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| Posted by | Wendy Collins |
| Posted on | 02/12/05 00:26 |
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Reading performance:
For these tests we will use Nero CD/DVD-Speed to read various CD and DVD's, including audio discs and DVD-media. As already mentioned in the introduction, this drive supports:
- DVD-ROM : 16x
- CD-ROM : 40x
Pressed discs:
For this test we used a pressed CD-ROM disc containing the Roxio Media Creator 7.5 install CD that is close to 75 minutes in length. Below you will see the produced result:

The Pioneer DVR-110 reached 41.76x, and will reach faster speeds on a full disc. Let's compare the result in the table below:
|
Pressed |
Average |
Start |
End |
Seek |
Seek |
Seek |
|
Aopen |
37.34x |
21.29x |
49.42x |
105ms |
118ms |
196ms |
|
LG |
30.73x |
16.88x |
40.47x |
108ms |
105ms |
128ms |
|
Lite-On |
36.44x |
21.36x |
48.13x |
118ms |
133ms |
207ms |
|
Pioneer |
30.77x |
18.18x |
24.51x |
96ms |
110ms |
182ms |
|
BenQ |
30.74x |
15.39x |
38.87x |
99ms |
112ms |
161ms |
|
NEC |
34.82x |
19.88x |
46.09x |
122ms |
132ms |
210ms |
|
BenQ |
36.58x |
20.82x |
47.67x |
107ms |
123ms |
175ms |
|
Samsung |
35.56x |
15.93x |
47.11x |
94ms |
96ms |
171ms |
|
Pioneer |
31.66x |
18.25x |
41.76x |
98ms |
114ms |
194ms |
The Pioneer DVR-110 performed around average reading a pressed CD-ROM. The seek times were good.
CD-Recordable Discs:
For this test we made a copy of the original Roxio Media Creator 7.5 install CD. The disc we used was a Ricoh 52X certified CD-R disc manufactured by Moser Baer India.

As we can see from the above screenshot, the Pioneer DVR-110 reached 41.29x when reading CD-R. This gives an average read speed of 31.32x.
Now let us compare with the drives below.
|
CD-R |
Average |
Start |
End |
Seek |
Seek |
Seek |
|
LG |
30.53x |
16.83x |
40.27x |
116ms |
118ms |
128ms |
|
ASUS |
30.96x |
18.26x |
40.81x |
125ms |
143ms |
282ms |
|
Samsung |
36.65x |
21.28x |
48.33x |
92ms |
95ms |
163ms |
|
Philips |
30.69x |
17.68x |
40.44x |
126ms |
137ms |
175ms |
|
NU |
32.20x |
18.48x |
42.65 |
N/A* |
N/A* |
N/A* |
|
NEC |
35.68x |
20.76x |
47.06x |
128ms |
130ms |
213ms |
|
BenQ |
36.57x |
20.92x |
48.09x |
203ms |
233ms |
239ms |
|
Samsung |
30.66x |
17.98x |
40.43 |
90ms |
92ms |
161ms |
|
Pioneer |
31.32x |
17.91x |
41.29x |
103ms |
116ms |
192ms |
The Pioneer DVR-110 performed around average on our CD-R read test.
* Some drives including the NU HDW-164 will simply execute the seek command without actually moving the pickup.
CD-Rewritable discs:
Again, we made a copy of the original Roxio Media Creator 7.5 install CD; this time we used a Verbatim Ultra Speed (32X) CD-RW disc made by Mitsubishi Chemicals Corporation.

