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Posted by Jan S.
Posted on 19/09/06 21:04
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DVD RAM performance
 

DVD-RAM:


The Samsung SH-S182D is a so-called Multi Recorder, meaning it also supports the DVD-RAM format.

This drive is one of few drives that also supports the DVD-RAM format, lets us look at the recording side of the disc, and as you can see it has differences from the other DVD+R/W/R9 DL and DVD-R/W discs.

 

We can see a very fascinating pattern of darker spots. These tick marks are "address information" ("Pre-mastered Pit Header Field") which are embedded onto the disc. This is header information in front of data sector area, and is the same format as HDD and MO.

A DVD-RAM's disc can be formatted in the following formats:

  • FAT32
  • UDF 1.02
  • UDF 1.50
  • UDF 2.00
  • UDF 2.01
  • UDF 2.50

By formatting a DVD-RAM disc with FAT32 it will act like a removable hard drive and all writing will be done as 'background processes". Meaning you do not have to wait for it to finish, you can start or work with other applications while the DVD-RAM is working without noticing any 'hangs" or CPU slowdowns.

Lets us take a look at the media we are going to use in these tests:


Maxell branded 12x media manufactured by Maxell

Verbatim 5x DVD-RAM 4.7GB 5Pack Jewel Cases

Verbatim 5x media manufactured by Matsushita

As we can see, the Maxell media is rated at 12x and the Panasonic media is rated at 5x.

Now let's see how DVD-RAM media is written and read by the Samsung SH-S182D.

Maxell 12x media written at 12x without verification

Maxell 12x media written at 10x without verification

Maxell 12x media written at 8x without verification

Maxell 12x media written at 6x without verification

Verbatim 5x without verification

Verbatim 5x with verification

For those of you who are not familiar with DVD-RAM, you may probably think that something went wrong during the write process with the verification turned on, since the 5x media was written at 2x. But not to worry, that is pretty normal for DVD-RAM discs, the reason for the 'low" speed is, the drive constantly reads back the data after writing it to verify that it's written correctly. We can also call it a 'bullet proof" writing/verify technique, with no data loss/errors.

DVD-RAM has error correction, but also has error replacement to spare sectors as a "defect management" function. This gives higher reliability than other DVD format.

Another advantage with DVD-RAM is that the discs can be formatted/erased/written at over 100.000 times before it will/can cause/report any errors. Let's try to read back the 2 discs that we wrote:


Maxell DVD-RAM


Verbatim DVD-RAM

As we can see, the Samsung SH-S162S also reads DVD-RAM using a fast P-CAV/CLV reading method, but reads the disc at its rated write speed, meaning our 5x media was read at 5x and our 12x media was read at 12x. The Samsung SH-S182D had no problems in reading our two test discs.

EDITORS NOTE:

The rather shaky read back curve for 12x DVD-RAM media was fixed in firmware version SB03:

 

Before we round off this review, let us run the drive through some advanced tests at next page…

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Hello!
I have this Samsung product and I'm dealing with a serious problem:

One of the features listed is: "The Samsung SH-S182D supports bit-setting, and is capable of writing DVD+R, DVD+RW and DVD+R DL media with DVD-ROM book type."

Well, the one I have in my computer CAN'T do this!!!

I open Nero Burning ROM, go to "Choose recorder", as it is shown in this review, and for my surprise the option "Book type settings" at the bottom of the dialog box DOESN'T EXIST!

Only the optons "Super link enabled" and "DVD high compatibility mode" are there! How is this possible?

If someone here have any ideas about my problem, I'd be very glad! Just e-mail me: danielcl_colorado@yahoo.com.br.

Thanks! :c
:( have same writer does anydody know why DL discS are showing as CDs.....tried 3 different makes of discs no joy
I have the SH-S182F model which I think is basically the same. It is a great drive so far. It can read discs well and does excellent burns. Seems like they teamed up with Toshiba because the retail box says "Toshiba Samsung Storage Technology Corporation", abbreviated "TSST". Made in Korea. (Thank God it's not made in China)

I am just curious why it causes the hard drive LED to light up continuously when watching a DVD movie. My previous Lite-On didn't cause the hard drive LED to light up at all.

