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Reading performance
 

Reading performance:


For these tests we will use Nero CD/DVD-Speed to read various CD and DVD's, including audio discs and DVD-media. As already mentioned in the introduction, this drive supports:

  • DVD-ROM : 16x
  • CD-ROM : 40x 

Pressed discs:

For this test we used a pressed CD-ROM disc containing the Roxio Media Creator 7.5 install CD that is close to 75 minutes in length. Below you will see the produced result:

The Pioneer DVR-110 reached 41.76x, and will reach faster speeds on a full disc. Let's compare the result in the table below:

Pressed
Discs

Average
Read
Speed

Start
 Read 
Speed

End
 Read 
Speed

Seek
Times
 Random

Seek
 Times 
1/3

Seek
 Times 
Full

Aopen
DUW1608/ARR

37.34x

21.29x

49.42x

105ms

118ms

196ms

LG
GSA-5163D

30.73x

16.88x

40.47x

108ms

105ms

128ms

Lite-On
SHOW-1673S

36.44x

21.36x

48.13x

118ms

133ms

207ms

Pioneer
DVR-109D

30.77x

18.18x

24.51x

96ms

110ms

182ms

BenQ
DW1625

30.74x

15.39x

38.87x

99ms

112ms

161ms

NEC
ND-3540A

34.82x

19.88x

46.09x

122ms

132ms

210ms

BenQ
DW1640

36.58x

20.82x

47.67x

107ms

123ms

175ms

Samsung
SH-W162C

35.56x

15.93x

47.11x

94ms

96ms

171ms

Pioneer
DVR-110

31.66x

18.25x

41.76x

98ms

114ms

194ms

The Pioneer DVR-110 performed around average reading a pressed CD-ROM. The seek times were good.

CD-Recordable Discs:

For this test we made a copy of the original Roxio Media Creator 7.5 install CD. The disc we used was a Ricoh 52X certified CD-R disc manufactured by Moser Baer India. 

As we can see from the above screenshot, the Pioneer DVR-110 reached 41.29x when reading CD-R. This gives an average read speed of 31.32x.

Now let us compare with the drives below.

CD-R
Discs

Average 
Read
Speed

Start
 Read 
Speed

End
 Read 
Speed

Seek
Times
 Random

Seek
 Times 
1/3

Seek
 Times 
Full

LG
GSA-5160D

30.53x

16.83x

40.27x

116ms

118ms

128ms

ASUS
DRW-1604P

30.96x

18.26x

40.81x

125ms

143ms

282ms

Samsung
TS-E552U

36.65x

21.28x

48.33x

92ms

95ms

163ms

Philips
DVDR16LS

30.69x

17.68x

40.44x

126ms

137ms

175ms

NU
HDW-164

32.20x

18.48x

42.65

N/A*

N/A*

N/A*

NEC
ND-3540A

35.68x

20.76x

47.06x

128ms

130ms

213ms

BenQ
DW1640

36.57x

20.92x

48.09x

203ms

233ms

239ms

Samsung
SH-W162C

30.66x

17.98x

40.43

90ms

92ms

161ms

Pioneer
DVR-110

31.32x

17.91x

41.29x

103ms

116ms

192ms

The Pioneer DVR-110 performed around average on our CD-R read test.

* Some drives including the NU HDW-164 will simply execute the seek command without actually moving the pickup.

 CD-Rewritable discs:

Again, we made a copy of the original Roxio Media Creator 7.5 install CD; this time we used a Verbatim Ultra Speed (32X) CD-RW disc made by Mitsubishi Chemicals Corporation.

As we can see above, the Pioneer DVR-110 is locked at 32x, reading CD-RW; now let us compare it to other drives below.

CD-RW
Discs

Average 
Read
Speed

Start
 Read 
Speed

End
 Read 
Speed

Seek
Times
 Random

Seek
 Times 
1/3

Seek
 Times 
Full

LG
GSA-5160D

30.54x

16.59x

40.43x

119ms

116ms

129ms

ASUS
DRW-1604P

25.32x

14.63x

33.52x

129ms

149ms

288ms

Samsung
TS-E552U

23.99x

14.02x

31.63x

86ms

95ms

162ms

Philips
DVDR16LS

30.70x

17.71x

40.55x

131ms

149ms

179ms

NU
HDW-164

32.20x

18.17x

42.53x

N/A*

N/A*

N/A*

NEC
ND-3540A

30.76x

18.02x

40.08x

132ms

128ms

213ms

BenQ
DW1640

31.36x

17.47x

41.46x

105ms

116ms

250ms

Samsung
SH-W162C

30.67x

17.89x

40.44x

89ms

92ms

161ms

Pioneer
DVR-110

25.00x

14.63x

32.91x

100ms

114ms

191ms

The Pioneer DVR-110 performed below average at reading CD-RW's.

