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Posted on 19/09/06 21:04
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CD R/RW Writing performance
 

The specifications of the Samsung SH-S182D state that the drive is able to write CD-R discs at 48x and CD-RW at 32x. Let us find out how the drive really performs in speed and quality.

 

Writing Data CD-R discs:


For our data writing tests, we simply set up a new compilation of 700Mb using Nero Burning ROM software. Writing method used is DAO (Disc At Once), and the disc is set up as a non-multisession disc with 'finalize disc" enabled. The screenshot below shows how long it takes to write a disc at the highest speed. (48x):

The drive used 2 minutes and 59 seconds to write the disc at 48x. Let us see how this compares to other drives:

  • Samsung SH-W162L used 2 minutes and 53 seconds at 48x
  • Philips DVDR1660 used 2 minutes and 49 seconds at 48x
  • NEC ND-4551A used 2 minutes and 51 seconds at 48x
  • NEC ND-4550A used 3 minutes and 5 seconds at 48x
  • Philips DVDR1648 used 2 minutes and 50 seconds at 48x

 

Write Quality:


We will test CD-R discs from different CD-R manufacturers. To really measure the write speed, we used the 'create data CD" function in Nero CD-Speed. The discs were written at the maximum speed that the drive supports. For the quality test, we used KProbe 2 which is a tool developed by a Lite-On employee. It runs under Windows and works with drives made by Lite-On. Also note that different drives and different reading speeds may affect the results obtained when scanning the discs. We used a Lite-On SOHR-5238S drive with firmware 4S09 and scanned the discs at 48X speed.

A written CD-R disc will always have some C1 errors; C1 errors are easily corrected by the drive's error correction capabilities. The next level of errors is C2, while C2 errors could also be corrected by most drive's error correction capabilities; they are not wanted on a good quality disc. A good disc should not contain any C2 errors, and preferably have an average C1 error amount of below 2.0 for the best discs, or at least below 10.0 averages for good quality discs. After C2 errors, there are only un-correctable errors that will make a disc unusable.

Below are the obtained results:

Brand:

BenQ CD-R Thanks to Daxon
for sending us this media

Manufacturer:

Daxon Inc.

Code:

97m22s67f

Disc Type:

CD-R

Recording Layer:

Dye Type 7: Short Strategy (Phthalocyanine)

Capacity:

79:59.74 (703MB)

Certified Speed:

52x

Write Speed:

48x

Write Time:

2m:54s

C1 Average/Sec:

0.41

C2 Average/Sec:

0.0

BenQ media with average C1 errors of 0.41 - it goes into the group 'best quality discs" category.

 

Brand:

RICOH - Thanks to RICOH Europe (D)
for sending us this media.

Manufacturer:

Moser Baer India Limited

Code:

97m17s06f

Disc Type:

CD-R

Recording Layer:

Dye Type 6: Short Strategy (Phthalocyanine)

Capacity:

79:59.74 (703MB)

Certified Speed:

1x-52x

Write Speed:

40x (P-CAV)

Write Time:

2m:57s

C1 Average/Sec:

0.72

C2 Average/Sec:

0.0

RICOH media - manufactured by Moser Baer India Limited and with its average of 0.72 it goes in the 'best quality" category.


Brand:

Traxdata - Thanks to Conrexx (NL)
for sending us this media.

Manufacturer:

Ritek

Code:

97m15s17f

Disc Type:

CD-R

Recording Layer:

Dye Type 7: Short Strategy (Phthalocyanine)

Capacity:

79:59.70 (703MB)

Certified Speed:

52x

Write Speed:

48x

Write Time:

2m:53s

C1 Average/Sec:

0.86

C2 Average/Sec:

0.0

This media goes into the category 'best quality discs" for its C1 average with 0.86.