The movie plays fine though. Anyone know why this is? Thanks in advance. :)
I have a serious problem with the samsung sh-s182d it cannot read its own burn cds and dvds and it shows many of cds or dvds as a blank disc. Somebody please help me and if possible please send the solution to my mail i.e azmath_85@hotmail.com.
Thanks,this is a very good review on this burner!
I have the SH-S182F model which I think it's the same as this one, does anyone knows if it's possible to bitset to DVD-ROM? If you know how please write me to jcma90@gmail.com :)
I have the SH-S182D model too and it takes about 4 hours 15 mins to encode and burn a normal length movie .. my old burner never took this long .. whats up with that ? :c
Mine is gawdawful SLOW... It didn't use to be so bad. I am not sure what happened. I've got the latest FW, reinstalled all the samsung magic speed and all, it's set to dma mode, I don't know what else to do. It's not too picky about discs and the burns usually come out good but now it's taking like half hour 45 mins to rip a DVD9 and about half an hour to burn one, AFTER encoding. It's f'n ridiculous. Burns CD fine, full disc like 2.5 mins... DVDs fuggetaboudit...
Any ideas???
Mine is starting to act the same way. Burning DVD at at various speed sometime at .84X! :-( - Unbelievable! I did upgrade firmware ver SB05 but no help.
Advises are appreciated.
An
I have the same problem. I bought 3 of this type SH-S182D, from one provider. It reads nice, but always burns DVD`s very slow. It`s stable after upgraded firmware to SB04. But it always takes 1 hour and 8m to burn a dvd. Have tried both +/- different machines, Linux/XP, DMA, 80 conductor cables, etc. So now I don`t know what to do. Maybe drop Samsung and buy other brand? Or maybe its my PC`s?
I fixed the problem with slow DVD burn described in the post above!

"Posted by ragnar (guest) on Saturday 22 March 2008 23:17
I have the same problem. I bought 3 of this type SH-S182D, from one provider. It reads nice, but always burns DVD`s very slow. It`s stable after upgraded firmware to SB04. But it always takes 1 hour and 8m to burn a dvd. Have tried both +/- different machines, Linux/XP, DMA, 80 conductor cables, etc. So now I don`t know what to do. Maybe drop Samsung and buy other brand? Or maybe its my PC`s?"


I didn`t know about the firmware upgrade SB06, I thought the SB04 was the newest. I upgraded firmware from S04 to S06. And that fixed the problem!!! I now burn a DVD 4574510KB (4468GB) in 8min 47sec!!!! Finally!

Here is the link to the firmware upgrade file SB06:

http://org.downloadcenter.samsung.com/downloadfile/ContentsFile.aspx?CDSite=us&CttFileID=1528503&CDCttType=FM&ModelType=N&ModelName=SH-S182D&VPath=FM/200706/20070622093010250_SH-S182D_SB06.zip
Or click here for page:
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/download/supportDownDetail.do?group=computersperipherals&type=opticaldiscdrives&subtype=dvdwriter&model_nm=SH-S182D&language=&cate_type=all&mType=FM&dType=D&vType=R&cttID=1528503&prd_ia_cd=05050500&disp_nm=SH-S182D


Good luck with your Samsung product!


:g
I have the exct same drive in black
just upgraded the firmwae from SB04 to SB06

theve changed the method of upgrading firmware, unfortunately the batch of softwares they used to have for this drive have been removed from their site.
they were pretty usefull, like disk speed adjuster and stuff

Iv just recently encounted defection on my drive, probably due to neglecting the button and slamming the tray shut all the time.
so now it pops the disk out randomly.

abotu ppl getting the they insert as CD, if u are using nero adn is your 1st time, sellect the drive as TSST corp SH-S182D

when selecting to burn, on the bottom right corner sellect the size of ur disk, dvd5 or 9

usualy nero 8 detects this automaticaly
Why doesnt the LED light come on my SH-S182D? It works perfectly otherwise?
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