* Some drives including the NU HDW-164 will simply execute the seek command without actually moving the pickup.

Audio - Digital Audio Extraction:

To test the digital audio extraction performance of the Pioneer DVR-110, again we used Nero CD/DVD-Speed to measure the transfer rate. The audio disc we used is slightly larger than the disc used for the other tests, to be exact it's was nearly 79 minutes in length (78:53:31).

The Pioneer DVR-110 went beyond its maximum rated speed of 40x and actually reached 42.76x; let us compare the result with other drives:

Audio
Discs

Average 
Read
Speed

Start
 Read 
Speed

End
 Read 
Speed

Seek
Times
 Random

Seek
 Times 
1/3

Seek
 Times 
Full

LG
GSA-5160D

31.27x

16.81x

41.20x

118ms

124ms

115ms

ASUS
DRW-1604P

31.10x

19.91x

41.38x

125ms

146ms

286ms

Samsung
TS-E552U

37.53x

19.73x

49.76x

85ms

97ms

171ms

Philips
DVDR16LS

31.44x

17.75x

41.69x

107ms

124ms

176ms

NU
HDW-164

32.98x

18.32x

43.70x

N/A*

N/A*

N/A*

NEC
ND-3540A

31.43x

18.00x

40.16x

119ms

135ms

217ms

BenQ
DW1640

37.15x

20.94x

49.23x

171ms

200ms

184ms

Samsung
SH-W162C

31.39x

17.70x

41.63x

86ms

100ms

177ms

Pioneer
DVR-110

31.81x

17.47x

42.76x

103ms

116ms

195ms

The Pioneer DVR-110 performed around average with the Audio-CD.

* Some drives including the NU HDW-164 will simply execute the seek command without actually moving the pickup.

For this test we used EAC (Exact Audio Copy) to test the drives Audio extraction performance. As we can see from the screenshot below the drive supports 'caching" which can have an adverse effect on Audio extraction performance. Also worth noting, the drive does not support 'C2 error info" with EAC. 

Below is the results produced by EAC:


 Burst mode


 Secure mode

The drive performed very well in burst mode, but rather slow in secure mode.

Advanced audio - DAE quality test:

Before we move on to testing DVD read speeds, we will take a last audio test, and this time we used the 'Advanced DAE Quality Test" feature in CD-Speed. For this test we used a CD-R media from RICOH (Thanks to RICOH Europe (BV) for sending us this media).

The extracting quality is excellent but the drive performed poorly with the 'copy on the fly" test. Also reading of lead-in and lead-out was not supported.

DVD reading performance:


Again, we will use Nero CD-Speed to measure the reading performance, this time for various types of DVD discs. The drive should read pressed single layer DVD-discs at 16X.

DVD - DVD-Video:

For our DVD reading performance tests we are going to start with a single and Double Layered DVD video discs. While only 1X speed is required to watch DVD movies, it's useful to be able to read the discs at higher speeds if you're going to extract (rip) the content of the disc to your hard drive.


DVD-Video Single Layer

 
DVD-Video Double Layer

The Pioneer DVR-110 is not RIPLOCKED and reads a pressed DVD-Video at up to 16x for a Single Layer disc, and beyond 12x for a Double Layer disc.

Now let us test a pressed DVD-ROM disc. For this test we used the 'Plextor PX-716A" install DVD, which is around 4.37 Gigabyte in size.

As we can see from the above screenshot, the Pioneer DVR-110 reads a DVD-ROM at 16x.

DVD
Video

Average 
Read
Speed
(SL)

Start
 Read 
Speed
(SL)

End
 Read 
Speed
(SL)

Average 
Read
Speed
(DL)

Start
 Read 
Speed
(DL)

End
 Read 
Speed
(DL)

LG
GSA-5160D

7.60x

4.12x

10.13x

6.14x

3.38x

8.16x

ASUS
DRW-1604P

3.92x

2.17x

5.25x

3.94x

2.19x

5.25x

Samsung
TS-E552U

11.50x

6.78x

13.11x

6.41x

3.57x

8.51x

Philips
DVDR16LS

11.97x

6.61x

15.97x

6.02x

3.35x

8.01x

NU
HDW-164

6.40x

3.54x

8.53x

5.87x

3.26x

7.81x

NEC
ND-3540A

5.94x

3.32x

7.93x

5.45x

3.03x

7.24x

BenQ
DW1640

11.86x

6.59x

15.79x

9.01x

5.03x

12.00x

Samsung
SH-W162C

12.06x

6.73x

16.08x

6.41x

3.57x

8.51x

Pioneer
DVR-110

11.99x

6.41x

15.99x

9.35x

5.30x

12.45x

The Pioneer DVR-110 performed very well with our SL DVD-Video test. It was one of the fastest drives at reading a pressed SL DVD-Video disc. With the Double Layer DVD-Video it proved to be the fastest drive.

