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Posted by Jan S.
Posted on 22/09/04 17:18
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Advanced tests
 

To round off this review we will run some advanced tests on the Philips DVDR1640P. These tests are: 'Sheep Test", protected audio discs and some special disc test.

 

Copy protected data discs:

 


 

For this test, we will use the Sheep tests made by Alexander Noé. The sheep test, let us experiment with weak sectors, which was introduced with SafeDisc 2 - copy protection.

 

One of our forum moderators Womble have written a guide concerning the 'Sheep Test", and can be found here.

 

In the screenshot below take from CloneCD v4.3.2.2, we see the Philips DVDR1640P supports everything except 'Writing of CD+G RAW-DAO".

 

 

Philips DVDR1640P supports DAO-RAW96 recording mode, which basically means, it can write uncorrected data and subchannel data. Drive used to verify that the tests works are JLMS XJ-HD166S. Below are our results from the 'Sheep Tests":

 

Sheep Tests

Reader:
JLMS
XJ-HD166s

One Sheep Burner
SD2OLD

Yes

Two Sheep Burner
SD251

Yes

Safedisc v2.90
SD290

No

Three Sheep Burner
SHEEP3

No

 
 
 

As we can read from the table the Philips DVDR1649P is a 'Two Sheep Burner". But it failed to write the SafeDisc v2.90 and Sheep3 tests.

 

Copy protected Audio:

 


 

For our protected audio test we used the Exact Audio Copy program. We inserted the protected audio discs and if the drive was able to recognize the disc we tried to extract the music tracks to the hard drive. First let us look at the discs we had available for this test:

 

 

 

Herbert Gé¶nemeyer: Mensch - This disc is protected with Cactus Datashield 200.0.4 .3(build 12b)

 

 

And Celine Dion: A new day has come; protected with key2audio version 3.

 

Results:

 

Protected
Audio

Protection version

Exact Audio Copy

Herbert Gé¶nemeyer:
Mensch

Cactus data shield 200

Detects and rips the content
without any problems.

Celine Dion:
A new day has come

Key2Audio version 3

Detects and rips the content
without any problems.

 

The CD's was read at full speed without any problems.

 

Overburning:

 


 

To test the overburning capabilities of the Philips DVDR1640P, we used the overburning test in Nero CD/DVD-Speed. According to Nero CD/DVD speed the drive can overburn 99 minutes.

 

 

To make sure that it actually works we wrote a 99 minutes and 12 seconds long disc in Nero Burning ROM:

 

 

 It failed writing the lead out, so it wrote 99 minutes and 10 seconds using Nero CD-Speed;

 

 

No problems here, below you can find the reading test for the created disc:

 

  

 

Nice reading curve, except for the speed drop down at the end. The speed at the end of the CD was 42.82x (The drive is certified to 40x on CD-R).

 

8CM CD-R and pocket card CD-R discs:

 


 

Now we will try to read and write 8cm CD-R discs and credit card CD-R discs.

 

8cm CD-R disc:

 

 

 

Brand:

SONY

Manufacturer:

SONY Corporation

Code:

97m24s11f

Disc Type:

CD-R

Recording Layer:

Dye Type 1: Long Strategy (Cyanine, AZO)

Capacity:

22:48.01 (200.10MB)

Certified Speed:

Not specified

Write Speed:

24x CAV

Write Time:

1m:28s

 The Philips DVDR1640P did not have any problems with writing and reading the 8cm CD-R 200 MB disc.

Brand:

Intenso

Manufacturer:

Digital Storage Technology Co., Ltd.

Code:

97m27s01f

Disc Type:

CD-R

Recording Layer:

Dye Type 1: Long Strategy (Cyanine, AZO)

Capacity:

28:10.74 (247 MB)

Certified Speed:

Multispeed

Write Speed:

16X CLV

Write Time:

2m:08s

 

 

The Philips DVDR1640P did not have any problems with writing and reading the 8cm CD-R 250 MB disc.

 

Credit Card CD-R:

 

 

 

Brand:

Data Becker

Manufacturer:

Ricoh Company Limited

Code:

97m27s00f

Disc Type:

CD-R

Recording Layer:

Dye Type 0: Long Strategy (Cyanine, AZO)

Capacity:

04:41.00 (41 MB)

Certified Speed:

Not specified

Write Speed:

16x CLV

Write Time:

46s

 

 

The Philips DVDR1640P drive did not have any problems reading/writing the credit card disc either.

 

Now, that concludes our Philips review, head on to the last page to read our conclusion…

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*UPDATE* - Added two DVD+RW media. Can be found here:

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=108539
Something caught my attention... some of those scans seemed too good to be true, and I noticed that your sampling count was in the 13000 range. That's a whole order of magnitude lower than what it should be. Most KP scans have a sampling count in the range of 130000. Did you have realtime chart turned on during the scan? This will generally distort the error count downwards...
Thank you for fixing it. :X

Those +R results indeed look pretty nice. :) Wish I had one of these drives...
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