As we can see above, the Pioneer DVR-110 is locked at 32x, reading CD-RW; now let us compare it to other drives below.
|
CD-RW |
Average |
Start |
End |
Seek |
Seek |
Seek |
|
LG |
30.54x |
16.59x |
40.43x |
119ms |
116ms |
129ms |
|
ASUS |
25.32x |
14.63x |
33.52x |
129ms |
149ms |
288ms |
|
Samsung |
23.99x |
14.02x |
31.63x |
86ms |
95ms |
162ms |
|
Philips |
30.70x |
17.71x |
40.55x |
131ms |
149ms |
179ms |
|
NU |
32.20x |
18.17x |
42.53x |
N/A* |
N/A* |
N/A* |
|
NEC |
30.76x |
18.02x |
40.08x |
132ms |
128ms |
213ms |
|
BenQ |
31.36x |
17.47x |
41.46x |
105ms |
116ms |
250ms |
|
Samsung |
30.67x |
17.89x |
40.44x |
89ms |
92ms |
161ms |
|
Pioneer |
25.00x |
14.63x |
32.91x |
100ms |
114ms |
191ms |
The Pioneer DVR-110 performed below average at reading CD-RW's.
* Some drives including the NU HDW-164 will simply execute the seek command without actually moving the pickup.
Audio - Digital Audio Extraction:
To test the digital audio extraction performance of the Pioneer DVR-110, again we used Nero CD/DVD-Speed to measure the transfer rate. The audio disc we used is slightly larger than the disc used for the other tests, to be exact it's was nearly 79 minutes in length (78:53:31).

The Pioneer DVR-110 went beyond its maximum rated speed of 40x and actually reached 42.76x; let us compare the result with other drives:
|
Audio |
Average |
Start |
End |
Seek |
Seek |
Seek |
|
LG |
31.27x |
16.81x |
41.20x |
118ms |
124ms |
115ms |
|
ASUS |
31.10x |
19.91x |
41.38x |
125ms |
146ms |
286ms |
|
Samsung |
37.53x |
19.73x |
49.76x |
85ms |
97ms |
171ms |
|
Philips |
31.44x |
17.75x |
41.69x |
107ms |
124ms |
176ms |
|
NU |
32.98x |
18.32x |
43.70x |
N/A* |
N/A* |
N/A* |
|
NEC |
31.43x |
18.00x |
40.16x |
119ms |
135ms |
217ms |
|
BenQ |
37.15x |
20.94x |
49.23x |
171ms |
200ms |
184ms |
|
Samsung |
31.39x |
17.70x |
41.63x |
86ms |
100ms |
177ms |
|
Pioneer |
31.81x |
17.47x |
42.76x |
103ms |
116ms |
195ms |
The Pioneer DVR-110 performed around average with the Audio-CD.
* Some drives including the NU HDW-164 will simply execute the seek command without actually moving the pickup.
For this test we used EAC (Exact Audio Copy) to test the drives Audio extraction performance. As we can see from the screenshot below the drive supports 'caching" which can have an adverse effect on Audio extraction performance. Also worth noting, the drive does not support 'C2 error info" with EAC.

Below is the results produced by EAC:

Burst mode

Secure mode
The drive performed very well in burst mode, but rather slow in secure mode.
Advanced audio - DAE quality test:
Before we move on to testing DVD read speeds, we will take a last audio test, and this time we used the 'Advanced DAE Quality Test" feature in CD-Speed. For this test we used a CD-R media from RICOH (Thanks to RICOH Europe (BV) for sending us this media).


The extracting quality is excellent but the drive performed poorly with the 'copy on the fly" test. Also reading of lead-in and lead-out was not supported.
DVD reading performance:
Again, we will use Nero CD-Speed to measure the reading performance, this time for various types of DVD discs. The drive should read pressed single layer DVD-discs at 16X.
DVD - DVD-Video:
For our DVD reading performance tests we are going to start with a single and Double Layered DVD video discs. While only 1X speed is required to watch DVD movies, it's useful to be able to read the discs at higher speeds if you're going to extract (rip) the content of the disc to your hard drive.

DVD-Video Single Layer
DVD-Video Double Layer
The Pioneer DVR-110 is not RIPLOCKED and reads a pressed DVD-Video at up to 16x for a Single Layer disc, and beyond 12x for a Double Layer disc.
Now let us test a pressed DVD-ROM disc. For this test we used the 'Plextor PX-716A" install DVD, which is around 4.37 Gigabyte in size.