DVD - DVD+R(W):


For this test we used a Verbatim 16X DVD+R and a Verbatim 8X DVD+RW with about 4.4Gb of data. Below are the results:


DVD+R

 
DVD+RW

DVD+R
DVD+RW

Average 
Read
Speed
(+R)

Start
 Read 
Speed
(+R)

End
 Read 
Speed
(+R)

Average 
Read
Speed
(+RW)

Start
 Read 
Speed
(+RW)

End
 Read 
Speed
(+RW)

Lite-On
SHOW-1653S

6.19x

3.42x

8.28x

6.23x

3.46x

8.33x

LG
GSA-5160D

7.66x

4.11x

10.23x

6.15x

3.32x

8.21x

ASUS
DRW-1604P

9.35x

5.19x

12.52x

6.26x

3.48x

8.36x

Samsung
TS-E522U

6.23x

3.44x

8.32x

6.22x

3.43x

8.31x

Philips
DVDR16LS

6.24x

3.42x

8.34x

6.24x

3.42x

8.34x

NU
DHW-164

6.47x

3.53x

8.63x

6.46x

3.52x

8.65x

NEC
ND-3540A

11.99x

6.56x

16.05x

9.87x

5.45x

13.18x

BenQ
DW1640

12.10x

6.59x

16.22x

9.37x

5.12x

12.56x

Samsung
SE-W164C

9.11x

5.02x

12.19x

6.22x

3.43x

8.32x

Pioneer
DVR-110

9.36x

5.20x

12.16x

6.25x

3.46x

8.43x

The Pioneer DVR-110 performed averagely on DVD+R and DVD+RW, returning respectable results. Now let us see how it will perform on DVD-R/RW.

DVD - DVD-R/RW:


For this test we used a Verbatim 16X DVD-R disc and a Verbatim 6X DVD-RW disc filled with about 4.4Gb of data. Our test results are found below:


DVD-R

 
DVD-RW

There are minor differences compared to reading the DVD+R/RW discs, but they are very marginal differences.

DVD-R
DVD-RW

Average 
Read
Speed
(-R)

Start
 Read 
Speed
(-R)

End
 Read 
Speed
(-R)

Average 
Read
Speed
(-RW)

Start
 Read 
Speed
(-RW)

End
 Read 
Speed
(-RW)

Lite-On
SHOW-1653S

6.05x

3.34x

8.09x

6.05x

3.35x

8.09x

LG
GSA-5160D

7.67x

4.12x

10.25x

6.14x

3.31x

8.21x

ASUS
DRW-1604P

9.37x

5.22x

12.52x

6.25x

3.46x

8.35x

Samsung
TS-E522U

6.19x

3.41x

8.27x

6.22x

3.43x

8.32x

Philips
DVDR16LS

6.23x

3.40x

8.33x

6.24x

3.41x

8.34x

NU
DHW-164

6.46x

3.49x

8.66x

6.46x

3.49x

8.64x

NEC
ND-3540A

12.01x

6.58x

16.06x

9.85x

5.42x

13.16x

BenQ
DW1640

12.09x

6.59x

16.17x

9.34x

5.11x

12.50x

Samsung
SE-W164C

9.11x

5.03x

12.18x

6.22x

3.44x

8.31x

Pioneer
DVR-110

9.36x

5.17x

12.14x

6.23x

3.43x

8.35x

Once again the Pioneer DVR-110 was average at reading DVD-R/RW.

Overall thoughts:

The Pioneer DVR-110 is a respectable reader, it is by no means the fastest reader in the world, but during our read tests it did prove reliable. The digital audio extraction performance could be improved, as this is one area where the drive does not perform well.

But now it's time to head on to a more interesting part: Writing CD-R and CD-RW discs…

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Reactions on this item
Thanks for the very comprehensive and thorough review of the DVR-110.
It looks like crap warmed up - Geeks beware.

