New CloneCD v4.0
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| Posted by | Dennis |
| Posted on | 15/03/02 10:39 |
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As most people will have noticed it has been rather quiet at Elaborate
Bytes, Oliver Kastl or better known as the people behind CloneCD. CloneCD is well known amongst the burning community
and doesn't need an introduction anymore. For those who don't know CloneCD (shame on you!) here's a brief introduction:
"..CloneCD is a powerful CD replicator software that will allow you to make perfect back-ups of most current protected CDs. This can be performed because it writes in Raw Mode, which allows it to have total control on the written data.."
Sounds great but what does this mean? Well in short it means that CloneCD can copy discs that normally can't or won't be copied. This is a very simple definition and although CloneCD was one of the first programs to use this 'Raw Mode' it's not alone anymore. New programs have been launched and the last CloneCD version dates back three months ago (January 3rd). Since then many questions have been asked when a new CloneCD version will be released and what the heck is going on at Elaborate Bytes. Well we have the scoop for you:
Currently a new CloneCD version is being developed with the codename CloneCD X. In this (p)review we will show you what this new CloneCD has in store for you and why people have been waiting so long for an update.
Please note that the version we received from Elaborate Bytes is a beta version and still needs retouching! The final version may be different from ours but with this (p)review we want to show you what lies ahead...
Please also note that in this (p)review we will not test how CloneCD handles various copy-protections like SafeDisc 2, etc. because this CloneCD version is still beta and there's no point in testing something that hasn't been finished yet.
Please use the links below to go the next sections of this (p)review:
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Posted by MP|3 on Friday 15 March 2002 11:01
Great work G@M3FR3@K! I think this new CloneCD will definately attract more users because of it's easier usage...
Look great! Can't wait. Simple is better as far as I am concerned! If it works without having to delve into all the advanced settings, then for most people, tha'ts just the ticket. Nice one Sir Oliver!
Well, it still looks like the same ole' CloneCD...
I don't see how a new installation-procedure will benefit the user at all!
In fact, this "new" version doesn't seem to have so much more to offer that the old version doesn't already have!
It's nice though that he's trying to make it more user-friendly for the newbies!
The only thing I care about in CloneCD is the copy-protection stuff (duh, that's what the proggy is for) but I guess we'll have to wait for the full version to see if there are any changes...
If there isn't, I don't really see any point in upgrading...
This seems more like a version made for the beginners, us hardcore peeps can stick with the old version, he he! :7
I don't see how a new installation-procedure will benefit the user at all!
In fact, this "new" version doesn't seem to have so much more to offer that the old version doesn't already have!
It's nice though that he's trying to make it more user-friendly for the newbies!
The only thing I care about in CloneCD is the copy-protection stuff (duh, that's what the proggy is for) but I guess we'll have to wait for the full version to see if there are any changes...
If there isn't, I don't really see any point in upgrading...
This seems more like a version made for the beginners, us hardcore peeps can stick with the old version, he he! :7
What about TAGES .. did you try it on that ?
Otherwise .. it looks nice, but not much news for the hardcore CloneCD users !
Otherwise .. it looks nice, but not much news for the hardcore CloneCD users !
I think OLI OWNZ!!!!!
Clone cd is a high quality program deep respect for oli and his team who delevoped it.
Clone cd is a high quality program deep respect for oli and his team who delevoped it.
Posted by OC-Freak on Friday 15 March 2002 14:38
Remember this is not the final version!!!
But so far CD-Cops and Tagès is still a no-go......
But so far CD-Cops and Tagès is still a no-go......
Posted by MP|3 on Friday 15 March 2002 15:28
Personally I think this is the best move ever in terms of the future of clonecd...
Posted by RickDangerous on Friday 15 March 2002 16:10
Er... this is no big deal guys... I certainly wouldn't call it "the best move ever in terms of the future of clonecd"!! I mean the only actual new feature is setting the quality of DAE extraction (and even that may not be new, I've not used Clone for a while)... everything else is just cosmetic and Clone has been due a cosmetic update for some time. The preview is pretty pointless without testing the actual copying capability.
Posted by DoMiN8ToR on Friday 15 March 2002 16:39
I'm not sure if it's the best move ever, cause we will have see that in the future, but it makes it easier for people to make working backups of their games, this means it's better for marketing and attract customers that would else leave the software alone, because for them the software was to hard to understand.
