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Posted by Jan Willem
Posted on 21/09/01 20:53
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Audio performance
 

Audio perfomance:
The next test we perform is a very hard and intense test for any reader; the advanced DAE test from CDspeed. To perform this test CDspeed makes a test-CDR that puts your drive to the max.


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The advanced DAE test gives 99.8 -) not bad, but not perfect.


We were a little bit annoyed that this new Plextor couldn't get a 100% score, this in contrast with the PX-40TS with the same disc. This was for us a reason to contact Eric Deppe, the creator of the advanced DAE test.

Eric Deppe from CDspeed:


  • The fact that the Plextor 40x could get a perfect score shows that the test-disc is fine.
    Apparantly it looks like the performance of the new 24/10/40 are less accurate.

  • A score of 97% is ofcourse not bad at all, however a little bit dissappointing for a Plextor drive. Meanwhile Plextor released firmware V1.02 and fixed the problem, giving it a 100% DAE score with the same disc.

  • When the Advanced DAE Quality test was just brought out, the Plextor 40x was the only drive that could get a 100% score. Most drives performed around 80%. It is very likely that Plextor releases a newer firmware that enhances the DAE quality, just like they did with the 12/10/32.

  • The DAE test is is much more heavier than normal circumstances like a test performed with EAC. This means that the 24/10/40 under normal circumstancesa good performer is, but under heavy circumstances sometimes fails.

  • The offset in raw mode can indeed be different than in DAO. In case of Plextor drives it is not appropriate to use the RAW mode to make a test disc since Plextor drives cannot perform OPC before writing in RAW mode (in contradiction to DAO). CD Speed doesn't do OPC so a CD in RAW mode written can give worse results.

  • If the drive hangs bij testing the lead-out this usually means that the drive is capable of reading far in the lead-out. I personally think that Plextor drives can read the whole lead-out.
    CD Speed continues to read until the drive reports an error.


  • And than we got from Plextor Firmware revision V1.02 This is where beauty really exists.
    I can't tell enough about it, but concerning support and feedback Plextor is the worldchampion. Because, yes... also for this test we have installed the new firmware and look at the results!:





    Conclusion:

    Although we experienced in the beginning a lot of problems with the difficult DAE it seems that finally this Plextor is again a winner. The testing results were there and we experienced no flaws by hearing the result. The test also depents on the quality of the media used and the acceptation of the drive regarding this media.
    For the above test we used the following CDR's:

  • TDK ultra reflex 80min
  • Infiniti CDR80 20x 80min
  • Sony CDR 74 16x
  • Carbon Audio CDR 80min
  • Frosted CDR 30x certified !

    What we experienced while making this review was the intrest from Plextor in making from this drive also the absolute N°1.

    If you keep in mind that Plextor always brings her products on the market as an innovator and succeeds after a while to tune these drives as perfect beings we must admit that Plextor has indeed a very good reputation and definately earns the right for the number one spot.
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    Excellent and comprehensive review. You leave us with only one question:

    Where did you get the 1.02 firmware?

    It is not posted on any of Plextor's websites yet.

    Please share a link if you can!
    Excelent review of this great piece of hardware.
    I think i am going to get one myself to :4
    Where did you find the 1.02 version of firmware?
    Firmware 1.02 is not offically out yet.

    We had permission from Plextor to publish the results of this new firmware before it is offically released.

    It will be available soon! But we wanted to let u cdfreakers know the results before it is even released! :)
    I make a back up of NHL2002. Firmware 1.01; 16 minutes!!!!

    The game work perfect. Great burner:)
    How can i find out wich firmware revision i have on my Plextor 24/10/40 in Windows XP
    How can I copy NHL 2002 ?? It has Safedisc 2 Protection, im reading with fast error skipping, intelligent bad sector scanning and disabling read error reports. I upgraded to 1.01 firmware.
    Use your Plextor for read

    Fast error skip
    Setting:

    read speed max: 4
    read retries: 3
    error corections: none

    Stay tuned
    compare to 12x-10x-32x scsi, which is faster?
    What TLA# is on the drive you tested?
    I have one with TLA#0000 at work and with TLA#0100 at home, didn't have a chance to test any of them with SD2 yet.
    Where can I find 1.01 Firmware ?
    Plextor firmwares are here:
    www.plextor.be
    Tested both drives with TLA #0000 and #0100, firmware 1.02, both copy SD2 fine.
    Hi!

    I read your review and found one strange thing; As far as i know, Plextor 1610a does support only RAW reading but no sub codes. According to review you were able to perform sub code reading in LaserLock and SecuRom tests. I have the PX-1610A and haven´t been able to perform sub channel read with CloneCD or BlindRead. Both apps inform that the 1610 is not able to read subs. Am i stupid or why is it not working? I´ve used fm 1.02 and 1.03. With my Toshiba CD-Rom sub codes work fine with both apps.

    PS. do you have a clue where can i find older firmwares to PX-1610A (1.0, 1.01, 1.02)?
    hoi xosak

    thanks for your test,
    but it seems that TLA#0100, can't copy protected audio cd's and the TLA#0000 can copy protected audio cd's.

    I do not know this is true, but it is mentioned on several forums on the internet.

    Does any body know with what TLA number the test on cdfreaks is made with
    I make a perfect copy of NHL 2002 on my PX_W2410TA tla #0000 with Clone CD in 17 min. I use Clony XL for setting's. :4 PLEX IS THE BEST :)
    firmware 1.02 at
    www.plextor.be
    copy of safe disc 2 RA2 (game) don`t work in Ricoh CD-RWDVD but works everywhere else,
    copy made with Acer 1208
    CD-RW work fine in Ricoh :o
    http://www.plextor.be/English/technical/download.html
    this is the exact page in the internet for firmware 1.02
    The best u can buy :7
    Thanks for your job
    you are fantastic
    thanks thanks thanks thanks
    Bought one and it is an excellent writer haven't had any problems yet :)
    I'm using mine for a week now and loving it.

    My previous burner was a Sony CRX-140s and was OK - but the Plextor is in a different league alltogether! :g
    Plextor rulez!!
    After i read this review I am a Believer again. Great test. Great drive.
    :)
    :( I could not copy fifa 2002 with 241040a.....only works if daemon or hide cdr is enabled..ideas?
    The LiteON drive is CHEAPER and JUST AS GOOD! Convert, you fools!
    Have both the Plextor and the Lite-On 24x !!
    My favorite by far is the Lite-On(Damn Best Writer I ever used)Lite-On should have gooten the higher score over Plextor; but I guess some people's old habits dye hard !!! Enjoy !
    If you want your reviews to be taken seriously you guys really need someone who understands the english language and can spell to edit these reviews.
    GREAT review..
    I am looking now for a new burner, and I was thinking of maybe buying the cheaper LG or Lite-On ones... but afetr your review.. .well .. let's just say I can't find any excuse not to buy a nice Plextor...
    Thanks Again!!
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