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| Posted by | Wendy Collins |
| Posted on | 02/12/05 00:26 |
| Number of views | 9510 |
DVD-R media compatibility and write quality:
In these tests we will be using a Lite-On SHW-1635S drive with firmware YS0N along with K-Probe to measure the disc quality. We will also be using the NEC ND-3540A with firmware 1.03 along with CD-Speed for our read-back tests.
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Brand: |
Taiyo Yuden unbranded - Thanks to SVP (UK) for sending us this media. |
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Manufacturer: |
Taiyo Yuden |
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Code: |
TYG03 |
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Disc Type: |
DVD-R |
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Capacity: |
4483MB |
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Certified Speed: |
16x |
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Write Speed: |
16x |
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Write Time: |
6m:02s |
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PI-8 errors Average/Sec: |
1.91 |
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PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec: |
0.01 |
The result is very good.
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Brand: |
Verbatim - Thanks to Pioneer for providing this sample. |
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Manufacturer: |
Mitsubishi Chemical Corporation |
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Code: |
MCC 03RG20 |
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Disc Type: |
DVD-R |
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Capacity: |
4483MB |
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Certified Speed: |
16x |
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Write Speed: |
16x |
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Write Time: |
6m:01s |
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PI-8 errors Average/Sec: |
0.82 |
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PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec: |
0.01 |
Overall low level of PI and PIF errors makes this an excellent quality burn. Highly recommended!
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Brand: |
Ricoh - Thanks to Ricoh Europe for sending us this media. |
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Manufacturer: |
CMC Magnetics |
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Code: |
CMC MAG AM3 |
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Disc Type: |
DVD-R |
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Capacity: |
4483MB |
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Certified Speed: |
16x |
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Write Speed: |
16x |
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Write Time: |
5m:57s |
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PI-8 errors Average/Sec: |
3.15 |
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PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec: |
0.19 |
Another good result.
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Brand: |
Taiyo Yuden unbranded - Thanks to SVP (UK) for sending us this media. |
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Manufacturer: |
Taiyo Yuden |
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Code: |
TYG02 |
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Disc Type: |
DVD-R |
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Capacity: |
4483MB |
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Certified Speed: |
8x |
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Write Speed: |
12x (Z-CLV) |
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Write Time: |
7m:22s |
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PI-8 errors Average/Sec: |
3.54 |
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PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec: |
0.00 |
The PIF errors are astonishingly low, and the read-back curve is perfect. An excellent result. Highly recommended!
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Brand: |
Memorex - Thanks to Memorex Europe for sending us this media |
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Manufacturer: |
RITEK |
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Code: |
RITEK G05 |
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Disc Type: |
DVD-R |
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Capacity: |
4483MB |
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Certified Speed: |
8x |
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Write Speed: |
8x (Z-CLV) |
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Write Time: |
8m:20s |
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PI-8 errors Average/Sec: |
12.24 |
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PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec: |
0.07 |
Memorex branded media with RITEK media code. The result is good.
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Brand: |
Ricoh - Thanks to Ricoh Europe for sending us this media |
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Manufacturer: |
CMC Magnetics |
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Code: |
CMC MAGAE1 |
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Disc Type: |
DVD-R |
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Capacity: |
4483MB |
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Certified Speed: |
8x |
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Write Speed: |
12x (Z-CLV) |
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Write Time: |
7m:24s |
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PI-8 errors Average/Sec: |
21.07 |
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PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec: |
0.08 |
PI levels are quite high throughout the disc but well within specification, and we have a perfect read-back curve. The result is good.
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Brand: |
Emgeton - Thanks to Bell Technology for sending us this media |
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Manufacturer: |
Infomedia |
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Code: |
INFOMEDIA R20 |
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Disc Type: |
DVD-R |
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Capacity: |
4483MB |
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Certified Speed: |
8x |
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Write Speed: |
4x (CLV) |
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Write Time: |
15m:04s |
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PI-8 errors Average/Sec: |
10.56 |
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PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec: |
0.15 |
The result is quite good on this difficult to handle media, but the disc was only burned at 4x
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Brand: |
Traxdata - Thanks to Conrexx for sending us this media |
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Manufacturer: |
RITEK |
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Code: |
RITEK F1 |
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Disc Type: |
DVD-R |
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Capacity: |
4483MB |
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Certified Speed: |
16x |
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Write Speed: |
12x (Z-CLV) |
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Write Time: |
7m:24s |
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PI-8 errors Average/Sec: |
4.49 |
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PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec: |
0.10 |
The PI error levels are quite high at the start of the burn and PIF levels are fairly constant throughout the burn. The read-back test is perfect, another good result.
