ForumPioneer DVR-112 detail information
| Posted by | Wendy Collins |
| Posted on | 24/03/07 17:58 |
| Manufacturer | Pioneer |
| Product | Pioneer DVR-112 |
| Description | 18x DVD burner supporting DVD-RAM and 10x DVD DL writing speed |
| Awards |
Editor's Choice Award |
To round off this review, we will run some advanced tests on the Pioneer DVR-112. These tests are: “Sheep Test”, and some special disc tests.
For this test, we will use the Sheep tests made by Alexander Noé. Why is it called sheep test? That’s because the logo of the first 1 to 1 copy program called CloneCD is a sheep. When looking at supported writers, you will notice that the feature list has sheep to indicate if a feature is supported or not. In this case we are interested in the writer’s ability to backup/write weak sectors. Also called: “Correct EFM encoding of regular bit-patterns”.
- No sheep: Can’t backup any safedisc 2 versions without the help of software tricks
- 1 Sheep: Can backup safedisc 2 up to version 2.4x without software tricks
- 2 Sheep: Can backup safedisc 2, including version 2.5x
- 3 Sheep: Can write all possible weak sectors, few if any writers could do this.
One of our forum moderators Womble; has written a guide concerning the “Sheep Test” that can be and be found here.
In the screenshot below taken from CloneCD, we see the Pioneer DVR-112 supports everything.
The Pioneer DVR-112 supports DAO-RAW96 recording mode, which basically means, it can write uncorrected data and sub-channel data.
As we can see from the table and screenshots, the Pioneer DVR-112 is a “Two Sheep Burner”.
Overburning:
900MB (99 minute) over-burn test:
For this test we used an Infiniti Professional Compax 99min/900mb CD-R. (Thanks to Medea International (UK) for providing the disc).
WE attempted to burn a test disc of 97 minutes, the disc failed at 80 minutes. WE tried again with another disc and same applied. The burn failed at 80 minutes.
700MB (80 minute) over-burn test:
From the screenshot above, the Pioneer DVR-112 reported a maximum overburn capacity of 82:22.74. We attempted to burn a disc slightly less than the reported maximum capacity. To be exact we setup a test burn of 82 minutes and 10 seconds. The burn once again failed at 80 minutes.
DVD+R over-burn test:
We first tried to burn a DVD+R media.
As we can see from the above screenshot, the Pioneer DVR-112 does not support overburning on this media type.
DVD-R over-burn test:
We will now try a DVD-R media.
Again the Pioneer DVR-112 did not support overburning to the media type.
MINI DVD discs:
In this section we are going to test if the Pioneer DVR-112 is capable of writing and reading mini DVD-RW discs with a capacity of 30 minutes/1.46 GB.
The Memorex media is made by CMC Magnetics. Thanks to Memorex Europe for sending us this media.
The Pioneer DVR-112 had no problems in writing our test MINI DVD-RW disc. Now let’s find out if the drive can read the disc.
The Pioneer DVR-112 read our test MINI DVD-RW media without any problems.
Video-CD disc:
For our final test we wanted to see how the Pioneer DVR-112 would read a Video-CD, for this test we created a Video-CD with Nero Burning ROM 7, and used NERO CD-DVD Speed to read the disc back. Below is our result:
The Pioneer DVR-112 had no problems in reading our Video-CD disc at 40x read speed.
This concludes our Pioneer DVR-112 review. To read the conclusion, click on the link below.
DVD-RAM Read and write performance
Protected audio CD's are not available in my location. Maybe you can send me some to test
Doesn't screenshot show contrary(C2 - no, cache - yes)? Or it is wrong screenshot?
http://www.videohelp.com/forum/archive/t319198.html
Please update the review, because it's misleading.
The fact is they do support PI/PIF scanning just like the Pioneer drives do and that is all that is claimed in the review.
In addition huge spikes (up to PIE > 17 000) are often present on the graphs.
Your answer reminds me an old story with hotel reservation in India. If you just reserve a room with aircond there is a great chance that it will not working. In fact you must always precise "with working aircond" while booking.
I refolmulate me request. Could you please precise in the review that although the error reporting is indeed working, but the PIE level always exeeds the DVD+/-R specs. That is not the case with Lite-on, BENQ, NEC and Plextor.
This is not the case, BenQ and NEC drives often report out of spec scans on perfectly good burns. The Pioneer scan in the review is within specifcation.
I guarantee if you buy this, you will have lazer failiure in months, you have been warned.
A week later bought 2 Pioneer DVR-112D's from NewEgg, both of them are still working perfectly since March 2007, nothing but smooth sailing.
Also, overall the best DVD burner I've owned, next to the BenQ 1640...^_^
It totally ignores the lack of write quality as revealed in the well-known German computer magazine "c't" issue 2007/11 p. 122 which affects not only the Pioneer DVR-112 but a couple of new competitors drives as well.
Compared to an old test where they tested the DVR-111 (which I own) the write quality of the DVR-111 exceeded the write quality of the DVR-112 except for CD-R where the DVR-112 was better.
If these problems are not firmware based I would rather buy a DVR-111 again than a DVR-112.
c't assumes that the enourmous price pressure may have caused the degraded write quality with those new drives (not only Pioneer!) in their test.
I'm looking for some 110's or even 111's to replace them with.
Might try lite-on's instead next batch. Nightmare for me as a supplier. Cost me heaps ... just replacing discs alone.
No problem with any other type of disc. Awaiting advice from Pioneer.
Had 111D before this burner, excellent performer but couldn't write to dvd-ram.
By the way I'm going to buy another brand recorder for fail safe. Plextor - King of the quality? Well yes, but as well king of short life and failures! My opinion: never again!
I wonder what should I buy for second (backup-reserve) recorder? I was just thinking about Pioneer, while reading this review, when I read in the previous comments that they live short too. What a shame on Pioneer!
Gonna replace both of these with some newer DVR-115's
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