A nice drive - nothing new
@manu_dvd
Thank you for your obviously informed opinion.
It's a DVD burner, what did one expect it to look like? Paris Hilton perhaps?:X
[edited by Dee-27 on 03.12.2005 17:34]
[edited by Dee-27 on 03.12.2005 17:42]
I wouldn't mind seeing a DVD burner that looks like Paris Hilton :d
@manu_dvd
Why should "geeks beware"? I don't see how the pioneer dvr110 review should concern people who bite the heads off live chickens.
Now if I could just find a US Seller to get this... they all seem to have the DVR-110D (no Ram Write) and no sign of this one :(
lol

Doesn't matter since crossflashing wer mad epossible.

More important is the line "Made in ****".
:d I bought this DVD burner at EZBuy Club for around $40. Also they have it in black! :B
Great review, but absolutely ATROCIOUS is the lousy print feature for this and other reviews on this site.

Could not the web master go back to school or at least by a good CSS - XHTML book and put a proper printer version of the article and all other articles and reviews up on this site?!

It is tough for many of us to read such a long article online and many I know would love a WORKING print option other than just printing one pasgte at a time.

Many thanks otherwise.
The printing problem is most severe on Firefox and Netscape browsers in which case it won't print anything but the first page, and includes all the links etc.

On IE 6.02 + you can print some of the individual pages but not the whole article or review.

Please fix this to make and otherwise great site even better.
I ordered from ClubIT.com for $43.00

Many thanks for Dee's fabulous effort at dissecting this drive.

I now have a better appreciation of the printing problems for these reviews too as each section is between 11 and 28 pages long wit hteh standard formating, making for over 100 + pages to print the whole thing!

As a suggestion have you thought about making these reviews into PDFs for download and printing aming for significantly smaller page numbers.

You might even put all the text and tablular data in a sparate PDF and the graphics in another.

Some such option would be appreciated.

Cheers!
I checked both EZBuyClub.com and ClubIT.com, and neither carries the DVR-110. They both carry the DVR-110D, but in all cases, it never mentions DVD-RAM write support. So I'm with Rombaldi on this one, I'm stumped where to find this DVR-110 (with DVD-RAM write support) to order anywhere on the internet. :(

Dee-27, can you help us out on this one? Your cdfreaks.pricegrabber link only points to DVR-110D retailers (some retailers call the burner the "DVR-110", but when you look at the details, it's always the DVR-110D). Too bad Pioneer hadn't just gone to DVR-110E or something to reduce confusion.
As far as i'm aware.
DVR-110D, DVR-R100 (DVD-RAM read only)
DVR-110, DVR A10 (DVD-RAM read and write)

I have no idea why the DVR-110 is hard to find in the USA.
There is good stocks of this drive in Europe.
Ok, so I think the mystery is solved. I first called Pioneer USA directly, and the guy confirmed that the DVR-110 (not the DVR-110D which is readily available in the US) was not sold in the US, but he didn't know why.

Then after some hunting around on other forums, I finally figured it out: ASUS re-brands the Pioneer DVR-110 as the ASUS DRW-1608P2S (and also re-brands the Pioneer DVR-110D as the ASUS DRW-1608P2). So it appears that Pioneer doesn't market it directly in the US, letting ASUS do that. It's the same drive, as it can be flashed with the exact same Pioneer firmware updates, and it explicitly advertises the DVD-RAM 5X write capability. I found it at NewEgg.com as low as $42 US.

However, I'm now comparing the Pioneer with the LG 4167B, which is very similar in nearly every way in terms of features, performance and price.

My goal is purely DVD data backup, and comparing the reviews here on CDfreaks, and also on other sites, everyone consistently says that the LG 4167B is slightly better than the Pioneer from a writing compatibility standpoint (and seemed about the same good quailty on writing).

And both drives seem to work fine on Macs, which is what I have. I had initially leaned toward the Pioneer since most Macs ship with Pioneer, but Mac OS X 10.3.9 doesn't natively support this particular Pioneer. Both work fine with patchburn, so no real advantage for Pioneer vs. LG.

Anybody have a strong opinion either way between the "Pioneer DVR-110/ASUS DRW-1608P2S" and the "LG 4167B", when the goal is purely DVD backup (ie. don't care about read speeds nor DL, etc.)?
Hi,
I just downloaded "game cloner ver 1.20" to back up my games but when I run the software it come up on the screen "Burner find, but is invalid.
I have a pioneer dvd-rw dvr110. Can anyone help.
Mic
hello
i just buy EMTEC DVD-RW 4.7go //120min//4x
and my DVR-110 doesn't reconize this DVD
It ok with Verbatim DVD-RW 6X
if you have any explication
Thanks a Lot

Philippe (from France) :c :p