 

Brand:

Miflop Extreme Printable. Thanks to MiFlop Media
for sending us this media

Manufacturer:

Taiyo Yuden

Code:

97m24s01f

Disc Type:

CD-R

Recording Layer:

Dye Type 1: Long Strategy (Cyanine, AZO)

Capacity:

79:59.72 (703MB)

Certified Speed:

48x

Write Speed:

40x (P-CAV)

Write Time:

2m:58s

C1 Average/Sec:

0.24

C2 Average/Sec:

0.0

Media made by Taiyo Yuden have always had a good reputation and with the average C1 errors of 0.24 it goes into the group 'best quality discs" category.


Brand:

Ultron - Thanks to Ultron AG (D)
for sending us this media.

Manufacturer:

SONY Corporation

Code:

97m24s16f

Disc Type:

CD-R

Recording Layer:

Dye Type 6: Short Strategy (Phthalocyanine)

Capacity:

79:59.73 (703MB)

Certified Speed:

52x

Write Speed:

32x (P-CAV)

Write Time:

3m:17s

C1 Average/Sec:

0.99

C2 Average/Sec:

0.0

This 52x certified media was only burned at 32x, however the quality is very good and with the average C1 errors of 0.99 it goes into the group 'best quality discs" category.


 

Brand:

Verbatim - Thanks to Verbatim (D)
for sending us this media.

Manufacturer:

Mitsubishi Chemicals Corporation

Code:

97m34s23f

Disc Type:

CD-R

Recording Layer:

Dye Type 3: Long Strategy (Cyanine, AZO)

Capacity:

79:59.73 (703MB)

Certified Speed:

52x

Write Speed:

48x

Write Time:

2m:52s

C1 Average/Sec:

0.34

C2 Average/Sec:

0.0

Verbatim - a well-known brand showed us a C1 average of 0.34 - it goes into the category 'Best Discs".

 

Writing Quality with Re-Writable discs:


We will also test CD-RW discs from different CD-RW manufacturers. Settings and testing procedures is the same as used earlier in this review, so you may want to go back and read them if you are unsure. All discs used for these tests have been written to before, but none have been written to more than 5 times.

CD-ReWritable media:


 

Brand:

Verbatim - Thanks to Verbatim (D)
for sending us this media.

Manufacturer:

Mitsubishi Chemicals Corporation

Code:

97m34s25f

Disc Type:

Ultra Speed CD-RW 32x

Recording Layer:

Phase Change

Capacity:

79:59.74 (703MB)

Certified Speed:

32x

Write Speed:

32x

Write Time:

3m:30s

C1 Average/Sec:

52.21

C2 Average/Sec:

0.0

The C1 errors are quite high, but at least there were no C2 errors.

Summary:
The CD-R writing quality is excellent, and the CD-RW quality could be improved.

 

So let us head on to next page and read about DVD-Writing performance…

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Reactions on this item
Hello!
I have this Samsung product and I'm dealing with a serious problem:

One of the features listed is: "The Samsung SH-S182D supports bit-setting, and is capable of writing DVD+R, DVD+RW and DVD+R DL media with DVD-ROM book type."

Well, the one I have in my computer CAN'T do this!!!

I open Nero Burning ROM, go to "Choose recorder", as it is shown in this review, and for my surprise the option "Book type settings" at the bottom of the dialog box DOESN'T EXIST!

Only the optons "Super link enabled" and "DVD high compatibility mode" are there! How is this possible?

If someone here have any ideas about my problem, I'd be very glad! Just e-mail me: danielcl_colorado@yahoo.com.br.

Thanks! :c
:( have same writer does anydody know why DL discS are showing as CDs.....tried 3 different makes of discs no joy
I have the SH-S182F model which I think is basically the same. It is a great drive so far. It can read discs well and does excellent burns. Seems like they teamed up with Toshiba because the retail box says "Toshiba Samsung Storage Technology Corporation", abbreviated "TSST". Made in Korea. (Thank God it's not made in China)

I am just curious why it causes the hard drive LED to light up continuously when watching a DVD movie. My previous Lite-On didn't cause the hard drive LED to light up at all.

