Pioneer DVR-112 detail information
| Posted by | Wendy Collins |
| Posted on | 24/03/07 17:58 |
| Manufacturer | Pioneer |
| Product | Pioneer DVR-112 |
| Description | 18x DVD burner supporting DVD-RAM and 10x DVD DL writing speed |
| Awards |
Editor's Choice Award |
Test machine
For this review we will be using a computer with the following configuration:
Hardware:
- Motherboard: ASUSTeK P5W DH Deluxe (Intel Glendale DG I975x chipset)
- Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E6600
- RAM: 2 GB OCZ Platinum dual channel kit DDR2 800
- GFX: BFG nVidia 8800GTS (640 Megabytes GDDR3)
- Sound: Onboard Realtek ALC882 HD audio controller
- Hard disk: 2X 250GB Seagate Barracuda (SATA 2)
System setup:

The Pioneer DVR-112 was connected to a Primary Slave IDE channel. As we can see from the above screenshot, Nero InfoTool reports the Pioneer DVR-112 as a UDMA4 compatible device.
And another screenshot from Nero InfoTool:

From the screenshot from Nero InfoTool above, we can see the Pioneer DVR-112 supports DVD-RAM read/write but the drive does not support Mount Rainier. The drive came shipped with firmware version 1.09.
Installed software:
Our review PC has Windows Vista Home Premium 64 bit installed.
Features and techniques

The Pioneer DVR-112 is powered by an NEC MC-10041 chipset.

In the above screenshot we can see the internal PCB of the Pioneer DVR-112.
Disc Quality Scanning:
The Pioneer DVR-112 can be used along with Nero CD-Speed for “Disc Quality Scanning”.

Disc Quality Scan at 8x scanning speed using CD-Speed.
BookType (Bitsetting):
The Pioneer DVR-112 supports automatic bit-setting, and is capable of writing DVD+R DL media with DVD-ROM book type. However, Bit-Setting of DVD+R/RW is not supported.
Here is how you could check if your discs are really written with DVD-ROM book type:
Start Nero CD-DVD Speed and click the Disc info button and you should get something like this:

DVD+R DL with book type DVD-ROM
Another quick test is to start Nero CD-Speed and look at the disc information:

Writing technique
Now it’s time to take a closer look at the write technology used by the Pioneer DVR-112:
For these tests we used CD-Speed and wrote a full disc at the drives maximum speed.
CD Recordable:
According to the specifications of the Pioneer DVR-112, it should be able to write CD-R media at a maximum speed of 40x.

The Pioneer DVR-112 uses CAV, (Constant Angular Velocity), to write at its maximum speed of 40X. This gives an average speed of 30.27x and a total writing time of 3 minutes and 14 seconds.
For comparison we have made the following table:
|
CD-R |
Supported |
Write |
Start |
End |
Average |
Write |
|
NEC |
48x |
CAV |
21.41x |
47.92x |
36.32x |
3m:02s |
|
Philips |
48x |
CAV |
21.33x |
48.06x |
35.53x |
3m:04s |
|
Samsung |
48x |
CAV |
21.88x |
48.36 |
37.21x |
2m:52s |
|
Samsung |
48x |
CAV |
21.94x |
48.24x |
37.30x |
2m:52s |
|
Samsung |
48x |
CAV |
21.82x |
48.52x |
37.21x |
3m:00s |
|
Pioneer |
40x |
CAV |
17.83x |
40.47x |
30.27x |
3m:14s |
As we can see, the Pioneer DVR-112 was the slowest compared to our other drives when writing CD-R media.
CD Re-writable:
According to the specifications of the Pioneer DVR-112, it should be able to write CD-RW media at a maximum speed of 32x.

