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Protected Data
 

Now we'll start testing the reading of copy-protected data discs. Copy-protections are used on almost every game nowadays so it's important a writer can handle the various protections out there. For the tests we used CloneCD version 3.3.4.1 from Elaborate Bytes. We scanned every disc with the latest German ClonyXXL version 2.0.0.2 Beta e to determine the used copy-protection. ClonyXXL can be obtained from home.arcor.de/bejot.

The 'skeletons' underneath each ClonyXXL scan-result screen indicate the toughness of the used protection:

Toughness of used copy-protection

We'll test the following, most common, copy-protections. Afterwards we'll conclude the reading of protected data with our usual conclusions:

Protected Data - LaserLock:

For this test we'll use a game called 'Desperados' protected with LaserLock 2. We scanned the disc with the German ClonyXXL and it indeed finds the LaserLock protection:

LaserLock

CloneCD was set-up with the following settings:

  • Read Speed: Max
  • Fast Error Skip:
    • Read Retries: 0 (default)
    • Error Correction: Software (default)
  • Intelligent Bad Sector Scanner:
    • Sector Skip: 100 (default)

LaserLock 2 is hard to read for a lot of recorders but the Mitsumi CR-480ATE performed very well. Whereas the Waitec MEGALUS needed well over 1 hour and 30 minutes to read the disc, the Mitsumi finished the job in under 21 minutes:

Reading LaserLock disc with CloneCD

Protected Data - SafeDisc:

For this test we'll use a game called 'Beavis and Butthead: BungHole in One' protected with the normal SafeDisc. Note that 'Alt' means 'Old' since SafeDisc is a rather old protection:

SafeDisc *old*

CloneCD was set-up with the following settings:

  • Read Speed: Max
  • Fast Error Skip:
    • Read Retries: 0 (default)
    • Error Correction: Software (default)

Again the Mitsumi produces an excellent result here. It skips the SafeDisc errors very fast and can read the entire disc in just over 3 minutes. Really a lot faster than the Waitec MEGALUS which needed well over 1 hour and 30 minutes:

Reading SafeDisc *old* disc with CloneCD

Because the Plextor PX-W2410A and the Lite-On 24102B reviews were done with different SafeDisc games we cannot fully compare the achieved results. However we can say that the Mitsumi is the fastest SafeDisc reader here. It beats all drives we have reviewed with ease.

Protected Data - SafeDisc 2:

For this test we'll use a game called 'The Sims: House Party' protected with SafeDisc 2:

SafeDisc 2

CloneCD was set-up with the following settings:

  • Read Speed: Max
  • Fast Error Skip:
    • Read Retries: 0 (default)
    • Error Correction: Software (default)

Again the Mitsumi is extremely fast. This time the CR-480ATE finishes the job in 2 minutes and 30 seconds! Again a lot faster than the Waitec MEGALUS which needed well over 46 minutes. Please note that this time we read from a back-up disc:

Reading SafeDisc 2 disc with CloneCD

Like expected the Mitsumi blasts away all previous drives we've tested when it comes to reading SafeDisc 2 protected discs. However, as most people will know, we also need to check if the drive can write SafeDisc 2. Unlike the other protections SafeDisc 2 back-ups depend on whether or not the drive support 'Correct EFM Encoding' which is needed to write 'regular bit patterns'. For more info on SafeDisc 2 read this article.

We re-read the disc again only this time at 4x just to make sure that the created image was good. We used the same 'Fast Error Skip' settings as before:

  • Read Speed: 4x
  • Fast Error Skip:
    • Read Retries: 0 (default)
    • Error Correction: Software (default)

We wrote the disc with the default settings enabled ('buffer underrun protection and 'always close last session' on). Unfortunately the Mitsumi CR-480ATE fails in making a working SafeDisc 2 back-up. We tested the back-up in these drives:

  • Toshiba SD-M1502: failed
  • Mitsumi CR-480ATE: failed

Next we tried to write the disc with CloneCD's 'Amplify Weak Sectors' option enabled. This is a new CloneCD feature which is supposed to help writers like the Mitsumi produce better (read: working) back-ups of SafeDisc 2 protected discs. For more info on this new feature read this article.

CloneCD with Amplify Weak Sectors

With CloneCD's 'AWS' the Mitsumi CR-480ATE succeeded in making a working back-up. We tested the back-up disc in these drives:

  • Toshiba SD-M1502: success
  • Mitsumi CR-480ATE: success

Protected Data - SecuROM:

The final normal protected data tests we'll do is with a game called 'V-Rally 2 Expert Edition' protected with SecuROM 2:

SecuROM 2

CloneCD was set-up with the following settings:

  • Read Speed: Max
  • Read SubChannel Data from Data Tracks
  • Read SubChannel Data from Audio Tracks

Reading SecuROM 2 disc with CloneCD

The Mitsumi CR-480ATE supports the reading and writing of the full 96 bytes of SubChannel Data and had no problems with SecuROM 2. The drive is again really fast, faster than the drives we've previously tested.

