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Posted on 29/06/04 02:46
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CD R writing performance and quality
 

The specifications of the Philips DVDRW885 state that the drive is able to write CD-R discs at 24x. Let us find out how the drive really performs in speed and quality.

Writing Data CD-R discs:


For our data writing tests, we simply set up a new compilation of 700Mb using Nero Burning ROM software. Writing method used is DAO (Disc At Once), and the disc is set up as a non-multisession disc with 'finalize disc" enabled. The screenshot below shows how long it takes to write a disc at the highest speed. (24x):

 

The drive used 4 minutes and 1 second to write the disc at 24x. Let us see how this compares to other drives; the NU DDW-082 used 3 minutes and 2 seconds for the same writing operation at 40x speed, and the Plextor PX-708A used 2 minutes and 58 seconds at 40x. the low writing speed of only 24x makes this drive noticeably slower than most other drives.

Write Quality:


We will test CD-R discs from a total of 11 different CD-R manufacturers. To really measure the write speed, we used the 'create data CD" function in Nero CD-Speed. The discs were written at the maximum speed that the drive supports. For the quality test, we used K-Probe 2 which is a tool developed by a Lite-On Employee. It runs under Windows and works with drives made by Lite-On. Also note that different drives and different reading speeds may affect the results obtained when scanning the discs. We used a Lite-On LTR-52246S drive with firmware 6S0F and scanned the discs at 48X speed.

A written CD-R disc will always have some C1 errors; C1 errors are easily corrected by the drive's error correction capabilities. The next level of errors is C2, while C2 errors could also be corrected by most drive's error correction capabilities; they are not wanted on a good quality disc. A good disc should not contain any C2 errors, and preferably have an average C1 error amount of below 2.0 for the best discs, or at least below 10.0 average for good quality discs. After C2 errors there are only un-correctable errors that will make a disc unusable.

Why wait any longer? Below are the obtained results:

 

Brand:

Memorex, thanks to Memorex for providing it.

Manufacturer:

CMC Magnetics

Code:

97m26s66f

Disc Type:

CD-R

Recording Layer:

Dye Type 6: Short Strategy (Phthalocyanine)

Capacity:

79:59.73 (703MB)

Certified Speed:

48x

Write Speed:

24x

Write Time:

3m:59s

C1 Average/Sec:

1.82

C2 Average/Sec:

0.0

CMC Magnetics is not known for making the best CD-R discs but the Philips DVDRW885 did okay with this media and should not cause you any problems.

 

Brand:

MMORE

Manufacturer:

Moser Baer India

Code:

97m17s06f

Disc Type:

CD-R

Recording Layer:

Dye Type 6: Short Strategy (Phthalocyanine)

Capacity:

79:59.74 (703MB)

Certified Speed:

52x

Write Speed:

24x

Write Time:

4m:00s

C1 Average/Sec:

1.01

C2 Average/Sec:

0.0

Very good, should not cause you any trouble.

 

Brand:

Verbatim Data Life Plus

Manufacturer:

Mitsubishi by Moser Baer India.

Code:

97m34s23f

Disc Type:

CD-R

Recording Layer:

Dye Type 3: Long Strategy (Cyanine or AZO)

Capacity:

79:59.73 (703MB)

Certified Speed:

48x

Write Speed:

24x

Write Time:

4m:00s

C1 Average/Sec:

2.34

C2 Average/Sec:

0.0

As we could see it starts out with incorrect writing strategy but quickly adjusts it. But there is room for improvements as most other drives works pretty good with this media type.

 

Brand:

That's Write - Thanks to That's Write for providing it.

Manufacturer:

Ritek (JS Dye)

Code:

97m15s17f

Disc Type:

CD-R

Recording Layer:

Dye Type 7: Short Strategy (Phthalocyanine)

Capacity:

79:59.70 (703MB)

Certified Speed:

48x

Write Speed:

24x

Write Time:

3m:59s

C1 Average/Sec:

0.53

C2 Average/Sec:

0.0

Very good and you should not have any problems with this media type either.

