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DVD+R DL/ R DL Writing performance
 

DVD+R/-R Double Layer writing speed and compatibility:


The Pioneer DVR-110D supports the DVD+R DL/-R DL standard for writing Double Layer/Dual Layer discs with a size around 8.5 GB at a writing speed of 8x. Let us first take a look at the media's we will use:

Let's find the manufacturer and media information too, for this we will use CD-Speed:

This media is manufactured by Mitsubishi Kagaku Media. Thanks to Verbatim (D) for sending us this media.

The media is made by Ricoh Co. Ltd. (Made in Taiwan).  Thanks to Ricoh Europe (Germany) for sending us this media.

The Traxdata media is manufactured by RITEK (Thanks to Conrexx (NL) for sending us this media).

The media is made by CMC Magnetics. Thanks to E-Net (UK) for sending us this media.

Testing procedure:
We created an ISO Image from a pre-authored DVD-Video compliant file set, with a total on-disc size of 8146 MB. We then wrote this image file using Nero Burning ROM 6. Below are the results:


Ricoh Media

Nero reported a successful burn with the Ricoh media in 45 minutes 13 seconds.



Traxdata media

Nero once again reported a successful burn with the Traxdata media in 45 minutes 29 seconds


Verbatim media

Nero once again completed the burn successfully with the Verbatim media in 18 minutes and 4 seconds.


DataWrite Media

Another successful burn with the DataWrite media in 45 minutes 15 seconds

Let us take a look at the K-Probe results:

Brand:

Ricoh - Thanks to Ricoh Europe (D) for providing the sample.

Manufacturer:

Ricoh Co. Ltd.

Code:

RICOH JPN D00

Disc Type:

DVD+R DL

Capacity:

8145MB

Certified Speed:

2.4x

Write Speed:

2.4x

Write Time:

45m:13s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

5.51

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.10

The Ricoh media has performed very well. A very good result.

PI levels are high with the Traxdata media but within specification, PIF levels are quite reasonable for this media, there is a cluster of PIF errors at the layer break, this was a little concerning.

Brand:

Verbatim - Thanks to Verbatim (D) for providing the sample.

Manufacturer:

Mitsubishi Kagaku Media

Code:

MKM 001

Disc Type:

DVD+R DL

Capacity:

8145MB

Certified Speed:

2.4x

Write Speed:

8x

Write Time:

18m:04s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

2.16

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.04

The result is very good, considering this 2.4x certified media was written at 8x. There is a single PIF spike of 7 near the beginning of the disc, but this should not cause concern.

Brand:

DataWrite - Thanks to E-Net (UK) for providing this media.

Manufacturer:

CMC Magnetics

Code:

CMC MAG D01

Disc Type:

DVD+R DL

Capacity:

8145MB

Certified Speed:

2.4x

Write Speed:

2.4x

Write Time:

45m:15s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

4.39

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.08

The DataWrite media has performed very well, and once again we have a very good result.

Now it's time to take a look at some reading tests with various DVD-Writers.

First we will try to read the discs back in the Pioneer DVR-110D:


Ricoh Media


Traxdata media



Verbatim Media


DataWrite media

As we can see, the Pioneer DVR-110D had no problems reading the discs.

Now let us try NEC ND-3540A drive to read the Double Layer discs:


Ricoh Media


Traxdata media



Verbatim Media


DataWrite media

The NEC ND-3540A had no problems reading the discs apart from a slowdown at the layer break with the Verbatim and Traxdata media.

Let's compare the Pioneer DVR-110D with some other DL capable drives.

