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Posted on 07/06/05 17:18
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CD R/RW writing performance
 

The specifications of the Pioneer DVR-109 state that the drive is able to write CD-R discs at 40x. Let us find out how the drive really performs in speed and quality.

Writing Data CD-R discs:


Let us first take a look at the CD-R write technology used by the Pioneer DVR-109:

 

As we could see, the Pioneer DVR-109 uses CAV (Constant Angular Velocity) to write at its rated speed of 40x, this gives an average speed of 30.39x. This seems to be average for a 40x CD-Writer.

 

The Mad Dog MD-16XDVD9 uses CAV (Constant Angular Velocity) to write at its rated speed of 48x. This gives an average speed of 36.38x.

 

As we could see the Plextor PX-712A uses CAV (Constant Angular Velocity) writing strategy to reach it rated speed of 48X. This gives an average speed of 36.43x.

And as a last test we wrote a disc containing 700Mb using Nero Burning ROM software. Writing method used is DAO (Disc At Once), and the disc is set up as a non multi-session disc with 'finalize disc" enabled.

 

The Pioneer DVR-109 used 3 minutes and 31 seconds to write the disc at 40x. Let us see how this compares to other drives:

CD-R
Disc
Writing

Supported
Write
Speed

Write
Strategy

Start
Write
Speed

End
Write
 Speed

Average
 Write 
Speed

Write
 Time 
700Mb
CD-Speed

Write
Time
700Mb
Nero

BenQ
DW1620A

40x

CAV

17.75x

40.61x

29.37x

3m:24s

3m:23s

Pioneer
DVR-A08XLA

32x

Z-CLV
3 zones

16.03x

32.20x

24.94x

4m:00s

4m:15s

Samsung
TS-H522B

40x

P-CAV

20.91x

39.55x

34.27x

2m:47s

2m:49s

Mad Dog
MD-16XDVD9

48x

CAV

21.41x

48.16x

36.38x

2m:56s

2m:58s

Philips
ED16DVDR

48x

CAV

18.98x

42.88x

32.47x

3m:01s

3m:03s

Memorex
F16

48x

CAV

21.74x

49.42x

37.23x

2m:37s

3m:11s

AOpen
DUW1608/ARR

48x

CAV

22.07x

49.66x

37.69x

2m:44s

2m:47s

LG
GSA-4163B

40x

Z-CLV
4 zones

16.01x

40.48x

31.76x

3m:15s

3m:15s

LG
GSA-5163D

40x

Z-CLV
4 zones

16.00x

40.91x

31.74x

3m:23s

3m:17s

Lite-On
SOHW-1673S

48x

CAV

21.86x

49.31x

37.38x

2m:39s

2m:47s

Pioneer
DVR-109

40x

CAV

17.10x

40.87x

30.39x

3m:21s

3m:31s

It's among the slower drives due to the writing speed of only 40x, we would like to see 48x like the majority of other drives offer.

Write Quality:


We will test CD-R discs from a total of 8 different CD-R manufacturers. To really measure the write speed, we used the 'create data CD" function in Nero CD-Speed. The discs were written at the maximum speed that the drive supports. For the quality test, we used K-Probe 2 which is a tool developed by a Lite-On employee. It runs under Windows and works with drives made by Lite-On. Also note that different drives and different reading speeds may affect the results obtained when scanning the discs. We used a Lite-On LTR-52246S drive with firmware 6S0F and scanned the discs at 48X speed.

A written CD-R disc will always have some C1 errors; C1 errors are easily corrected by the drive's error correction capabilities. The next level of errors is C2, while C2 errors could also be corrected by most drive's error correction capabilities; they are not wanted on a good quality disc. A good disc should not contain any C2 errors, and preferably have an average C1 error amount of below 2.0 for the best discs, or at least below 10.0 average for good quality discs. After C2 errors there are only un-correctable errors that will make a disc unusable.

Why wait any longer? Below are the obtained results:

 

Brand:

Memorex, thanks to Memorex for providing it.

Manufacturer:

CMC Magnetics

Code:

97m26s66f

Disc Type:

CD-R

Recording Layer:

Dye Type 6: Short Strategy (Phthalocyanine)

Capacity:

79:59.73 (703MB)

Certified Speed:

48x

Write Speed:

40x

Write Time:

3m:27s

C1 Average/Sec:

1.99

C2 Average/Sec:

0.0

CMC Magnetics is not known for making the best CD-R discs, but the result with the Pioneer DVR-109 is pretty good.

