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Posted by Wendy Collins
Posted on 02/12/05 00:26
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Test machine:


For this review we will be using a computer with the following configuration:

Hardware:

         Motherboard: ASUSTeK A8N-SLI DELUXE (nForce 4 SLI chipset)
         Processor: AMD Athlon 64 3500+ (Venice) 800 MHz FSB.
         RAM: 2 GB Corsair TWINX 2CL DDR
         GFX: Leadtek Winfast  6600 TD (PCI Express nVidia)
         Sound: SoundBlaster Audigy 2
         Hard disk: 1X 200GB Seagate Barracuda (SATA): 1X 120GB Maxtor (SATA).

System set-up:

The Pioneer DVR-110 was connected as Secondary Master and identified itself as PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110. DMA (Direct Memory Access) and autorun was enabled for all devices.

NOTE: This motherboard has 8 IDE channels; although the screenshot states the Pioneer DVR-110 is connected to a Primary IDE channel. It is in fact connected as Secondary Master

And another screenshot from Nero InfoTool below:

From the screenshot of Nero InfoTool above, we can see DVD-RAM read/write is supported but we miss Mt.Rainier support and a larger buffer size. Our drive came shipped with firmware version 1.22

Software:

Windows XP Professional is installed on the computer along with Service Pack 2 for Windows XP. We will be using the following software in this review:

Features and techniques:


As we can see in the above screenshot, the Pioneer DVR-110 is based on a NEC chipset.

Pioneer uses Active OPC Technology with its optical hardware. Active OPC constantly monitors the sensitivity of the media and adjusts the laser strength to achieve the best possible results. It does this by analyzing the reflection from the media's surface.

Disc Writing Technology:


In the following tests, we take a look at the disc writing technology used by the Pioneer DVR-110.

For these tests we simple burned a disc with Nero CD-Speed's 'create data disc" function.

CD-Recordable:

The Pioneer DVR-110 uses CAV (Constant Angular Velocity), to write at its maximum speed of 40x. This gives an average write speed of 30.12x, and as we can see, it took the Pioneer DVR-110 3 minutes 19 seconds to write the disc.

Below we have 3 other drives for comparison.

The Samsung SE-W164C uses CAV (Constant Angular Velocity), to write at its maximum speed of 48x. This gives an average write speed of 37.22x.

The Samsung TS-E552U uses P-CAV (Partial-Constant Angular Velocity) to write at its rated speed of 40x. This gives an average speed of 34.39x.

The LG GSA-5160D uses Z-CLV, (Zone-Constant Linear Velocity), to write at its maximum speed of 40X. The drive wrote the last zone at 40.41X and this gives an average speed of 31.70x.

 For comparison we have made the following table: 

CD-R
Disc
Writing

Supported
Write
Speed

Write
Strategy

Start
Write
Speed

End
Write
 Speed

Average
 Write 
Speed

Write
 Time 
Full 80min

LG
GSA-5160D

40x

Z-CLV
4 zones

15.98x

40.41x

31.70

3m:18s

Asus
DRW-1604P

32x

Z-CLV
3 zones

16.03x

32.66x

24.92x

3m:58s

Samsung
TS-E552U

40x

P-CAV

21.12x

39.59x

34.39x

2m:53s

Philips
DVDR16LS

40x

CAV

17.80x

40.01x

29.51x

3m:24s

NU
HDW-164

40x

CAV

18.60x

41.28x

31.23x

3m:09s

NEC
ND-3540A

48x

CAV

21.44x

48.17x

36.43x

3m:0s

BenQ
DW1640

48x

CAV

18.31x

47.99x

35.20x

2m:57s

Samsung
SH-W162C

48x

CAV

21.74x

48.23x

37.01x

2m:45s

Pioneer
DVR-110

40x

CAV

17.78x

40.79x

30.12x

3m:19s

As we can see from the table, the Pioneer DVR-110 is about average when it comes to writing CD-R's.

CD-Rewritable:

The Pioneer DVR-110 uses Z-CLV (Zone Constant Linear Velocity) to write CD-RW media at its maximum speed of 32x, with an average write speed of 24.90x and a total writing time of 4 minutes and 3 seconds

Below are some other drives for comparison.