DVD-ReWritable media:
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Brand: |
Traxdata - Thanks to Conrexx Europe for sending us this media. |
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Manufacturer: |
RITEK |
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Code: |
RITEK W06 |
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Disc Type: |
DVD-RW |
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Capacity: |
4483MB |
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Certified Speed: |
6x |
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Write Speed: |
6x (CLV) |
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Write Time: |
9m:53s |
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PI-8 errors Average/Sec: |
3.49 |
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PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec: |
0.15 |
The Pioneer DVR-110 has handled the Traxdata DVD-RW media well. A very good result.
To sum it up: Overall, the write quality is very good on DVD-R and DVD-RW media.
Head on to next page and read about DVD+R DL compatibility and write quality...
DVD+R/RW Writing performance
A nice drive - nothing new
Thank you for your obviously informed opinion.
It's a DVD burner, what did one expect it to look like? Paris Hilton perhaps?
[edited by Dee-27 on 03.12.2005 17:34]
[edited by Dee-27 on 03.12.2005 17:42]
Why should "geeks beware"? I don't see how the pioneer dvr110 review should concern people who bite the heads off live chickens.
Doesn't matter since crossflashing wer mad epossible.
More important is the line "Made in ****".
I bought this DVD burner at EZBuy Club for around $40. Also they have it in black! 
Could not the web master go back to school or at least by a good CSS - XHTML book and put a proper printer version of the article and all other articles and reviews up on this site?!
It is tough for many of us to read such a long article online and many I know would love a WORKING print option other than just printing one pasgte at a time.
Many thanks otherwise.
On IE 6.02 + you can print some of the individual pages but not the whole article or review.
Please fix this to make and otherwise great site even better.
Many thanks for Dee's fabulous effort at dissecting this drive.
I now have a better appreciation of the printing problems for these reviews too as each section is between 11 and 28 pages long wit hteh standard formating, making for over 100 + pages to print the whole thing!
As a suggestion have you thought about making these reviews into PDFs for download and printing aming for significantly smaller page numbers.
You might even put all the text and tablular data in a sparate PDF and the graphics in another.
Some such option would be appreciated.
Cheers!
Dee-27, can you help us out on this one? Your cdfreaks.pricegrabber link only points to DVR-110D retailers (some retailers call the burner the "DVR-110", but when you look at the details, it's always the DVR-110D). Too bad Pioneer hadn't just gone to DVR-110E or something to reduce confusion.
DVR-110D, DVR-R100 (DVD-RAM read only)
DVR-110, DVR A10 (DVD-RAM read and write)
I have no idea why the DVR-110 is hard to find in the USA.
There is good stocks of this drive in Europe.
Then after some hunting around on other forums, I finally figured it out: ASUS re-brands the Pioneer DVR-110 as the ASUS DRW-1608P2S (and also re-brands the Pioneer DVR-110D as the ASUS DRW-1608P2). So it appears that Pioneer doesn't market it directly in the US, letting ASUS do that. It's the same drive, as it can be flashed with the exact same Pioneer firmware updates, and it explicitly advertises the DVD-RAM 5X write capability. I found it at NewEgg.com as low as $42 US.
However, I'm now comparing the Pioneer with the LG 4167B, which is very similar in nearly every way in terms of features, performance and price.
My goal is purely DVD data backup, and comparing the reviews here on CDfreaks, and also on other sites, everyone consistently says that the LG 4167B is slightly better than the Pioneer from a writing compatibility standpoint (and seemed about the same good quailty on writing).
And both drives seem to work fine on Macs, which is what I have. I had initially leaned toward the Pioneer since most Macs ship with Pioneer, but Mac OS X 10.3.9 doesn't natively support this particular Pioneer. Both work fine with patchburn, so no real advantage for Pioneer vs. LG.
Anybody have a strong opinion either way between the "Pioneer DVR-110/ASUS DRW-1608P2S" and the "LG 4167B", when the goal is purely DVD backup (ie. don't care about read speeds nor DL, etc.)?
I just downloaded "game cloner ver 1.20" to back up my games but when I run the software it come up on the screen "Burner find, but is invalid.
I have a pioneer dvd-rw dvr110. Can anyone help.
Mic
i just buy EMTEC DVD-RW 4.7go //120min//4x
and my DVR-110 doesn't reconize this DVD
It ok with Verbatim DVD-RW 6X
if you have any explication
Thanks a Lot
Philippe (from France)
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