As we can see from the above screenshot, the Pioneer DVR-110 reads a DVD-ROM at 16x.
|
DVD |
Average |
Start |
End |
Average |
Start |
End |
|
LG |
7.60x |
4.12x |
10.13x |
6.14x |
3.38x |
8.16x |
|
ASUS |
3.92x |
2.17x |
5.25x |
3.94x |
2.19x |
5.25x |
|
Samsung |
11.50x |
6.78x |
13.11x |
6.41x |
3.57x |
8.51x |
|
Philips |
11.97x |
6.61x |
15.97x |
6.02x |
3.35x |
8.01x |
|
NU |
6.40x |
3.54x |
8.53x |
5.87x |
3.26x |
7.81x |
|
NEC |
5.94x |
3.32x |
7.93x |
5.45x |
3.03x |
7.24x |
|
BenQ |
11.86x |
6.59x |
15.79x |
9.01x |
5.03x |
12.00x |
|
Samsung |
12.06x |
6.73x |
16.08x |
6.41x |
3.57x |
8.51x |
|
Pioneer |
11.99x |
6.41x |
15.99x |
9.35x |
5.30x |
12.45x |
The Pioneer DVR-110 performed very well with our SL DVD-Video test. It was one of the fastest drives at reading a pressed SL DVD-Video disc. With the Double Layer DVD-Video it proved to be the fastest drive.
DVD - DVD+R(W):
For this test we used a Verbatim 16X DVD+R and a Verbatim 8X DVD+RW with about 4.4Gb of data. Below are the results:

DVD+R
DVD+RW
|
DVD+R |
Average |
Start |
End |
Average |
Start |
End |
|
Lite-On |
6.19x |
3.42x |
8.28x |
6.23x |
3.46x |
8.33x |
|
LG |
7.66x |
4.11x |
10.23x |
6.15x |
3.32x |
8.21x |
|
ASUS |
9.35x |
5.19x |
12.52x |
6.26x |
3.48x |
8.36x |
|
Samsung |
6.23x |
3.44x |
8.32x |
6.22x |
3.43x |
8.31x |
|
Philips |
6.24x |
3.42x |
8.34x |
6.24x |
3.42x |
8.34x |
|
NU |
6.47x |
3.53x |
8.63x |
6.46x |
3.52x |
8.65x |
|
NEC |
11.99x |
6.56x |
16.05x |
9.87x |
5.45x |
13.18x |
|
BenQ |
12.10x |
6.59x |
16.22x |
9.37x |
5.12x |
12.56x |
|
Samsung |
9.11x |
5.02x |
12.19x |
6.22x |
3.43x |
8.32x |
|
Pioneer |
9.36x |
5.20x |
12.16x |
6.25x |
3.46x |
8.43x |
The Pioneer DVR-110 performed averagely on DVD+R and DVD+RW, returning respectable results. Now let us see how it will perform on DVD-R/RW.
DVD - DVD-R/RW:
For this test we used a Verbatim 16X DVD-R disc and a Verbatim 6X DVD-RW disc filled with about 4.4Gb of data. Our test results are found below:

DVD-R

DVD-RW
There are minor differences compared to reading the DVD+R/RW discs, but they are very marginal differences.
|
DVD-R |
Average |
Start |
End |
Average |
Start |
End |
|
Lite-On |
6.05x |
3.34x |
8.09x |
6.05x |
3.35x |
8.09x |
|
LG |
7.67x |
4.12x |
10.25x |
6.14x |
3.31x |
8.21x |
|
ASUS |
9.37x |
5.22x |
12.52x |
6.25x |
3.46x |
8.35x |
|
Samsung |
6.19x |
3.41x |
8.27x |
6.22x |
3.43x |
8.32x |
|
Philips |
6.23x |
3.40x |
8.33x |
6.24x |
3.41x |
8.34x |
|
NU |
6.46x |
3.49x |
8.66x |
6.46x |
3.49x |
8.64x |
|
NEC |
12.01x |
6.58x |
16.06x |
9.85x |
5.42x |
13.16x |
|
BenQ |
12.09x |
6.59x |
16.17x |
9.34x |
5.11x |
12.50x |
|
Samsung |
9.11x |
5.03x |
12.18x |
6.22x |
3.44x |
8.31x |
|
Pioneer |
9.36x |
5.17x |
12.14x |
6.23x |
3.43x |
8.35x |
Once again the Pioneer DVR-110 was average at reading DVD-R/RW.
Overall thoughts:
The Pioneer DVR-110 is a respectable reader, it is by no means the fastest reader in the world, but during our read tests it did prove reliable. The digital audio extraction performance could be improved, as this is one area where the drive does not perform well.
But now it's time to head on to a more interesting part: Writing CD-R and CD-RW discs…



A nice drive - nothing new


Thank you for your obviously informed opinion.
It's a DVD burner, what did one expect it to look like? Paris Hilton perhaps?