The Samsung SE-W164C uses Z-CLV (Zone Constant Linear Velocity) to write CD-RW media at its maximum speed of 32x, with an average write speed of 28.32x and a total writing time of 3 minutes 35 seconds.

The NEC ND-3540A uses Z-CLV, (Zone-Constant Linear Velocity writing technology to write at 32X for CD-RW discs, the average speed is 29.75x.

The NU DHW-164 uses P-CAV (Partial-Constant Angular Velocity) writing technology to write at 24X for CD-RW discs, the average speed is 23.16x.

For a better overview we present the following comparison table:

CD-RW
Disc
Writing

Supported
Write
Speed

Write
Strategy

Start
Write
Speed

End
Write
 Speed

Average
 Write 
Speed

Write
 Time 
Full 80min

LG
GSA-5160D

24x

Z-CLV
2 zones

15.99x

23.99x

23.31x

3m:55s

ASUS
DRW-1604P

24x

Z-CLV
3 Zones

15.96x

24.00x

22.46x

4m:07s

Samsung
TS-E552U

32x

P-CAV

21.07x

31.87x

30.26x

3m:05s

Philips
DVDR16LS

24x

P-CAV

17.77x

24.01x

23.15x

3m:58s

NU
HDW-164

24x

P-CAV

15.39x

23.93x

23.16x

3m:49s

NEC
ND-3540A

32x

Z-CLV
4 Zones

20.11x

32.03x

29.75x

3m:32s

BenQ
DW1640

32x

P-CAV

21.26x

31.96x

30.33x

3m:10s

Samsung
SH-W162C

32x

Z-CLV
3 Zones

16.00x

32.02x

28.68x

3m:40s

Pioneer
DVR-110

32x

Z-CLV
3 Zones

16.00x

32.00x

24.90x

4m:03s

As we can see from the table, the Pioneer DVR-110 performed below average when writing CD-RW's.

16X DVD+R Writing speed:

The Pioneer DVR-110 uses CAV (Constant Angular Velocity) to write DVD+R at the maximum supported speed of 16x. This gives an average write speed of 11.62x and a writing time of 6 minutes 12 seconds.

16X DVD-R Writing speed:

The Pioneer DVR-110 uses CAV (Constant Angular Velocity) to write DVD-R at the maximum supported speed of 16x. This gives an average write speed of 11.59x and a writing time of 6 minutes and 1 second.

Below are some write graphs from some other drives for comparison.

The Samsung SE-W164C uses CAV (Constant Angular Velocity) to write DVD+R at the maximum supported speed of 16x. This gives an average write speed of 11.83x and a writing time of 5 minutes 38 seconds.

The NEC 3540A uses CAV (Constant Angular Velocity) to write DVD+R at 16x. This gives an average writing speed of 11.81x and a writing time of 5 minutes and 58 seconds.

The Philips DVDR16LS uses CAV, (Constant Angular Velocity) to write DVD+R at 16x. The average speed is 11.33x and total writing time is 6 minutes and 8 seconds. The average speed is lower and the writing time is higher than it could have been due to the Walking OPC generation 2 using some time to constantly adjust the writing quality, we could see this as constant dips in the speed curve.

The LG GSA-5160D uses Z-CLV, (Zone-Constant Linear Velocity) to write DVD+R at 16x. The average speed is 11.60x and total writing time is 6 minutes and 12 seconds.

The LG GSA-4163B uses P-CAV, (Partial-Constant Angular Velocity) to write DVD-R at 16x. The average speed is 12.90x and total writing time is 5 minutes and 20 seconds.

