVD+R |
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Capacity: |
4483MB |
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Certified Speed: |
8x |
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Write Speed: |
8x |
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Write Time: |
9m:35s |
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PI-8 errors Average/Sec: |
4.64 |
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PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec: |
0.13 |
This result is excellent. The transfer scan is perfect. Highly recommended!



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Brand: |
Sony |
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Manufacturer: |
Sony |
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Code: |
SONY D11 |
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Disc Type: |
DVD+R |
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Capacity: |
4483MB |
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Certified Speed: |
8x |
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Write Speed: |
8x |
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Write Time: |
8m:36s |
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PI-8 errors Average/Sec: |
2.75 |
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PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec: |
0.08 |
The result is excellent. The transfer scan slows at the outer edge but is ok.



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Brand: |
Maxell |
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Manufacturer: |
Ricoh |
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Code: |
RICOHJPN R01 |
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Disc Type: |
DVD+R |
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Capacity: |
4483MB |
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Certified Speed: |
4x |
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Write Speed: |
4x |
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Write Time: |
13m:39s |
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PI-8 errors Average/Sec: |
0.28 |
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PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec: |
0.02 |
The result is excellent. The transfer scan is near perfect.
DVD+ReWritable media:


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Brand: |
TDK |
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Manufacturer: |
Ricoh |
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Code: |
RICOHJPN W01 |
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Disc Type: |
DVD+RW |
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Capacity: |
4483MB |
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Certified Speed: |
2.4x |
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Write Speed: |
2.4x |
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Write Time: |
23m:18s |
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PI-8 errors Average/Sec: |
206.50 |
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PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec: |
2.85 |
Not a good result with this 2.4x media. Not recommended.



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Brand: |
Philips |
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Manufacturer: |
Philips |
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Code: |
PHILIPS 041 |
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Disc Type: |
DVD+RW |
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Capacity: |
4483MB |
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Certified Speed: |
1-4x |
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Write Speed: |
4x |
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Write Time: |
13m:58s |
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PI-8 errors Average/Sec: |
16.14 |
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PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec: |
5.92 |
A very good result on this Philips DVD+RW media showing a perfect transfer curve.



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Brand: |
RiDATA |
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Manufacturer: |
Ricoh |
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Code: |
RICOHJPN W11 |
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Disc Type: |
DVD+RW |
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Capacity: |
4483MB |
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Certified Speed: |
1-4x |
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Write Speed: |
4x |
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Write Time: |
14m:48s |
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PI-8 errors Average/Sec: |
0.79 |
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PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec: |
0.01 |
Nice result on this RiDATA DVD+RW media. It shows a bit of a slowdown at the outer edge on the transfer curve.



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Brand: |
Verbatim - Thanks to Verbatim for sending us this media. |
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Manufacturer: |
Mitsubishi Kagaku Media |
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Code: |
MKM A02 |
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Disc Type: |
DVD+RW |
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Capacity: |
4483MB |
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Certified Speed: |
4x |
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Write Speed: |
4x |
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Write Time: |
14m:24s |
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PI-8 errors Average/Sec: |
4.24 |
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PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec: |
1.15 |
Nice result with this Verbatim 4x media. A perfect transfer curve.




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Brand: |
Verbatim - Thanks to Verbatim for sending us this media. |
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Manufacturer: |
Mitsubishi Kagaku Media |
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Code: |
MKM A03 |
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Disc Type: |
DVD+RW |
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Capacity: |
4483MB |
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Certified Speed: |
8x |
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Write Speed: |
8x |
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Write Time: |
8m:10s |
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PI-8 errors Average/Sec: |
43.39 |
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PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec: |
0.15 |
Not a bad go for this new 8x media producing a perfect reading curve.
The Memorex DVD+/-DL4RWlD2 writes some DVD+R and DVD+RW media with very good to excellent quality. It could use improvement on some media. Let's move on and find out what it can do on DVD-R/RW media.
On the next page you will find the DVD-R/RW writing results...







CD-R/RW Writing performance
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