 

Brand:

MMORE

Manufacturer:

Moser Baer India

Code:

97m17s06f

Disc Type:

CD-R

Recording Layer:

Dye Type 6: Short Strategy (Phthalocyanine)

Capacity:

79:59.74 (703MB)

Certified Speed:

52x

Write Speed:

32x P-CAV

Write Time:

3m:32s

C1 Average/Sec:

0.79

C2 Average/Sec:

0.0

Wrote at 32x P-CAV only, but the quality is very good.

 

Brand:

Verbatim Data Life Plus

Manufacturer:

Moser Baer India for Mitsubishi.

Code:

97m34s23f

Disc Type:

CD-R

Recording Layer:

Dye Type 3: Long Strategy (Cyanine or AZO)

Capacity:

79:59.73 (703MB)

Certified Speed:

52x

Write Speed:

40x

Write Time:

3m:31s

C1 Average/Sec:

1.08

C2 Average/Sec:

0.0

Good quality with Mitsubishi/Verbatim media, highly recommended.

 

Brand:

Traxdata - thanks to conrexx for providing it

Manufacturer:

Ritek (JS Dye)

Code:

97m15s17f

Disc Type:

CD-R

Recording Layer:

Dye Type 7: Short Strategy (Phthalocyanine)

Capacity:

79:59.70 (703MB)

Certified Speed:

52x

Write Speed:

32x Z-CLV

Write Time:

4m:14s

C1 Average/Sec:

0.20

C2 Average/Sec:

0.00

The result with the Ritek CD-R media is very good, but it unfortunately only written at 32x Z-CLV.

 

Brand:

Miflop Extreme - Thanks to Miflop for providing it

Manufacturer:

Taiyo Yuden

Code:

97m24s01f

Disc Type:

CD-R

Recording Layer:

Dye Type 1: Long Strategy (Cyanine or AZO)

Capacity:

79:59.72 (703MB)

Certified Speed:

52x

Write Speed:

40x

Write Time:

3m:21s

C1 Average/Sec:

0.91

C2 Average/Sec:

0.00

Good, but there is a noticeable increase in C1 errors at the end. We did try two discs of different brands with the same problem at the end, so we believe it's a problem with the drive.

 

Brand:

Prodisc

Manufacturer:

Prodisc

Code:

97m32s19f

Disc Type:

CD-R

Recording Layer:

Dye Type 9: Short Strategy (Phthalocyanine)

Capacity:

79:59.71 (703MB)

Certified Speed:

52x

Write Speed:

32x P-CAV

Write Time:

3m:35s

C1 Average/Sec:

0.71

C2 Average/Sec:

0.00

The result is good, but it wrote at 32x P-CAV only.

 

Brand:

Miflop Lite - thanks to Miflop for providing it.

Manufacturer:

Digital Data Storage (using generic plasmon ID)

Code:

97m27s18f

Disc Type:

CD-R

Recording Layer:

Dye Type 8: Short Strategy (Phthalocyanine)

Capacity:

79:59.74 (703MB)

Certified Speed:

52x

Write Speed:

32x Z-CLV

Write Time:

4m:12s

C1 Average/Sec:

3.27

C2 Average/Sec:

0.00

Not the highest quality media, but the result is still ok - although only at 32x. Strange that it now wrote using Z-CLV strategy.

Brand:

BenQ, thanks to Daxon for providing it

Manufacturer:

Daxon (but with Hitachi Maxell ATIP)

Code:

97m25s29f

Disc Type:

CD-R

Recording Layer:

Dye Type 9: Short Strategy (Phthalocyanine)

Capacity:

79:59.74 (703MB)

Certified Speed:

52x

Write Speed:

32x Z-CLV

Write Time:

4m:11s

C1 Average/Sec:

2.32

C2 Average/Sec:

0.0

Wrote at 32x Z-CLV only, but the result is pretty good.