Below, we made a comparison table:

16x
DVDR
Disc
Writing

Supported
Write
Speed

Write
Strategy

Start
Write
Speed

End
Write
 Speed

Average
 Write 
Speed

Write
 Time 
Full 4.38Gb

LG
GSA-5160D

16x +R
8x -R

Z-CLV

6.00x
6.00x

15.88x
8.01x

11.60x
7.80x

6m:12s
8m:02s

ASUS
DRW-1604P

16x +R
16x -R

Z-CLV
4 Zones

6.01x
5.99x

16.04x
15.84x

10.29x
10.32x

6m:48s
6m:53s

Samsung
TS-E552U

16x +R
16x -R

CAV
N/A

6.75x
N/A

12.09x
N/A

11.11x
N/A

6m:00s*1
N/A

Philips
DVDR16LS

16x +R
8x -R

CAV
P-CAV

5.80x
6.70x

12.18x
8.01x

11.33x
7.80x

6m:08s
8m:12s

NU
HDW-164

16x +R
16x -R

CAV
CAV

6.66x
N/A

7.97x
N/A

9.32x
N/A

6m:55s*2
N/A

NEC
ND-3540A

16x +R
16x -R

CAV
CAV

6.70x
6.69x

16.06x
16.07x

11.81x
11.80x

5m:58s
5m:52s

BenQ
DW1640

16x +R
16x -R

CAV
CAV

5.70x
5.32x

15.95x
15.99x

11.53x
11.41x

5m:44s
6m:06s

Samsung
SH-W162C

16x +R
16x -R

CAV
CAV

6.70x
6.69x

16.04x
16.05x

11.78x
11.68x

5m:37s
5m:53s

Pioneer
DVR-110

16x +R
16x -R

CAV
CAV

6.32x
6.72x

16.09x
11.72x

11.62x
11.59x

6m:09s
6m:01s

*1 - Actual writing speed was max 14x due to USB-Bridge limitations.
*2 - Actual writing speed was max 13x due to USB-Bridge limitations.

From the table above, we can see that the Pioneer DVR-110 is around average when it comes to burning DVD±R media.

8X DVD+R DL writing speed:

The Pioneer DVR-110 supports 8x writing speed on DVD+R DL media.

The Pioneer DVR-110 uses Z-CLV, (Zone-Constant Linear Velocity) to write DVD+R DL at 8x. The average speed is 7.00x and total writing time is 18:06 minutes.

Below are two other drives for comparison.

The NEC ND-4550A uses Z-CLV (Zone Constant Linear Velocity) to write DVD+R DL media at 8x which gives an average write speed of 6.55x and a total write time of 18 minutes and 40 seconds.

The BenQ DW1640 uses P-CAV (Partial Constant Angular Velocity) to write DVD+R DL at its maximum speed of 8x. This gives an average write speed of 7.32x and a total write time of 15 minutes and 36 seconds.

8X DVD-R DL writing speed:

The Pioneer DVR-110 uses Z-CLV, (Zone Constant Linear Velocity) to write DVD-R DL at 8x. This gives an average writing speed of 7.06x and a total write time of 17 minutes and 55 seconds.

Below are two other drives for comparison.


The NEC ND-4550A uses Z-CLV (Zone Constant Linear Velocity) to write DVD-R DL media at 6x which gives an average write speed of 5.67x and a total write time of 20 minutes and 41 seconds.

The BenQ DW1640 uses CLV (Constant Linear Velocity) to write DVD-R DL at its maximum speed of 4x. This gives an average write speed of 3.74x and a total write time of 29 minutes and 56 seconds.

We present the table below for easy comparison.

 Drive

Size

Writing
Speed

Writing
Time

Book
Type

NEC
ND-4550A

8152MB

DVD+R DL 8x
DVD-R DL 6x

18m:40s
20m:41s

DVD-ROM
DVD-R

BenQ
DW1640A

8152MB

DVD+R DL 8x
DVD-R DL 4x

15m:36s
29m:56s

DVD-ROM
DVD-R

Pioneer
DVR-110

8152MB

DVD+R DL 8x
DVD-R DL 8x

18m:06s
17m:55s

DVD-ROM
DVD-R

The Pioneer DVR-110 is about average for 8x DVD+R DL writing speed, but is clearly the fastest drive at writing DVD-R DL media.

8X DVD+RW writing speed:

The Pioneer DVR-110 uses Z-CLV, (Zone-Constant Linear Velocity) to write DVD+RW at 8x. The average speed is 7.81x and total writing time is 8 minutes and 43 seconds.

Below are two drives for comparison.

The Samsung SE-W164C uses Z-CLV, (Zone-Constant Linear Velocity) to write DVD+RW at 8x. The average speed is 7.52x and total writing time is 7 minutes and 52 seconds.