There is also a new feature in this CloneCD that is really intresting. When you read for e.g a SafeDisc protected CD, CloneCD will find the first weak sectors, then slow down and check again, after several reads it will know if the sector is really weak and start to check the next one, if it finds several weak sectors it will guess the CD is protected and skip a lot of them. BUT !!! This would normally mean it would also skip good sectors, and thats the trick, this new version will automagically notice that the weak sector part is finished and start read normally again. This could make for some protections and readers the reading process a lot faster...
And that's intresting...
There is also a new feature in this CloneCD that is really intresting. When you read for e.g a SafeDisc protected CD, CloneCD will find the first weak sectors, then slow down and check again, after several reads it will know if the sector is really weak and start to check the next one, if it finds several weak sectors it will guess the CD is protected and skip a lot of them. BUT !!! This would normally mean it would also skip good sectors, and thats the trick, this new version will automagically notice that the weak sector part is finished and start read normally again. This could make for some protections and readers the reading process a lot faster...
And that's intresting...
Posted by Wookie on Friday 15 March 2002 21:04
Great review! Good work GameFreak!!
Can't wait till this new version can be downloaded as a trial! :9
Can't wait till this new version can be downloaded as a trial! :9
Posted by Da_Taxman on Friday 15 March 2002 22:27
Can't wait for the technical review, the testing of overcoming the latest copy protections.
But this is one step forward in its development, making it available to the average consumer. This will put CloneCD right on the map with Easy CD Creator and Nero as far as the average consumer is concerned (the expert users already knew this program to be tops).
But this is one step forward in its development, making it available to the average consumer. This will put CloneCD right on the map with Easy CD Creator and Nero as far as the average consumer is concerned (the expert users already knew this program to be tops).
Posted by OC-Freak on Friday 15 March 2002 23:11
And in line with CD-Mate
That was a thing that CD-Mate did before CloneCD: make the copy process easier.
Well, Uhm technical review? We will wait for the official version with that
That was a thing that CD-Mate did before CloneCD: make the copy process easier.
Well, Uhm technical review? We will wait for the official version with that
Posted by Huzzy on Saturday 16 March 2002 01:58
another interesting and enjoyable review from GFreak.
well done.
well done.
Posted by Puckster on Saturday 16 March 2002 04:07
Don't forget this is just an interim update until CloneCD 4 is released, CCD 4 is where all the major changes is supposed to happen. Ollie talked about this for a long time now, that there was going to be another update before Version 4, I wouldn't expect too many changes.... yet.
Posted by 83bj60 on Saturday 16 March 2002 14:46
Looks [b]GREAT[/b] and the new features look [b]very[/b] promising (especially the new audio extraction feature being implemented!)
Fantastic job Olli, love the new graphics
Fantastic job Olli, love the new graphics
Posted by elbebeborikua on Saturday 16 March 2002 20:27
good work G@meFr@k!!!
When the oficila version comes out review its copying abilities!!!
ps-> how i determine the best error corrections settings for my yamaha 2200e(20/10/40)?!?:0
When the oficila version comes out review its copying abilities!!!
ps-> how i determine the best error corrections settings for my yamaha 2200e(20/10/40)?!?:0
Posted by whitetie on Sunday 17 March 2002 05:06
How does this new DAE feature compare to using the prior version of CloneCD to copy audio CDs?
To date I have always used CloneCD to "clone" or copy audio CDs. So why DAE?
Again my thanks to Ollie!
whitetie
To date I have always used CloneCD to "clone" or copy audio CDs. So why DAE?
Again my thanks to Ollie!
whitetie
Posted by Ian on Sunday 17 March 2002 16:13
CDRInfo says they have the first look at version 4.0 of CloneCD
"A) The world's first preview of CloneCD v4.x (actual version 3.5.3.4)"
It looks the same as the 3.5 CD Freaks looked at. Are they calling it 4.0 just to hype it up or what?
"A) The world's first preview of CloneCD v4.x (actual version 3.5.3.4)"
It looks the same as the 3.5 CD Freaks looked at. Are they calling it 4.0 just to hype it up or what?