Drive

Size

Writing
Speed

Writing
Time

Book
Type

Kprobe
avg.
PI

Kprobe
avg.
PIF

Aopen
1608/ARR

8103 MB

2.4x

44m:01s

DVD-ROM

4.12

0.12

Mad Dog
MD-16XDVD9

8131 MB

4x

26m:44s

DVD-ROM

2.74

0.12

LG
GSA-4163B

8103 MB

4x
2.4x

26m:55s
44m:30s

DVD-ROM

1.81
16.01

0.01
0.03*2

Lite-On
SHOW-1653S

8152 MB

4x

27m:09s

DVD-ROM

2.61

0.15

LG
GSA-5160D

8103 MB

2.4x

44m:25s
44m:41s

DVD-ROM

2.19
18.63

0.04
0.04*2

ASUS
DRW-1604P

8131 MB

4x

26m:58s

DVD-ROM

3.29

0.18

Samsung
TS-E522U

8103MB

6x
Z-CLV

23m:30s

DVD+DL

11.58

0.03*1

Philips
DVDR16LS

8103MB

2.4x

45m:52s

DVD-ROM

2.28

0.04*

NU
HDW-164

8103MB

4x

37m:00s

DVD-ROM

1.89

0.02*1

NEC
ND-3540A

8103MB

2.4x
2.4x
8x

44m:08s
44m:03s
19m:02

DVD-ROM

37.44
12.36
1.91

0.02*3
0.02*2
0.01*1

BenQ
DW1640

8152Mb

8x

15m:36s

DVD-ROM

3.26

0.02

Pioneer
DVR-110D


8145MB

2.4x
2.4x
8x
2.4x

45m:13s
45m:29s
18m:04s
45m:15s

DVD-ROM

5.51
20.45
2.16
4.39

0.10*3
0.23*2
0.04*1
0.08*4

*1 Verbatim DVD+R DL
*2 Traxdata DVD+R DL
*3 Ricoh DVD+R DL
*4 DataWrite DVD+R DL

DVD-R DL

As mentioned in the beginning of this page, the Pioneer DVR-110D supports the DVD-R DL standard at 8x. Let us first take a look at the media we will use:

Let's find the manufacturer and media information too, for this we will use CD-Speed 4.04:

This media is manufactured by Mitsubishi Kagaku Media. Thanks to SVP (UK) for sending us this media.

Again, we used Nero Burning Rom 6 to write the DVD Image:

The Pioneer used 18 minutes and 12 seconds to write the Verbatim DVD-R DL 4x media at 8x.

To check the disc quality we used the NEC ND-3540A along with CD-Speed. The result is for information purposes only and cannot be compared to the Lite-On scans.

Brand:

Verbatim - Thanks to Verbatim (UK) for providing the sample.

Manufacturer:

Mitsubishi Kagaku Media

Code:

MKM 01RD30 

Disc Type:

DVD-R DL

Capacity:

8145MB

Certified Speed:

4x

Write Speed:

8x

Write Time:

18m:12s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

32.79

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.09

We will now check the read-back curves on three different drives.

Excellent read-back curves. Despite the poor CD-Speed disc quality scan. We would have to conclude the disc is ok since it read back in our three drives with excellent results.

Standalone DVD-Player compatibility:


We only have 3 standalone DVD-Players available and 1 standalone DVD-RAM DVD-R recorder to test the DVD+R DL medias (Book Type: DVD-ROM) and the DVD-R DL media (Book Type: DVD-R):

  • Panasonic DVD-RV32
  • Panasonic SA-HT520
  • Proline DVDP350
  • Panasonic DMR-E50 recorder

Compatibility results: 

Drive

Ricoh
DVD+R DL

DataWrite
DVD+R DL

Verbatim
DVD+R DL

Verbatim
DVD-R DL

Comments

Panasonic
DVD-RV32

OK

OK

OK

OK

No problems.

Panasonic
SA-HT520

OK

OK

OK

FAILED

Plays the first layer but fails at the layer-break.

Panasonic
DMR-E50

OK

OK

OK

FAILED

Reports ?NO DISC?.  

Proline DVDP350
230G

OK

OK

OK

FAILED

Reports no valid disc

All DVD Standalone devices played the Pioneer DVR-110D burned DVD+R DL media. But only one DVD Standalone device would play the Pioneer DVR-110D burned DVD-R DL media without any problems.

Summary: Very good quality on DVD+R DL/-R DL and DVD standalone compatibility results, for the DVD+R DL media.

Before we round off this review, let us run the drive through some advanced tests at next page…

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Reactions on this item
Fix the spelling -> RICOH JNP? it's JPN!

Overburning -> not that it doesn't overburn CD-R, its that it cannot overburn past 89mins.
I'd say it needs to be clarified what's called overburning on what rated media...
For (much) better quality and (much) smaller file size, [url=http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.php?p=1103142&postcount=874]use [b]PNG[/b] for screenshots or screen captures[/url]. JPG/JPEG is for photos.
[edited by lordyu on 08.10.2005 23:31]
What is the difference between this review and the one done on Pioneer DVR-110 DVD on 02 December 2005... anything besides the firmware? The updated firmware seems to make this a much better unit comparing the two reviews....
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