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DVD+R DL/ R DL Writing performance
 

 

DVD+R/-R Double Layer writing speed and compatibility:


The Pioneer DVR-111 supports the DVD+R DL/-R DL standard for writing Double Layer/Dual Layer discs with a size around 8.5 GB at a writing speed of 8x. Let us first take a look at the media we will use:

Let's find the manufacturer and media information too, for this we will use Nero CD-DVD Speed version 4.50:

Verbatim 2.4x - Manufactured by Mitsubishi Kagaku Media. Thanks to Verbatim for sending us this media.


Ricoh JPN D00, manufactured by Ricoh. Thanks to Ricoh Europe for sending us this media.


Infiniti reference series - Manufactured by CMC Magnetics. Thanks to Medea International UK for sending us this media.


Testing procedure:
We created an ISO Image from a pre-authored DVD-Video compliant file set, with a total on-disc size of 8146 MB. We then wrote this image file using Nero Burning ROM 6. Below are the results:


Verbatim 2.4x Media

Nero reported a successful burn with the Verbatim 2.4x media in 17 minutes and 39 seconds. (write speed 8x)

Let us take a look at the K-Probe result:

Brand:

Verbatim - Thanks to SVP UK for sending us this media.

Manufacturer:

Mitsubishi Kagaku Media

Code:

MKM 001

Disc Type:

DVD+R DL

Capacity:

8145MB

Certified Speed:

2.4x

Write Speed:

8x (Z-CLV)

Write Time:

17m:39s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

31.07

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.22

The result is good, considering this 2.4x media was written at 4 times its rated speed.



Ricoh Media

Nero reported a successful burn with the Ricoh 2.4x media in 45 minutes and 23 seconds. (write speed 2.4x)

Let us take a look at the K-Probe result:

Brand:

RICOH - Thanks to Ricoh Europe for sending us this media.

Manufacturer:

RICOH

Code:

JPN D00

Disc Type:

DVD+R DL

Capacity:

8145MB

Certified Speed:

2.4x

Write Speed:

2.4x (CLV)

Write Time:

45m:23s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

42.23

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.46

PI and PIF errors are high but within specification, the result is ok but could be better



Infiniti 2.4x Media

Nero reported a successful burn with the Infiniti 2.4x media in 45 minutes and 40 seconds. (write speed 2.4x)

Now let us take a look at the K-Probe result:

Brand:

Infiniti - Thanks to Medea International UK for sending us this media.

Manufacturer:

CMC Magnetics

Code:

CMC MAD D01

Disc Type:

DVD+R DL

Capacity:

8145MB

Certified Speed:

2.4x

Write Speed:

4x (CLV)

Write Time:

45m:40s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

3.25

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.14

PI and PIF levels are fairly low, there is a group of PIF near at the end of the disc but they are within specification; the result is good.


Now let us try and read the Double Layer media back, first on the Pioneer DVR-111 and then the BenQ DW1640.


Pioneer DVR-111 read-back test (MKM 001)


BenQ DW1640 read-back test (MKM 001)



Pioneer DVR-111 read-back test (RICOH JPN D00)


BenQ DW1640 read-back test (RICOH JPN D00)



Pioneer DVR-111 read-back test (Infiniti CMC MAG D01)


Benq DW1640 read-back test (Infiniti CMC MAG D01)


As we can see from our results, both drives were able to read our test discs without any problems.

Let's compare the Pioneer DVR-111 with some other DL capable drives.