The NEC ND-4550A uses Z-CLV, (Zone-Constant Linear Velocity) to write DVD+RW at 8x. The average speed is 7.98x and total writing time is 7 minutes and 15 seconds.

We made the table below for easy comparison.

DVD+RW
Drive

Writing
Speed

Average
Speed

Writing
Time

Samsung
SE-W164C

8x Z-CLV

7.52x

7m:52s

NEC
ND-4550A

8x Z-CLV

7.98x

7m:15s

Pioneer
DVR-110

8x Z-CLV

7.81x

8m:43s

The Pioneer DVR-110 was the slowest drive when it came to writing DVD+RW at 8x.

6X DVD-RW writing speed:

The Pioneer DVR-110 uses CLV, (Constant Linear Velocity) to write DVD-RW at 6x. The average speed is 6.01x and the total writing time is 9 minutes and 53 seconds.

Below are two other drives for comparison.

The Samsung SE-W164C uses Z-CLV, (Zoned Constant Linear Velocity) to write DVD-RW at 6x. The average speed is 5.88x and total writing time is 10 minutes 23 seconds.

The NEC ND-4550A uses Z-CLV, (Zoned Constant Linear Velocity) to write DVD-RW at 6x. The average speed is 5.80x and total writing time is 11 minutes 6 seconds.

We present the table below for easy comparison.

DVD-RW
Drive

Writing
Speed

Average
Speed

Writing
Time

Samsung
SE-W164C

6x Z-CLV

5.88x

10m:23s

NEC
ND-4550A

6x Z-CLV

5.80x

11m:06s

Pioneer
DVR-110

6x CLV

6.01x

9m:53s

As expected, with its 6x CLV write strategy, the Pioneer DVR-110 is the fastest drive when burning DVD-RW media.

5x DVD-RAM writing speed:

The Pioneer DVR-110 uses CLV (Constant Linear Velocity) to write DVD-RAM at its maximum speed of 5x. This resulted in an average write speed of 4.83x and a total write time of 11 minutes 28 seconds.

Below are two other drives for comparison.

The NEC ND-4550A uses CLV (Constant Linear Velocity) to write DVD-RAM at its maximum speed of 5x. This gives an average write speed of 4.87x and a total write time of 11 minutes 28 seconds.

The LG GSA-4167B uses P-CAV (Partial Constant Angular Velocity) to write DVD-RAM at its maximum write speed of 5x. This gives an average write speed of 4.57x and a total write time of 12 minutes 28 seconds.

We included the table below for easy comparison.

DVD-RAM
Drive

Writing
Speed

Average
Speed

Writing
Time

NEC
ND-4550A

5x CLV

4.87x

11m:28s

LG
GSA 4167B

5x P-CAV

4.57x

12m:28s

Pioneer
DVR-110

5x CLV

4.83x

11m:28s

From the table above we can see the Pioneer DVR-110 was equally the fastest drive for writing DVD-RAM at 5x write speed.

Book type (bitsetting):

The Pioneer DVR-110 supports auto bitsetting, via burn applications such as Nero, and supports DVD+R DL media with DVD-ROM book type.

Here is how you could check if your discs are really written with DVD-ROM book type:

Start Nero CD-DVD Speed and click the Disc info button and you should get the following screen:


DVD+R DL with book type DVD-ROM.

Another quick test is to start Nero CD-Speed and look at the disc information:


This should say DVD-ROM.

Now let us take a look at the reading performance of the Pioneer DVR-110 on the nest page….

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Thanks for the very comprehensive and thorough review of the DVR-110.
It looks like crap warmed up - Geeks beware.

A nice drive - nothing new
@manu_dvd
Thank you for your obviously informed opinion.
It's a DVD burner, what did one expect it to look like? Paris Hilton perhaps?:X
[edited by Dee-27 on 03.12.2005 17:34]
[edited by Dee-27 on 03.12.2005 17:42]
I wouldn't mind seeing a DVD burner that looks like Paris Hilton :d
@manu_dvd
Why should "geeks beware"? I don't see how the pioneer dvr110 review should concern people who bite the heads off live chickens.
Now if I could just find a US Seller to get this... they all seem to have the DVR-110D (no Ram Write) and no sign of this one :(
lol

Doesn't matter since crossflashing wer mad epossible.