The movie plays fine though. Anyone know why this is? Thanks in advance. :)
I have a serious problem with the samsung sh-s182d it cannot read its own burn cds and dvds and it shows many of cds or dvds as a blank disc. Somebody please help me and if possible please send the solution to my mail i.e azmath_85@hotmail.com.
Thanks,this is a very good review on this burner!
I have the SH-S182F model which I think it's the same as this one, does anyone knows if it's possible to bitset to DVD-ROM? If you know how please write me to jcma90@gmail.com :)
I have the SH-S182D model too and it takes about 4 hours 15 mins to encode and burn a normal length movie .. my old burner never took this long .. whats up with that ? :c
Mine is gawdawful SLOW... It didn't use to be so bad. I am not sure what happened. I've got the latest FW, reinstalled all the samsung magic speed and all, it's set to dma mode, I don't know what else to do. It's not too picky about discs and the burns usually come out good but now it's taking like half hour 45 mins to rip a DVD9 and about half an hour to burn one, AFTER encoding. It's f'n ridiculous. Burns CD fine, full disc like 2.5 mins... DVDs fuggetaboudit...
Any ideas???
Mine is starting to act the same way. Burning DVD at at various speed sometime at .84X! :-( - Unbelievable! I did upgrade firmware ver SB05 but no help.
Advises are appreciated.
An
I have the same problem. I bought 3 of this type SH-S182D, from one provider. It reads nice, but always burns DVD`s very slow. It`s stable after upgraded firmware to SB04. But it always takes 1 hour and 8m to burn a dvd. Have tried both +/- different machines, Linux/XP, DMA, 80 conductor cables, etc. So now I don`t know what to do. Maybe drop Samsung and buy other brand? Or maybe its my PC`s?
I fixed the problem with slow DVD burn described in the post above!

"Posted by ragnar (guest) on Saturday 22 March 2008 23:17
I have the same problem. I bought 3 of this type SH-S182D, from one provider. It reads nice, but always burns DVD`s very slow. It`s stable after upgraded firmware to SB04. But it always takes 1 hour and 8m to burn a dvd. Have tried both +/- different machines, Linux/XP, DMA, 80 conductor cables, etc. So now I don`t know what to do. Maybe drop Samsung and buy other brand? Or maybe its my PC`s?"


I didn`t know about the firmware upgrade SB06, I thought the SB04 was the newest. I upgraded firmware from S04 to S06. And that fixed the problem!!! I now burn a DVD 4574510KB (4468GB) in 8min 47sec!!!! Finally!

Here is the link to the firmware upgrade file SB06:

http://org.downloadcenter.samsung.com/downloadfile/ContentsFile.aspx?CDSite=us&CttFileID=1528503&CDCttType=FM&ModelType=N&ModelName=SH-S182D&VPath=FM/200706/20070622093010250_SH-S182D_SB06.zip
Or click here for page:
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/download/supportDownDetail.do?group=computersperipherals&type=opticaldiscdrives&subtype=dvdwriter&model_nm=SH-S182D&language=&cate_type=all&mType=FM&dType=D&vType=R&cttID=1528503&prd_ia_cd=05050500&disp_nm=SH-S182D


Good luck with your Samsung product!


:g
I have the exct same drive in black
just upgraded the firmwae from SB04 to SB06

theve changed the method of upgrading firmware, unfortunately the batch of softwares they used to have for this drive have been removed from their site.
they were pretty usefull, like disk speed adjuster and stuff

Iv just recently encounted defection on my drive, probably due to neglecting the button and slamming the tray shut all the time.
so now it pops the disk out randomly.

abotu ppl getting the they insert as CD, if u are using nero adn is your 1st time, sellect the drive as TSST corp SH-S182D

when selecting to burn, on the bottom right corner sellect the size of ur disk, dvd5 or 9

usualy nero 8 detects this automaticaly
Why doesnt the LED light come on my SH-S182D? It works perfectly otherwise?
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