Drive

Size

Writing
Speed

Writing
Time

Book
Type

KProbe
avg.
PI

Kprobe
avg.
PIF

LG
GSA-5160D

8103 MB

2.4x

44m:25s
44m:41s

DVD-ROM

2.19
18.63

0.04
0.04*2

ASUS
DRW-1604P

8131 MB

4x

26m:58s

DVD-ROM

3.29

0.18

Samsung
TS-E522U

8103MB

6x
Z-CLV

23m:30s

DVD+DL

11.58

0.03*1

Philips
DVDR16LS

8103MB

2.4x

45m:52s

DVD-ROM

2.28

0.04*

NU
HDW-164

8103MB

4x

37m:00s

DVD-ROM

1.89

0.02*1

NEC
ND-3540A

8103MB

2.4x
2.4x
8x

44m:08s
44m:03s
19m:02

DVD-ROM

37.44
12.36
1.91

0.02*3
0.02*2
0.01*1

BenQ
DW1640

8152MB

8x

15m:36s

DVD-ROM

3.26

0.02

Pioneer
DVR-110D


8145MB

2.4x
2.4x
8x
2.4x

45m:13s
45m:29s
18m:04s
45m:15s

DVD-ROM

5.51
20.45
2.16
4.39

0.10*3
0.23*2
0.04*1
0.08*4

Samsung
SH-W162C

8103MB

2.4x
2.4x
6x

43m:43s
43m:45s
22m:15s

DVD-ROM

6.85
37.52
11.19

0.02*3
0.12*2
0.04*1

Pioneer
DVR-110

8145MB

8x

18m:11s

DVD-ROM

7.93

0.11*1

Lite-On
SHW-16H5S

8145MB

4x
2.4x
2.4x

26m:58s
43m:28s
44m:03s

DVD-ROM

2.05
2.31
20.70

0.08*1
0.25*2
0.06*3

Plextor
PX-750A

8145MB

8x
4x
4x
2x

18m:02s
27m:50s
27m:50s
45m:27s

DVD-ROM

6.84
43.46
81.52
6.87

0.07*5
0.53*1
0.56*3
0.21*4

Plextor
PX-755A

8145MB

10x
8x
6x
4x

15m:07s
16m:55s
19m:08s
27m:41s

DVD-ROM

3.01
17.28
5.16
3.50

0.10*5
2.51*6
0.12*1
0.50*4

Pioneer
DVR-111

8145MB

8x
2.4x
2.4x

17m:39s
45m:23s
45m:40s

DVD-ROM

31.07
17.28
3.25

0.22*1
2.51*3
0.14*4

*1 Verbatim DVD+R DL (MKM001)
*2 Traxdata DVD+R DL (RITEK D01)
*3 Ricoh DVD+R DL (RICOH JPN D00)
*4 Infiniti DVD+R DL (CMC MAG D01)
*5 Verbatim DVD+R DL (MKM 003)
*6 Ricoh DVD+R DL (JPN D01)


DVD-R DL

As mentioned at the top of this page, the Pioneer DVR-111 supports the DVD-R DL standard at 8x. Let us first take a look at the media we will use:

Let's find the manufacturer and media information too, for this we will use CD-Speed 4.50:

This media is manufactured by Mitsubishi Kagaku Media. Thanks to SVP UK for sending us this media.

Again, we used Nero Burning Rom 6 to write the DVD Image:

The Pioneer DVR-111 took 17 minutes and 26 seconds to write the Verbatim DVD-R DL media at 8x.

Now let's take a look at the Kprobe result:

Brand:

Verbatim - Thanks to SVP UK for providing this media.

Manufacturer:

Mitsubishi Kagaku Media

Code:

MKM 01RD30 

Disc Type:

DVD-R DL

Capacity:

8145MB

Certified Speed:

4x

Write Speed:

8x (Z-CLV)

Write Time:

17m:26s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

35.50

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.17

As we can see from our result, PI errors are quite high but within specification. PIF errors are fairly low except for a few worrying clusters after the layer break.

We will now check the read-back curves on two different drives.


Pioneer DVR-111 read-back test


BenQ DW1640 read-back test

As we can see from the above read-back tests; both drives were able to read the Verbatim DVD-R DL media without problems.

Standalone DVD-Player compatibility:


We only have 3 standalone DVD-Players available and 1 standalone DVD-RAM DVD-R recorder to test the DVD+R DL medias (Book Type: DVD-ROM) and the DVD-R DL media (Book Type: DVD-R):

  • Panasonic DVD-RV32
  • Panasonic SA-HT520
  • Proline DVDP350
  • Panasonic DMR-E50 recorder

Compatibility results: 

Drive

Ricoh
DVD+R DL

Infiniti
DVD+R DL

Verbatim
DVD+R DL

Verbatim
DVD-R DL

Comments

Panasonic
DVD-RV32

OK

OK

OK

OK

No problems.

Panasonic
SA-HT520

OK

OK

OK

FAILED

Plays the first layer but fails at the layer-break.

Panasonic
DMR-E50

OK

OK

OK

FAILED

Reports ?NO DISC?.  

Proline DVDP350
230G

OK

OK

OK

FAILED

Reports no valid disc

All our DVD Standalone devices played the DVD+R DL media burned by the Pioneer DVR-111 without any problems.

Only one DVD Standalone device would play the Pioneer DVR-111 burned DVD-R DL media without any problems.

We would like to mention, that the compatibility issue with standalone DVD Players/Recorders and the DVD-R DL media format is caused by incompatibilities with the standalone devices used in this review, and not the Pioneer DVR-111 or media format used.

Summary: The Pioneer DVR-111 burned our Double Layer media with good quality. All our test disc's were well within specification.

Let us take a look at DVD-RAM writing performance on the next page….

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Liked it. Very helpful for me.:)
Very helpful review material (superior to the majority of reviews found elsewhere on the web...) :)
Good review and bought one on the result of it.
Did my own tests on Verbatim -R 16x and got excellent results.
Whats the difference if it is 111BK version....
The 111BK is black ;)
This site helps me a lot on define if change my 111 for the new 212 and I realize that I shold keep my 111L... thank U a lot for help me not to make a bad desition!

I own a 111DBK with the firmware updated to L meaning LabelFlash... It's a shame that here in Argentina doesn't exist the corect media for LF, and the Lightscribe media is a racket!
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