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Posted by Dennis
Posted on 15/03/02 10:39
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Blé¨é¨é¨h! First of all let's start with some things to keep in mind: the version we received from Elaborate Bytes is a beta version and still needs retouching! The final version may be different from ours. In this (p)review we didn't test how CloneCD handles various copy-protections like SafeDisc 2, etc. because there's no point in testing something that hasn't been finished yet.

Installation:

Well as you might have noticed during the (p)review CloneCD has undergone some major changes. The first big difference is the way CloneCD installs. It's very fast and very simple. The installation procedure will now even be done in your own language, of course depending on whether or not CloneCD has been translated into your language or not.

Usage:

CloneCD has undergone some major changes in the way it is used. The focus is now on Profiles and people/users don't have to figure out the proper settings for each disc. A major advantage for less experienced users of course. The Profile-focus may be a little odd for experienced users but luckily you can still access the advanced settings. With the new CloneCD version it's possible to create your own Profile for each type of disc or even for each title. The Profiles are very easy to use and users with no experience at all should be able to operate CloneCD with ease. The user interface has remained the same in this CloneCD version and the four main buttons are very easy to use.

Copy-Protection Scanners:

With the new focus on Profiles there won't be much need for copy-protection scanners like ClonyXXL. Oliver Kastl let us know that the old command line options can't be supported anymore in this new CloneCD version but two new command line options for protection scanners have been implemented. But like said, the need for these scanners is now questionable...

Graphics:

We liked the new 'sheep' look and the orange icons but that is of course entirely a personal opinion. If you don't like the look you can of course just install a new skin and use that one instead. It's too bad we couldn't show you the animated pictures this new CloneCD version uses when a disc is examined for example or when a write is in progress. They simply look cool!

CloneCD Tray:

The CloneCD Tray hasn't been discussed further during this (p)review but it's still present in this new CloneCD version. It hasn't changed.

Conclusions:

We liked the new 'look and feel' of CloneCD X. We think that past questions like 'Which settings do I use with disc XXX?' and 'Which error correction method do I have to use?' have all been solved in this new version. CloneCD has never been easier to use! But that's our personal opinion.

Please post your feelings/questions/other remarks below! What do you think about the focus on Profiles for example?

Signed:
G@M3FR3@K

Our thanks goes to Sven Rohde and Oliver Kastl from Elaborate Bytes for sending us this preview version and providing feedback! Please don't e-mail me if I can send you this new CloneCD version because I won't.

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Great work G@M3FR3@K! I think this new CloneCD will definately attract more users because of it's easier usage...
Look great! Can't wait. Simple is better as far as I am concerned! If it works without having to delve into all the advanced settings, then for most people, tha'ts just the ticket. Nice one Sir Oliver!
Well, it still looks like the same ole' CloneCD...
I don't see how a new installation-procedure will benefit the user at all!
In fact, this "new" version doesn't seem to have so much more to offer that the old version doesn't already have!
It's nice though that he's trying to make it more user-friendly for the newbies! :)
The only thing I care about in CloneCD is the copy-protection stuff (duh, that's what the proggy is for) but I guess we'll have to wait for the full version to see if there are any changes...
If there isn't, I don't really see any point in upgrading...
This seems more like a version made for the beginners, us hardcore peeps can stick with the old version, he he! :7
What about TAGES .. did you try it on that ?

Otherwise .. it looks nice, but not much news for the hardcore CloneCD users !
I think OLI OWNZ!!!!!

Clone cd is a high quality program deep respect for oli and his team who delevoped it.
Remember this is not the final version!!!

But so far CD-Cops and Tagès is still a no-go......
Personally I think this is the best move ever in terms of the future of clonecd...
Er... this is no big deal guys... I certainly wouldn't call it "the best move ever in terms of the future of clonecd"!! I mean the only actual new feature is setting the quality of DAE extraction (and even that may not be new, I've not used Clone for a while)... everything else is just cosmetic and Clone has been due a cosmetic update for some time. The preview is pretty pointless without testing the actual copying capability.
I'm not sure if it's the best move ever, cause we will have see that in the future, but it makes it easier for people to make working backups of their games, this means it's better for marketing and attract customers that would else leave the software alone, because for them the software was to hard to understand.

There is also a new feature in this CloneCD that is really intresting. When you read for e.g a SafeDisc protected CD, CloneCD will find the first weak sectors, then slow down and check again, after several reads it will know if the sector is really weak and start to check the next one, if it finds several weak sectors it will guess the CD is protected and skip a lot of them. BUT !!! This would normally mean it would also skip good sectors, and thats the trick, this new version will automagically notice that the weak sector part is finished and start read normally again. This could make for some protections and readers the reading process a lot faster...