The Pioneer DVR-112 uses Z-CLV, (Zoned Constant Linear Velocity), to write at its maximum speed of 32X. This gives an average speed of 24.97x and a total writing time of 3 minutes and 45 seconds.
For comparison we have made the following table:
|
CD-RW |
Supported |
Write |
Start |
End |
Average |
Write |
|
NEC |
32x |
Z-CLV |
20.08x |
32.00x |
29.71x |
3m:11s |
|
Philips |
32x |
P-CAV |
21.37x |
32.16x |
29.77x |
3m:20s |
|
Samsung |
32x |
Z-CLV |
16.09x |
32.30x |
28.44x |
3m:35s |
|
Samsung |
32x |
Z-CLV |
16.01x |
32.02x |
28.28x |
3m:38s |
|
Samsung |
32x |
Z-CLV |
16.09x |
32.18x |
28.44x |
3m:27s |
|
Pioneer |
32x |
Z-CLV |
16.03x |
32.07x |
24.97x |
3m:45s |
As we can see, the Pioneer DVR-112 was a little slower compared to our other drives when writing CD-RW media.
18x DVD+R/-R writing speed:
According to the specifications of the Pioneer DVR-112, it should be able to write DVD+R/-R media at a maximum speed of 18x.

DVD+R
The Pioneer DVR-112 uses CAV, (Constant Angular Velocity), to write at its maximum speed of 18X. This gives an average speed of 13.17x and a total writing time of 5 minutes and 11 seconds.

DVD-R
The Pioneer DVR-112 uses CAV, (Constant Angular Velocity), to write at its maximum speed of 18X. This gives an average speed of 13.12x and a total writing time of 5 minutes and 13 seconds.
For comparison we have made the following table:
|
18x |
Supported |
Write |
Start |
End |
Average |
Write |
|
Samsung |
18x +R |
CAV |
7.54x |
18.12x |
13.21x |
5m:34s |
|
Optiarc |
18x +R |
CAV |
7.53x |
18.02x |
13.26x |
5m:26s |
|
Plextor |
18x +R |
CAV |
7.23x |
18.00x |
12.41x |
5m:34s |
|
Samsung |
18x +R |
CAV |
7.62x |
18.24x |
13.46x |
5m:19s |
|
Pioneer |
18x +R |
CAV |
7.51x |
18.16x |
13.17x |
5m:11s |
As we can see from our table, the Pioneer DVR-112 was the fastest drive when writing DVD±R media.
8X DVD+RW writing speed:
According to the specifications of the Pioneer DVR-112, it should be able to write DVD+RW at a maximum speed of 8x.

The Pioneer DVR-112 uses Z-CLV, (Zoned Constant Linear Velocity), to write at its maximum speed of 8X. This gives an average speed of 7.83x and a total writing time of 7 minutes and 42 seconds.
For comparison we have made the following table:
|
DVD+RW |
Writing |
Average |
Writing |
|
Pioneer |
8x Z-CLV |
7.83x |
7m:26s |
|
Plextor |
8x P-CAV |
7.87x |
7m:15s |
|
Samsung |
8x Z-CLV |
6.96x |
9m:12s |
|
Pioneer |
8x Z-CLV |
7.83x |
7m:42s |
The Pioneer DVR-112 was about average at writing our test DVD+RW media.
6x DVD-RW writing speed:
According to the specifications of the Pioneer DVR-112, it should be able to write DVD-RW at a maximum speed of 6x.

The Pioneer DVR-112 uses CLV, (Constant Linear Velocity), to write at its maximum speed of 6X. This gives an average speed of 6.02x and a total writing time of 9 minutes and 50 seconds.
For comparison we have made the following table:
|
DVD-RW |
Writing |
Average |
Writing |
|
Pioneer |
6x CLV |
6.01x |
9m:56s |
|
Plextor |
6x CLV |
6.03x |
10m:00s |
|
Samsung |
6x Z-CLV |
5.67x |
10m:44s |
|
Pioneer |
6x CLV |
6.02x |
9m:50s |
The Pioneer DVR-112 was the fastest drive when writing DVD-RW media.
10x DVD+R DL writing speed:
According to the specifications of the Pioneer DVR-112, it should be able to write DVD+R DL at a maximum speed of 10x.

The Pioneer DVR-112 uses Z-CLV, (Zoned Constant Linear Velocity), to write at its maximum speed of 10X. This gives an average speed of 8.55x and a total writing time of 15 minutes and 07 seconds.
10x DVD-R DL writing speed:
According to the specifications of the Pioneer DVR-112, it should be able to write DVD-R DL at a maximum speed of 10x.