[edited by Dee-27 on 03.12.2005 17:34]
[edited by Dee-27 on 03.12.2005 17:42]





Why should "geeks beware"? I don't see how the pioneer dvr110 review should concern people who bite the heads off live chickens.





Doesn't matter since crossflashing wer mad epossible.
More important is the line "Made in ****".


I bought this DVD burner at EZBuy Club for around $40. Also they have it in black! 


Could not the web master go back to school or at least by a good CSS - XHTML book and put a proper printer version of the article and all other articles and reviews up on this site?!
It is tough for many of us to read such a long article online and many I know would love a WORKING print option other than just printing one pasgte at a time.
Many thanks otherwise.


On IE 6.02 + you can print some of the individual pages but not the whole article or review.
Please fix this to make and otherwise great site even better.


Many thanks for Dee's fabulous effort at dissecting this drive.
I now have a better appreciation of the printing problems for these reviews too as each section is between 11 and 28 pages long wit hteh standard formating, making for over 100 + pages to print the whole thing!
As a suggestion have you thought about making these reviews into PDFs for download and printing aming for significantly smaller page numbers.
You might even put all the text and tablular data in a sparate PDF and the graphics in another.
Some such option would be appreciated.
Cheers!


Dee-27, can you help us out on this one? Your cdfreaks.pricegrabber link only points to DVR-110D retailers (some retailers call the burner the "DVR-110", but when you look at the details, it's always the DVR-110D). Too bad Pioneer hadn't just gone to DVR-110E or something to reduce confusion.


DVR-110D, DVR-R100 (DVD-RAM read only)
DVR-110, DVR A10 (DVD-RAM read and write)
I have no idea why the DVR-110 is hard to find in the USA.
There is good stocks of this drive in Europe.


Then after some hunting around on other forums, I finally figured it out: ASUS re-brands the Pioneer DVR-110 as the ASUS DRW-1608P2S (and also re-brands the Pioneer DVR-110D as the ASUS DRW-1608P2). So it appears that Pioneer doesn't market it directly in the US, letting ASUS do that. It's the same drive, as it can be flashed with the exact same Pioneer firmware updates, and it explicitly advertises the DVD-RAM 5X write capability. I found it at NewEgg.com as low as $42 US.
However, I'm now comparing the Pioneer with the LG 4167B, which is very similar in nearly every way in terms of features, performance and price.
My goal is purely DVD data backup, and comparing the reviews here on CDfreaks, and also on other sites, everyone consistently says that the LG 4167B is slightly better than the Pioneer from a writing compatibility standpoint (and seemed about the same good quailty on writing).
And both drives seem to work fine on Macs, which is what I have. I had initially leaned toward the Pioneer since most Macs ship with Pioneer, but Mac OS X 10.3.9 doesn't natively support this particular Pioneer. Both work fine with patchburn, so no real advantage for Pioneer vs. LG.
Anybody have a strong opinion either way between the "Pioneer DVR-110/ASUS DRW-1608P2S" and the "LG 4167B", when the goal is purely DVD backup (ie. don't care about read speeds nor DL, etc.)?


I just downloaded "game cloner ver 1.20" to back up my games but when I run the software it come up on the screen "Burner find, but is invalid.
I have a pioneer dvd-rw dvr110. Can anyone help.
Mic


i just buy EMTEC DVD-RW 4.7go //120min//4x
and my DVR-110 doesn't reconize this DVD
It ok with Verbatim DVD-RW 6X
if you have any explication
Thanks a Lot
Philippe (from France)


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