And that's intresting...
Great review! Good work GameFreak!!;)
Can't wait till this new version can be downloaded as a trial! :9

Can't wait for the technical review, the testing of overcoming the latest copy protections.

But this is one step forward in its development, making it available to the average consumer. This will put CloneCD right on the map with Easy CD Creator and Nero as far as the average consumer is concerned (the expert users already knew this program to be tops).
And in line with CD-Mate ;)

That was a thing that CD-Mate did before CloneCD: make the copy process easier.

Well, Uhm technical review? We will wait for the official version with that ;)
another interesting and enjoyable review from GFreak.

well done.
Don't forget this is just an interim update until CloneCD 4 is released, CCD 4 is where all the major changes is supposed to happen. Ollie talked about this for a long time now, that there was going to be another update before Version 4, I wouldn't expect too many changes.... yet.
Looks [b]GREAT[/b] and the new features look [b]very[/b] promising (especially the new audio extraction feature being implemented!)

Fantastic job Olli, love the new graphics ;)
good work G@meFr@k!!!
When the oficila version comes out review its copying abilities!!!
ps-> how i determine the best error corrections settings for my yamaha 2200e(20/10/40)?!?:0
How does this new DAE feature compare to using the prior version of CloneCD to copy audio CDs?

To date I have always used CloneCD to "clone" or copy audio CDs. So why DAE?

Again my thanks to Ollie!

whitetie
:)
CDRInfo says they have the first look at version 4.0 of CloneCD

"A) The world's first preview of CloneCD v4.x (actual version 3.5.3.4)"

It looks the same as the 3.5 CD Freaks looked at. Are they calling it 4.0 just to hype it up or what?
Yup ;)

There is currently no official name for the CloneCD version. To us it was introduced as CloneCD X, I have also seen it distributed on CD as CloneCD 4. They are all the same, but as you know Ian, someone always wants to be world exclusive ;)
[b]This (p)review was done with CloneCD version 3.5.1.5 (first beta) up to version 3.5.3.4 (latest beta including custom language dependant install procedure)[/b]

Ian I can therefore say that CDRInfo does not have CloneCD 4 if they are using 3.5.3.4 and they're hyping things up. Btw I don't see their review on their site?

Regards,
GF
What CDR Info calles version 4, is the exact same version as was reviewed here, considering ther version number displayed at their 'review' (which is not even half the size of our review).



It could very well be that this will become version 4, but then again, it is also possible that the real version 4 has yet to be developed. By calling it version 4 they are trying to claim a scoop, while in fact it isn't (well, not for them, it was for us, they posted tthis at March 16, while our review was posted on March 15, 1 day before CDR Info... ;) )
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I think this update could be summed with one word -- Facelift. There are very few and minor updates to this version; however, I would bet the coding and program model has been altered to set them up for their future plans. GLA
And this new version uses [b]WAY[/b] less CPU resources!!!!!
Why cant't the beta be dowloaded (the ccd 3 beta was downloadable)
AND
the cebit is out now but there is no download
Olli probably want to fine tune it a bit more, there is some tiny bugs that could be squezed out.
i wonder if the register process is still easy to do and put a serial or keygen u dl and put that in without payying i know everyone is happy wit clonecd because 99% of u dont pay for it! :9
By far the best GUI and options! ELBY makes this version great for newbies and for advanced users. Can't wait to donwload it!!! :4
I just did a double-take on G@M3FR3@K's review and the postings. Either I'm missing something somewhere :r or it's not posted - but when should the final version be available??? :d
when will it come out for downloading???? when will it come out for downloading???? when will it come out for downloading????

oh yea, great article.:)

(*looks around to see if anyone is looking* ...erm...say india...that key generator u were talking about...where dya get it from?)
This seems good but why does it not like my Mitsumi 4804TE which in all prev vers was possibly the best writer to use with CCD IT fails to recognise it at all :(
I have 4.0 version, it seem to copy O.K., loaded good [2 disk game] but the game won't play with the copied cd, it will if I use original cd. help anyone?
I didn't care for the newest version of CloneCD:(... until I installed Perfect Copy SRIII.:+
After installation I immediately went to a disk that I hadn't been able to successfully after 5 or 6 attempts. Needless to say, the copy turned out PERFECT!!:G Now, I am a MOST satisfied CloneCD user, again!!!:4
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