More important is the line "Made in ****".
:d I bought this DVD burner at EZBuy Club for around $40. Also they have it in black! :B
Great review, but absolutely ATROCIOUS is the lousy print feature for this and other reviews on this site.

Could not the web master go back to school or at least by a good CSS - XHTML book and put a proper printer version of the article and all other articles and reviews up on this site?!

It is tough for many of us to read such a long article online and many I know would love a WORKING print option other than just printing one pasgte at a time.

Many thanks otherwise.
The printing problem is most severe on Firefox and Netscape browsers in which case it won't print anything but the first page, and includes all the links etc.

On IE 6.02 + you can print some of the individual pages but not the whole article or review.

Please fix this to make and otherwise great site even better.
I ordered from ClubIT.com for $43.00

Many thanks for Dee's fabulous effort at dissecting this drive.

I now have a better appreciation of the printing problems for these reviews too as each section is between 11 and 28 pages long wit hteh standard formating, making for over 100 + pages to print the whole thing!

As a suggestion have you thought about making these reviews into PDFs for download and printing aming for significantly smaller page numbers.

You might even put all the text and tablular data in a sparate PDF and the graphics in another.

Some such option would be appreciated.

Cheers!
I checked both EZBuyClub.com and ClubIT.com, and neither carries the DVR-110. They both carry the DVR-110D, but in all cases, it never mentions DVD-RAM write support. So I'm with Rombaldi on this one, I'm stumped where to find this DVR-110 (with DVD-RAM write support) to order anywhere on the internet. :(

Dee-27, can you help us out on this one? Your cdfreaks.pricegrabber link only points to DVR-110D retailers (some retailers call the burner the "DVR-110", but when you look at the details, it's always the DVR-110D). Too bad Pioneer hadn't just gone to DVR-110E or something to reduce confusion.
As far as i'm aware.
DVR-110D, DVR-R100 (DVD-RAM read only)
DVR-110, DVR A10 (DVD-RAM read and write)

I have no idea why the DVR-110 is hard to find in the USA.
There is good stocks of this drive in Europe.
Ok, so I think the mystery is solved. I first called Pioneer USA directly, and the guy confirmed that the DVR-110 (not the DVR-110D which is readily available in the US) was not sold in the US, but he didn't know why.

Then after some hunting around on other forums, I finally figured it out: ASUS re-brands the Pioneer DVR-110 as the ASUS DRW-1608P2S (and also re-brands the Pioneer DVR-110D as the ASUS DRW-1608P2). So it appears that Pioneer doesn't market it directly in the US, letting ASUS do that. It's the same drive, as it can be flashed with the exact same Pioneer firmware updates, and it explicitly advertises the DVD-RAM 5X write capability. I found it at NewEgg.com as low as $42 US.

However, I'm now comparing the Pioneer with the LG 4167B, which is very similar in nearly every way in terms of features, performance and price.

My goal is purely DVD data backup, and comparing the reviews here on CDfreaks, and also on other sites, everyone consistently says that the LG 4167B is slightly better than the Pioneer from a writing compatibility standpoint (and seemed about the same good quailty on writing).

And both drives seem to work fine on Macs, which is what I have. I had initially leaned toward the Pioneer since most Macs ship with Pioneer, but Mac OS X 10.3.9 doesn't natively support this particular Pioneer. Both work fine with patchburn, so no real advantage for Pioneer vs. LG.

Anybody have a strong opinion either way between the "Pioneer DVR-110/ASUS DRW-1608P2S" and the "LG 4167B", when the goal is purely DVD backup (ie. don't care about read speeds nor DL, etc.)?
Hi,
I just downloaded "game cloner ver 1.20" to back up my games but when I run the software it come up on the screen "Burner find, but is invalid.
I have a pioneer dvd-rw dvr110. Can anyone help.
Mic
hello
i just buy EMTEC DVD-RW 4.7go //120min//4x
and my DVR-110 doesn't reconize this DVD
It ok with Verbatim DVD-RW 6X
if you have any explication
Thanks a Lot

Philippe (from France) :c :p
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