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Posted on 27/01/06 22:45
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DVD+R DL/ R DL Writing performance
 

DVD+R/-R Double Layer writing speed and compatibility:


The Philips DVDR1648 supports the DVD+R DL/-R DL standard for writing Double Layer/Dual Layer discs with a size around 8.5 GB at a writing speed of 8x/4x. Let us first take a look at the media's we will use:

Let's find the manufacturer and media information too, for this we will use CD-Speed:

This media is manufactured by Mitsubishi Kagaku Media. Thanks to Verbatim (D) for sending us this media.

The media is made by Ricoh Co. Ltd. (Made in Taiwan).  Thanks to Ricoh Europe (Germany) for sending us this media.

Testing procedure:
We created an ISO Image from a pre-authored DVD-Video compliant file set, with a total on-disc size of 8103 MB. We then wrote this image file using Nero Burning ROM 6. Below are the results:


Ricoh Media

Nero reported a successful burn with the Ricoh media in 28 minutes 26 seconds. According to the total writing time, there must be a slowdown at 4x since the writing time is too high for 8x.



Verbatim media

Nero once again completed the burn successfully with the Verbatim media in 15 minutes and 43 seconds.

Let us take a look at the K-Probe results:


Brand:

Ricoh - Thanks to Ricoh Europe (D)
for providing the sample.

Manufacturer:

Ricoh Co. Ltd.

Code:

RICOH JPN D01

Disc Type:

DVD+R DL

Capacity:

8103MB

Certified Speed:

8x

Write Speed:

8x (4x)

Write Time:

28m:26s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

31.41

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.03

According to KProbe the PI errors is higher in the near of the layer change then the rest of the disc.


Brand:

Verbatim - Thanks to Verbatim (D)
for providing the sample.

Manufacturer:

Mitsubishi Kagaku Media

Code:

MKM 003

Disc Type:

DVD+R DL

Capacity:

8103MB

Certified Speed:

8x

Write Speed:

8x

Write Time:

15m:43s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

9.93

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.01

Excellent result!

Let us compare the Philips DVDR1648 results with some other DL capable drives.

Drive

Size

Writing
Speed

Writing
Time

Book
Type

KProbe
avg.
PI

KProbe
avg.
PIF

LG
GSA-5160D

8103 MB

2.4x

44m:25s
44m:41s

DVD-ROM

2.19
18.63

0.04
0.04*2

ASUS
DRW-1604P

8131 MB

4x

26m:58s

DVD-ROM

3.29

0.18

Samsung
TS-E522U

8103MB

6x
Z-CLV

23m:30s

DVD+DL

11.58

0.03*1

Philips
DVDR16LS

8103MB

2.4x

45m:52s

DVD-ROM

2.28

0.04*

NU
HDW-164

8103MB

4x

37m:00s

DVD-ROM

1.89

0.02*1

NEC
ND-3540A

8103MB

2.4x
2.4x
8x

44m:08s
44m:03s
19m:02

DVD-ROM

37.44
12.36
1.91

0.02*3
0.02*2
0.01*1

BenQ
DW1640

8152Mb

8x

15m:36s

DVD-ROM

3.26

0.02

Pioneer
DVR-110D


8145MB

2.4x
2.4x
8x
2.4x

45m:13s
45m:29s
18m:04s
45m:15s

DVD-ROM

5.51
20.45
2.16
4.39

0.10*3
0.23*2
0.04*1
0.08*4

LG
GSA-4167B

8103MB

2.4x
2.4x
8x(4x)

44m:48s
44m:19s
28m:49s

DVD-ROM

14.15
81.01
7.71

0.02*3
0.64*2
0.01*1

Philips
DVDR1648

8103MB

8x (4x)
8x

 

DVD-ROM

31.41
3.93

0.03*3
0.01*1

*1 Verbatim DVD+R DL
*2 Traxdata DVD+R DL
*3 Ricoh DVD+R DL
*4 DataWrite DVD+R DL

DVD-R DL:

As mentioned in the beginning of this page, the Philips DVDR1648 supports the DVD-R DL standard at 4x. Let us first take a look at the media we will use:

Let's find the manufacturer and media information too, for this we will use CD-Speed:

This media is manufactured by Mitsubishi Kagaku Media. Thanks to Verbatim for sending us this media.

Again, we used Nero Burning Rom 6 to write the DVD Image:

The Philips DVDR1648 used 30 minutes and 14 seconds to write the Verbatim DVD-R DL 4x media at 4x.

Brand:

Verbatim - Thanks to Verbatim for providing the sample.

Manufacturer:

Mitsubishi Kagaku Media

Code:

MKM 01RD30 

Disc Type:

DVD-R DL

Capacity:

8103MB

Certified Speed:

4x

Write Speed:

4x

Write Time:

30m:14s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

10.71

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.02

Overall this media was burned with good quality.

 

Standalone DVD-Player compatibility:


We only have 3 standalone DVD-Players and 1 standalone DVD+R/W recorder available to test the DVD+R DL media (BookType: DVD-ROM) and the DVD-R DL media (BookType: DVD-R) with:

  • Aiwa DVD Player XD-DV370
  • Medion DVD/DivX Player MD7457
  • Medion DVD/DivX/NeroDigital Player MD80796  
  • Red Star DVD-Player 230G
  • Mustek R100A DVD+R/W Recorder

Compatibility results: 

Drive

Ricoh
DVD+R DL

Verbatim
DVD+R DL

Verbatim
DVD-R DL

Comments

Aiwa
XD-DV370

OK

OK

OK

No problems

Medion
MD7457

OK

OK

FAILED

Reports disc as DVD-Video, but not playable

Medion
MD80796

OK

 

FAILED

Reports disc as DVD-Video, but not playable

Mustek
R100A

OK

OK

FAILED

Reports ?NO DISC?

Red Star
230G

OK

OK

FAILED

Reports disc as DVD-Video, but not playable

All DVD Standalone devices played both the Philips DVDR1648 burned DVD+R DL media. But only one DVD Standalone devices would play the DVD-R DL media.

We would like to mention, that the compatibility issue with standalone DVD Players/Recorders and the DVD-R DL media format is caused by incompatibilities with the standalone devices used in this review, and not the Philips DVDR1648 or media format used.

Summary: Good writing quality on the Verbatim DVD+R DL/-R DL media. The DVD standalone compatibility results, for the DVD+R DL media is very good.

Before we round off this review, let us run the drive through some advanced tests at next page…

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Reactions on this item
My first CD drive was the good old Philips 3610 (no overspeed at the time).

Its a pitty it doesn't support DVD-RAM and maybe LS or LF (to write labels).
Is this drive equivalent of BenQ DW1650?
^dw1640 i believe
Yes, curious that the review fails to make direct comparisons to its BenQ equivalent.

Otherwise, like all cdfreaks.com reviews, it's well done.
Did you realize the PI-8 errors and PI-1 failures , they r the lowest numbers i've ever seen, they proof that PHILIPS iDVDR1648 s the best.
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