CD-ReWritable:


The Pioneer DVR-109 supports a CD-ReWriting speed of 24x, let us see how this compares to other writers. Let us start with taking a look at the writing strategy it uses:

 

The Pioneer DVR-109 uses Z-CLV, (Zone-Constant Linear Velocity), to write at its rated speed of 24x, this gives an average speed of 22.45x. This seems to be about average compared to other drives, but let us include some other results for comparison.

 

The Pioneer DVR-107D uses Z-CLV, (Zone-Constant Linear Velocity), to write at its rated speed of 24x, this gives an average speed of 22.47x.

 

The Plextor PX-712A, with its P-CAV (Partial-Constant Angular Velocity) write speed of 24X for Ultra Speed CD-RW discs is among the faster writers due to its high starting speed of 21.12x.

And we did also write a disc in Nero Burning ROM, the compilation we made was 650Mb large and we wrote the disc with the Disc At Once write method.

 

The Pioneer DVR-109 used 4 minutes and 14 seconds for writing the disc at 24x, let us compare this to some other writers:

CD-RW
Disc
Writing

Supported
Write
Speed

Write
Strategy

Start
Write
Speed

End
Write
 Speed

Average
 Write 
Speed

Write
 Time 
CD-Speed 80min

Write
Time
Nero
74min

Plextor
PX-712A

24x

P-CAV

21.12x

24.00x

23.89x

3m:40s

3m:34s

Philips
DVDR1640P

24x

P-CAV

17.74x

25.20x

23.13x

3m:56s

3m:41s

BenQ
DW1620A

24x

P-CAV

17.73x

24.54x

23.14x

3m:54s

3m:40s

Pioneer
DVR-A08XLA

24x

Z-CLV
3 zones

16.00x

24.06x

22.47x

4m:04s

4m:00s

Samsung
TS-H552B

32x

P-CAV

20.94x

31.85x

30.21x

3m:10s

 -

Mad Dog
MD-16XDVD9

24x

Z-CLV
2 zones

20.08x

24.01x

23.68x

3m:52s*

3m:53s

Philips
ED16DVDR

24x

Z-CLV
2 Zones

16.04x

24.07x

22.63x

4m:10s

 -

AOpen
DUW1608/ARR

24x

Z-CLV
3 Zones

16.01x

24.03x

22.06x

4m:17s

 -

LG
GSA-4163B

24x

Z-CLV
2 Zones

16.01x

23.80x

23.35x

3m:54s

 -

LG
GSA-5163D

24x

Z-CLV
2 Zones

16.00x

24.00x

23.33x

3m:57s

3m:34s

Lite-On
SOHW-1673S

24x

Z-CLV
2 Zones

16.00x

24.04x

22.58x

4m:24s

4m:06s

Pioneer
DVR-109

24x

Z-ZLV
3 Zones

15.99x

24.03x

22.45x

4m:08s

4m:14s

Among the slower drives, partly due to a bit slow Z-CLV writing strategy. But let us take a look at the writing quality with two CD-RW discs.

 

Brand:

Verbatim Data Life Plus

Manufacturer:

CMC Magnetics, but with Mitsubishi dye and ATIP

Code:

97m34s24f

Disc Type:

US CD-RW

Recording Layer:

Dye Type 4: Long Strategy (Phase Change)

Capacity:

79:59.74 (703MB)

Certified Speed:

24x

Write Speed:

24x

Write Time:

4m:08s

C1 Average/Sec:

62.36

C2 Average/Sec:

0.0

No C2 errors, but still not the best result we have seen with this disc type. But we have seen much worse results as well.

Brand:

That's Write

Manufacturer:

Plasmon data systems

Code:

97m27s12f

Disc Type:

US CD-RW

Recording Layer:

Dye Type 2: Long Strategy (Phase Change)

Capacity:

74:41.00 (656MB)

Certified Speed:

24x

Write Speed:

24x

Write Time:

4m:14s

C1 Average/Sec:

875.10

C2 Average/Sec:

0.02

Low quality discs, and as we could see the result is not good at all.

Summary:
We do not have any complaints about CD-R writing quality, but CD-RW writing quality could be improved. But the drawbacks are that it writes CD-R discs at 40x only, and that very few discs is supported at this speed. Most discs are supported at 32x Z-CLV or 32x CAV only.

But after all, it's a DVD-Writer, so head on to next page and read about DVD-Writing performance and DVD media compatibility…

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