Protected Data - PlayStation/LibCrypt:

The final protected data test we'll do is with a LibCrypt protected PlayStation disc called 'Final Fantasy VIII'. We used the first (of four) disc(s) of this game:

PlayStation/LibCrypt

CloneCD was set-up with the following settings:

  • Read Speed: Max
  • Read SubChannel Data from Data Tracks
  • Read SubChannel Data from Audio Tracks

Reading PlayStation/LibCrypt disc with CloneCD

And again the Mitsumi CR-480ATE is extremely fast... It can read the entire disc in 2 minutes and 43 seconds. As a comparison, the Waitec MEGALUS needed about 12 minutes to read the same disc.

Protected Data - Conclusion:

Well as you might have guessed we love the Mitsumi CR-480ATE. With every protection thrown at it, the drive was extremely fast and never complained... It's too bad the drive cannot handle 'Correct EFM Encoding' which is needed to copy SafeDisc 2 but luckily the drive did work with CloneCD's 'Amplify Weak Sectors' option. On top of the great reading speeds the drive can read and write the full SubChannel Data without problems. Two thumbs up for the Mitsumi!

Now that we've covered the reading (and writing) of normal/unprotected data and protected data discs it's time to see how the Mitsumi CR-480ATE performs with audio...

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Can this drive burn working copies of PSX and PS2 games?
Yes(Libcrypt protection) and Yes(if they are ripped).
Can anyone tell me how the Mitsumi CR-4809TE compares to this??? Does it incorporate all the same features? It will still work with CloneCD? Thanx!
The CR-4809TE is the 24x model right? Well if so a CD Freaks member is working a review right now! Should be finished soon so stay tuned :)
Any experience with copying protected audio CDs? Or a tip which writer can copy them?
thx:7
I've just had a look on the Mitsumi website (Europe) and the tech spec on this drive says it's only got a 2Mb buffer, NOT 16mb. As I have just bought an OEM version of this drive (yesterday) I am a little hacked off if this is actually the case....
Hmm indeed/ I've [url=http://www.mitsumi.de/english/produkte/spec/cd480Ate.shtml]checked it[/url] and you're right. The buffer size indeed seems to be 2MB now instead of 16MB. I can assure you that our test model has 16MB as you can see in our screenshots of both Nero and CloneCD. I think Mitsumi must have decided to lower the buffer size (16MB is huge) to lower the cost of the drive. Buffer-memory is expensive. Nothing we (CD Freaks) can do about this. Thanks for letting us know!
I have an OEM version of this drive, and it has the 2MB buffer. It does seem to work well, though, even with some year-old 12X Memorex CD's, which it burned nicely at 32X.
Well, as I am running WindowsXP with a PlexWriter that does not work with XP, I would like to know that the Mitsumi drive works with XP.

Has anyone any experience about that?

:)
All writers work under Windows XP... The Plextor should too and if it's not then something is wrong with your system. There are some problems with DMA under Windows XP (MultiWord DMA like the Plex 24x is using causes problems sometimes) but since the Mitsumi CR-480ATE uses UDMA33 it's fully supported under XP.

Good luck! :p
Hi, i'm just about to buy this nice Mitsumi burner. I'm from Slovakia in Europe and i can tell ya guys this CD-RW is the cheapest one in our country :))) i'm gonna buy it tomorrow :9 :d
I bought a few days ago the Mitsumi CR-480ATE, which is promising a 16MB, buffer and was disappointed to get a 2MB buffer. On the genuine package Mitsumi registered 16MB buffer but the Nero software that is supported in the package reports just 2MB buffer. The same Nero software shows at your test a 16MB buffer. It looks like Mitsumi reduced the buffer capacity to 2MB and left the original printing of 16MB buffer on the package. If this is the situation this is a wrong way of marketing. Mitsumi does not have any "contact us" link on their web site, which makes you "angry" while you need to ask them about. It looks like customers are not so important to them. So take it into your consideration when you're going to by the Mitsumi CR-480ATE to these facts.
i have the 48xate, it was repackaged as a hival at office max. it has a 16 mb buffer and i only got it a month ago. i love it!
Naughty Mitsumi; naughty, naughty, naughty. Your 16 MB buffer has inexplicably shrunk to 2 MB. To save face, you might try sending your cute little Japanese wife to my place, tonight at 11:00.
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