Pioneer DVR-112 detail information
| Posted by | Wendy Collins |
| Posted on | 24/03/07 17:58 |
| Manufacturer | Pioneer |
| Product | Pioneer DVR-112 |
| Description | 18x DVD burner supporting DVD-RAM and 10x DVD DL writing speed |
| Awards |
Editor's Choice Award |
The specifications of the Pioneer DVR-112 state that the drive is able to write CD-R discs at 40x and CD-RW at 32x. Let us find out how the drive really performs in speed and quality.
Writing Data CD-R discs:
For our data writing tests, we simply set up a new compilation of 703Mb using Nero Burning ROM software. Writing method used is DAO (Disc At Once), and the disc is set up as a non-multisession disc with “finalize disc” enabled. The screenshot below shows how long it takes to write a disc at the highest speed. (40x)

The Pioneer DVR-112 took 3 minutes and 55 seconds to write the disc at 40x. Let us see how this compares to other drives in the table below:
|
Nero Burning Rom |
Write |
Total |
|
Lite-On |
48x |
3m:20s |
|
Plextor |
40x |
3m:16s |
|
Plextor |
48x |
2m:43s |
|
Pioneer |
40x |
3m:28x |
|
Plextor |
48x |
2m:54s |
|
Samsung |
48x |
3m:08s |
|
Pioneer |
40x |
3m:55s |
The Pioneer DVR-112 was fairly slow when writing our test CD-R media.
Write quality:
We will test CD-R discs from many different CD-R manufacturers. To really measure the write speed, we used the “create data CD” function in Nero CD-Speed. The discs were written at the maximum speed that the drive supports. For the quality test, we used K-Probe 2 which is a tool developed by a Lite-On employee. It runs under Windows and works with drives made by Lite-On. Also note that different drives and different reading speeds may affect the results obtained when scanning the discs. We used a Lite-On SOHR-5238S drive with firmware 4S09 and scanned the discs at 48X speed.
A written CD-R disc will always have some C1 errors; C1 errors are easily corrected by the drive’s error correction capabilities. The next level of errors is C2, while C2 errors could also be corrected by most drive’s error correction capabilities; they are not wanted on a good quality disc. A good disc should not contain any C2 errors, and preferably have an average C1 error amount of below 2.0 for the best discs, or at least below 10.0 averages for good quality discs. After C2 errors, there are only un-correctable errors that will make a disc unusable.
Below are the obtained results:


|
Brand: |
Unbranded Printable. Thanks to SVP UK for sending us this media |
|
Manufacturer: |
Taiyo Yuden |
|
Code: |
97m24s01f |
|
Disc Type: |
CD-R |
|
Recording Layer: |
Dye Type 1: Long Strategy (Cyanine, AZO) |
|
Capacity: |
79:59.72 (703MB) |
|
Certified Speed: |
48x |
|
Write Speed: |
40x (CAV) |
|
Write Time: |
3m:16s |
|
C1 Average/Sec: |
0.18 |
|
C2 Average/Sec: |
0.0 |
An excellent result to start our CD-R quality tests, (highly recommended).


|
Brand: |
Verbatim Super AZ0+Crystal DL – Thanks to Verbatim UK for sending us this media. |
|
Manufacturer: |
Mitsubishi Chemicals Corporation |
|
Code: |
97m34s23f |
|
Disc Type: |
CD-R |
|
Recording Layer: |
Dye Type 3: Long Strategy (Cyanine, AZO) |
|
Capacity: |
79:59.70 (703MB) |
|
Certified Speed: |
52x |
|
Write Speed: |
40x (CAV) |
|
Write Time: |
3m:14s |
|
C1 Average/Sec: |
0.87 |
|
C2 Average/Sec: |
0.0 |
The write quality on the Verbatim 52x media is excellent, (Highly recommended).


|
Brand: |
RICOH – Thanks to RICOH Europe (BV) for sending us this media. |
|
Manufacturer: |
Moser Baer India Limited |
|
Code: |
97m17s06f |
|
Disc Type: |
CD-R |
|
Recording Layer: |
Dye Type 6: Short Strategy (Phthalocyanine) |
|
Capacity: |
79:59.74 (703MB) |
|
Certified Speed: |
1x-52x |
|
Write Speed: |
40x (CAV) |
|
Write Time: |
3m:14s |
|
C1 Average/Sec: |
0.87 |
|
C2 Average/Sec: |
0.0 |
Our RICOH media manufactured by Moser Baer India has burned with good quality.


|
Brand: |
BenQ – Thanks to Daxon (Taiwan) for sending us this media. |
|
Manufacturer: |
Daxon |
|
Code: |
97m22s67f |
|
Disc Type: |
CD-R |
|
Recording Layer: |
Dye Type 7: Short Strategy (Phthalocyanine) |
|
Capacity: |
79:59.70 (703MB) |
|
Certified Speed: |
48x |
|
Write Speed: |
40x (CAV) |
|
Write Time: |
3m:15s |
|
C1 Average/Sec: |
0.44 |
|
C2 Average/Sec: |
0.0 |
Once again we have an excellent result, (highly recommended).


|
Brand: |
HP – Thanks to Medea International (UK) for sending us this media. |
|
Manufacturer: |
CMC Magnetics |
|
Code: |
97m26s66f |
|
Disc Type: |
CD-R |
|
Recording Layer: |
Dye Type 6: Short Strategy (Phthalocyanine) |
|
Capacity: |
79:59.71 (703 MB) |
|
Certified Speed: |
52x |
|
Write Speed: |
40x (CAV) |
|
Write Time: |
3m:14s |
|
C1 Average/Sec: |
1.66 |
|
C2 Average/Sec: |
0.0 |
The HP media manufactured by CMC Magnetics has burned with excellent quality.