The Pioneer DVR-112 uses Z-CLV, (Zoned Constant Linear Velocity), to write at its maximum speed of 10X. This gives an average speed of 8.47x and a total writing time of 15 minutes and 31 seconds.
For comparison we have made the following table:
|
DVD DL |
Size |
Writing |
Writing |
Book |
|
Plextor |
8152MB |
DVD+R DL 10x |
14m:14s |
DVD-ROM |
|
Pioneer |
8152MB |
DVD+R DL 8x |
17m:03s |
DVD-ROM |
|
Plextor |
8152MB |
DVD+R DL 10x |
13m:55s |
DVD-ROM |
|
Samsung |
8152MB |
DVD+R DL 8x |
19m:06s |
DVD-ROM |
|
Pioneer |
8152MB |
DVD+R DL 10x |
15m:07s |
DVD-ROM |
The Pioneer DVR-112 was among the fastest drives when writing DVD+R DL and the fastest drive when writing DVD-R DL media.
12x DVD-RAM writing speed:
According to the specifications of the Pioneer DVR-112, it should be able to write DVD-RAM at a maximum speed of 12x.

The Pioneer DVR-112 uses P-CAV, (Partial Constant Angular Velocity), to write at its maximum speed of 12X. This gives an average speed of 10.35x and a total writing time of 5 minutes and 33 seconds.
For comparison we have made the following table:
|
DVD-RAM |
Writing |
Average |
Writing |
|
Pioneer |
5x CLV |
4.83x |
11m:30s |
|
Plextor |
5x CLV |
4.98x |
11m:08s |
|
Samsung |
12x P-CAV |
10.11x |
5m:42s |
|
Pioneer |
12x P-CAV |
10.35x |
5m:33s |
The Pioneer DVR-112 was the fastest drive when writing DVD-RAM media.
Let’s head on to the next page where we will check reading performance….



Protected audio CD's are not available in my location. Maybe you can send me some to test









Doesn't screenshot show contrary(C2 - no, cache - yes)? Or it is wrong screenshot?





http://www.videohelp.com/forum/archive/t319198.html
Please update the review, because it's misleading.


The fact is they do support PI/PIF scanning just like the Pioneer drives do and that is all that is claimed in the review.


In addition huge spikes (up to PIE > 17 000) are often present on the graphs.
Your answer reminds me an old story with hotel reservation in India. If you just reserve a room with aircond there is a great chance that it will not working. In fact you must always precise "with working aircond" while booking.
I refolmulate me request. Could you please precise in the review that although the error reporting is indeed working, but the PIE level always exeeds the DVD+/-R specs. That is not the case with Lite-on, BENQ, NEC and Plextor.


This is not the case, BenQ and NEC drives often report out of spec scans on perfectly good burns. The Pioneer scan in the review is within specifcation.








I guarantee if you buy this, you will have lazer failiure in months, you have been warned.


A week later bought 2 Pioneer DVR-112D's from NewEgg, both of them are still working perfectly since March 2007, nothing but smooth sailing.
Also, overall the best DVD burner I've owned, next to the BenQ 1640...^_^




It totally ignores the lack of write quality as revealed in the well-known German computer magazine "c't" issue 2007/11 p. 122 which affects not only the Pioneer DVR-112 but a couple of new competitors drives as well.
Compared to an old test where they tested the DVR-111 (which I own) the write quality of the DVR-111 exceeded the write quality of the DVR-112 except for CD-R where the DVR-112 was better.
If these problems are not firmware based I would rather buy a DVR-111 again than a DVR-112.
c't assumes that the enourmous price pressure may have caused the degraded write quality with those new drives (not only Pioneer!) in their test.


I'm looking for some 110's or even 111's to replace them with.
Might try lite-on's instead next batch. Nightmare for me as a supplier. Cost me heaps ... just replacing discs alone.


No problem with any other type of disc. Awaiting advice from Pioneer.
Had 111D before this burner, excellent performer but couldn't write to dvd-ram.


By the way I'm going to buy another brand recorder for fail safe. Plextor - King of the quality? Well yes, but as well king of short life and failures! My opinion: never again!
I wonder what should I buy for second (backup-reserve) recorder? I was just thinking about Pioneer, while reading this review, when I read in the previous comments that they live short too. What a shame on Pioneer!







Gonna replace both of these with some newer DVR-115's

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