Posted by DoMiN8ToR on Sunday 17 March 2002 16:18
Yup
There is currently no official name for the CloneCD version. To us it was introduced as CloneCD X, I have also seen it distributed on CD as CloneCD 4. They are all the same, but as you know Ian, someone always wants to be world exclusive
There is currently no official name for the CloneCD version. To us it was introduced as CloneCD X, I have also seen it distributed on CD as CloneCD 4. They are all the same, but as you know Ian, someone always wants to be world exclusive
[b]This (p)review was done with CloneCD version 3.5.1.5 (first beta) up to version 3.5.3.4 (latest beta including custom language dependant install procedure)[/b]
Ian I can therefore say that CDRInfo does not have CloneCD 4 if they are using 3.5.3.4 and they're hyping things up. Btw I don't see their review on their site?
Regards,
GF
Ian I can therefore say that CDRInfo does not have CloneCD 4 if they are using 3.5.3.4 and they're hyping things up. Btw I don't see their review on their site?
Regards,
GF
Posted by Da_Taxman on Sunday 17 March 2002 20:57
What CDR Info calles version 4, is the exact same version as was reviewed here, considering ther version number displayed at their 'review' (which is not even half the size of our review).
It could very well be that this will become version 4, but then again, it is also possible that the real version 4 has yet to be developed. By calling it version 4 they are trying to claim a scoop, while in fact it isn't (well, not for them, it was for us, they posted tthis at March 16, while our review was posted on March 15, 1 day before CDR Info... )
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It could very well be that this will become version 4, but then again, it is also possible that the real version 4 has yet to be developed. By calling it version 4 they are trying to claim a scoop, while in fact it isn't (well, not for them, it was for us, they posted tthis at March 16, while our review was posted on March 15, 1 day before CDR Info...
)[ Edited by a CD Freaks Administrator ]
I think this update could be summed with one word -- Facelift. There are very few and minor updates to this version; however, I would bet the coding and program model has been altered to set them up for their future plans. GLA
Posted by OC-Freak on Monday 18 March 2002 14:47
And this new version uses [b]WAY[/b] less CPU resources!!!!!
Posted by GrefdigGloner on Thursday 21 March 2002 14:28
Why cant't the beta be dowloaded (the ccd 3 beta was downloadable)
AND
the cebit is out now but there is no download
AND
the cebit is out now but there is no download
Posted by OC-Freak on Thursday 21 March 2002 15:18
Olli probably want to fine tune it a bit more, there is some tiny bugs that could be squezed out.
i wonder if the register process is still easy to do and put a serial or keygen u dl and put that in without payying i know everyone is happy wit clonecd because 99% of u dont pay for it! :9
By far the best GUI and options! ELBY makes this version great for newbies and for advanced users. Can't wait to donwload it!!! :4
I just did a double-take on G@M3FR3@K's review and the postings. Either I'm missing something somewhere 
or it's not posted - but when should the final version be available??? 
or it's not posted - but when should the final version be available??? Posted by cruicent on Thursday 04 April 2002 13:33
when will it come out for downloading???? when will it come out for downloading???? when will it come out for downloading????
oh yea, great article.
(*looks around to see if anyone is looking* ...erm...say india...that key generator u were talking about...where dya get it from?)
oh yea, great article.
(*looks around to see if anyone is looking* ...erm...say india...that key generator u were talking about...where dya get it from?)
Posted by hillbilly123 on Saturday 13 April 2002 02:41
This seems good but why does it not like my Mitsumi 4804TE which in all prev vers was possibly the best writer to use with CCD IT fails to recognise it at all 
I have 4.0 version, it seem to copy O.K., loaded good [2 disk game] but the game won't play with the copied cd, it will if I use original cd. help anyone?
I didn't care for the newest version of CloneCD... until I installed Perfect Copy SRIII.
After installation I immediately went to a disk that I hadn't been able to successfully after 5 or 6 attempts. Needless to say, the copy turned out PERFECT!!:G Now, I am a MOST satisfied CloneCD user, again!!!:4
... until I installed Perfect Copy SRIII.
After installation I immediately went to a disk that I hadn't been able to successfully after 5 or 6 attempts. Needless to say, the copy turned out PERFECT!!:G Now, I am a MOST satisfied CloneCD user, again!!!:4
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