 

Brand:

Plextor

Manufacturer:

Taiyo Yuden

Code:

97m24s01f

Disc Type:

CD-R

Recording Layer:

Dye Type 1: Long Strategy (Cyanine or AZO)

Capacity:

79:59.72 (703MB)

Certified Speed:

48x

Write Speed:

24x

Write Time:

4m:00s

C1 Average/Sec:

0.22

C2 Average/Sec:

0.0

Perfect, just like it should be with Taiyo Yuden CD-R media.

 

Brand:

Memorex

Manufacturer:

Prodisc

Code:

97m32s19f

Disc Type:

CD-R

Recording Layer:

Dye Type 9: Short Strategy (Phthalocyanine)

Capacity:

79:59.72 (703MB)

Certified Speed:

48x

Write Speed:

24x

Write Time:

4m:01s

C1 Average/Sec:

0.72

C2 Average/Sec:

0.0

While some other writers have problems with these CD-R discs, the Philips DVDRW885 did not have any problems at all.

 

Brand:

Samsung

Manufacturer:

Plasmon Data Systems, Ltd.

Code:

97m27s18f

Disc Type:

CD-R

Recording Layer:

Dye Type 8: Short Strategy (Phthalocyanine)

Capacity:

79:59.74 (703MB)

Certified Speed:

48x

Write Speed:

24x

Write Time:

4m:01s

C1 Average/Sec:

4.08

C2 Average/Sec:

0.0

We have found these Samsung CD-R discs, manufactured by Plasmon, to be of very low quality. And as we could see their C1 error count is a bit higher than for most other discs, but far from worryingly high, and there were no C2 errors. So all in all there should not be any problems in practical use.

 

Brand:

Sony

Manufacturer:

Acer Media Technology / Daxon Inc

Code:

97m22s67f

Disc Type:

CD-R

Recording Layer:

Dye Type 7: Short Strategy (Phthalocyanine)

Capacity:

79:59.74 (703MB)

Certified Speed:

48x

Write Speed:

24x

Write Time:

4m:00s

C1 Average/Sec:

0.42

C2 Average/Sec:

0.0

Again a perfect result, highly recommended.

 

Brand:

Princo

Manufacturer:

Princo

Code:

97m27s28f

Disc Type:

CD-R

Recording Layer:

Dye Type 8: Short Strategy (Phthalocyanine)

Capacity:

79:59.74 (703MB)

Certified Speed:

48x

Write Speed:

24x

Write Time:

4m:01s

C1 Average/Sec:

10.71

C2 Average/Sec:

0.0

Princo is not known for making the best quality discs, and as we could see there are problems in the beginning as the Philips DVDRW885 starts out with wrong writing strategy. The Philips DVDRW is able to adjust the writing strategy while writing, but we would still like to see a correctly tuned writing strategy from the start of the disc.

 

Brand:

Fujifilm

Manufacturer:

Fuji Photo Film Co.

Code:

97m26s45f

Disc Type:

CD-R

Recording Layer:

Dye Type 5: Short Strategy (Phthalocyanine)

Capacity:

79:59.73 (703MB)

Certified Speed:

52x

Write Speed:

24x

Write Time:

4m:00s

C1 Average/Sec:

0.24

C2 Average/Sec:

0.0

Perfect - just like it should be with these high quality Fujifilm CD-R discs manufactured in Germany. This media is just as good as or better than Taiyo Yuden in our opinion.

 

Brand:

TDK Speed-X

Manufacturer:

TDK Corp

Code:

97m15s05f

Disc Type:

CD-R

Recording Layer:

Dye Type 5: Short Strategy (Phthalocyanine)

Capacity:

79:59.74 (703MB)

Certified Speed:

48x

Write Speed:

24x

Write Time:

4m:01s

C1 Average/Sec:

9.63

C2 Average/Sec:

0.0

While TDK is a well-known brand in larger parts of the world, their own manufactured CD-R discs may not be so well known, as they are mostly only available in Europe. As we could see the C1 amount is a bit higher than for most other discs.

Summary:
Overall it does the job, but nothing more. It's not the best writer we have had, especially considering the low writing speed of only 24x.

But after all, it's a DVD-Writer, so head on to next page and read about DVD-Writing performance and DVD media compatibility…

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Reactions on this item
Looks like somebody didn't get a defective drive to review on this one :+
:) very nice review. can we expect a review of the NEC-2510A as well since that drive has been on the market for quite a while already AND is available in larger quantities? any ETA for the philips drive?
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