|
Brand: |
Infiniti Printable – Thanks to Medea |
|
Manufacturer: |
SKC |
|
Code: |
97m26s26f |
|
Disc Type: |
CD-R |
|
Recording Layer: |
Dye Type 6: Short Strategy (Phthalocyanine) |
|
Capacity: |
79:59.09 (703 MB) |
|
Certified Speed: |
52x |
|
Write Speed: |
40x (CAV) |
|
Write Time: |
3m:15s |
|
C1 Average/Sec: |
1.73 |
|
C2 Average/Sec: |
0.0 |
Another excellent result.


|
Brand: |
Verbatim Super AZO – Thanks to Verbatim UK for sending us this media |
|
Manufacturer: |
Mitsubishi Chemicals Corporation |
|
Code: |
97m34s23f |
|
Disc Type: |
CD-R |
|
Recording Layer: |
Dye Type 3: Long Strategy (Cyanine, AZO) |
|
Capacity: |
79:59.70 (703MB) |
|
Certified Speed: |
48x |
|
Write Speed: |
40x (CAV) |
|
Write Time: |
3m:14s |
|
C1 Average/Sec: |
1.14 |
|
C2 Average/Sec: |
0.0 |
And another excellent result.
Writing Quality with Re-Writable discs:


|
Brand: |
Verbatim Ultra speed 32x – Thanks to Verbatim UK for sending us this media. |
|
Manufacturer: |
Mitsubishi Chemicals Corporation |
|
Code: |
97m34s25f |
|
Disc Type: |
Ultra Speed CD-RW 32x |
|
Recording Layer: |
Phase Change |
|
Capacity: |
79:59.74 (703MB) |
|
Certified Speed: |
32x |
|
Write Speed: |
32x (Z-CLV) |
|
Write Time: |
3m:45s |
|
C1 Average/Sec: |
7.27 |
|
C2 Average/Sec: |
0.00 |
The result is good.


|
Brand: |
Traxdata – Thanks to Conrexx (NL) |
|
Manufacturer: |
Ritek. |
|
Code: |
97m27s12f |
|
Disc Type: |
High Speed CD-RW 8-24x |
|
Recording Layer: |
Phase Change |
|
Capacity: |
74:41.00 |
|
Certified Speed: |
12x |
|
Write Speed: |
10x (Z-CLV) |
|
Write Time: |
8m:34s |
|
C1 Average/Sec: |
4.06 |
|
C2 Average/Sec: |
0.0 |
The result is good.
Summary:
CD-R writing quality and media compatibility is excellent with the Pioneer DVR-112 and CD-RW writing quality is good/very good.
Now let’s head on to the next page where we will test DVD recordable performance….



Protected audio CD's are not available in my location. Maybe you can send me some to test









Doesn't screenshot show contrary(C2 - no, cache - yes)? Or it is wrong screenshot?





http://www.videohelp.com/forum/archive/t319198.html
Please update the review, because it's misleading.


The fact is they do support PI/PIF scanning just like the Pioneer drives do and that is all that is claimed in the review.


In addition huge spikes (up to PIE > 17 000) are often present on the graphs.
Your answer reminds me an old story with hotel reservation in India. If you just reserve a room with aircond there is a great chance that it will not working. In fact you must always precise "with working aircond" while booking.
I refolmulate me request. Could you please precise in the review that although the error reporting is indeed working, but the PIE level always exeeds the DVD+/-R specs. That is not the case with Lite-on, BENQ, NEC and Plextor.


This is not the case, BenQ and NEC drives often report out of spec scans on perfectly good burns. The Pioneer scan in the review is within specifcation.








I guarantee if you buy this, you will have lazer failiure in months, you have been warned.


A week later bought 2 Pioneer DVR-112D's from NewEgg, both of them are still working perfectly since March 2007, nothing but smooth sailing.
Also, overall the best DVD burner I've owned, next to the BenQ 1640...^_^




It totally ignores the lack of write quality as revealed in the well-known German computer magazine "c't" issue 2007/11 p. 122 which affects not only the Pioneer DVR-112 but a couple of new competitors drives as well.
Compared to an old test where they tested the DVR-111 (which I own) the write quality of the DVR-111 exceeded the write quality of the DVR-112 except for CD-R where the DVR-112 was better.
If these problems are not firmware based I would rather buy a DVR-111 again than a DVR-112.
c't assumes that the enourmous price pressure may have caused the degraded write quality with those new drives (not only Pioneer!) in their test.


I'm looking for some 110's or even 111's to replace them with.
Might try lite-on's instead next batch. Nightmare for me as a supplier. Cost me heaps ... just replacing discs alone.


No problem with any other type of disc. Awaiting advice from Pioneer.
Had 111D before this burner, excellent performer but couldn't write to dvd-ram.


By the way I'm going to buy another brand recorder for fail safe. Plextor - King of the quality? Well yes, but as well king of short life and failures! My opinion: never again!
I wonder what should I buy for second (backup-reserve) recorder? I was just thinking about Pioneer, while reading this review, when I read in the previous comments that they live short too. What a shame on Pioneer!







Gonna replace both of these with some newer DVR-115's

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