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Samsung SH-S203B detail information

Posted by Wendy Collins
Posted on 21/09/07 21:15
Number of views 86660
Manufacturer Samsung
Product Samsung SH-S203B
Description 20x DVD burner with SATA interface and the worlds first 16x DL burner.
Awards Editor's Choice Award
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DVD+R/RW Writing performance

 

The specifications of this drive tell us that it should write DVD±R at 20x and DVD+RW/-RW at 8x/6x. In this part, we will measure the writing times for various types of DVD+R/RW and DVD-R/RW discs. We will also focus on write quality and media compatibility.

DVD-Writing performance:


In this test we will measure the time for writing to DVD±R discs. We used Nero Burning Rom to burn an ISO compilation containing 4483Mb of data. We used the Disc-At-Once write method.

DVD+R

DVD-R

Let’s compare with some other drives.

Write DVD data discs

DVD+R

DVD-R

Plextor
PX-760A

5m:40s
(18x speed)

5m:46s
(18x speed)

Samsung
SH-S182D

5m:31s
(18x speed)

5m:21s
(18x speed)

Samsung
SE-S184M

5m:32s
(18x speed)

5m:23s
(18x speed)

Pioneer
DVR-112

5m:19s
(18x speed)

5m:21s
(18x speed)

Samsung
SH-S203B

4m:44s
(20x speed)

4m:46s
(20x speed)

We can see the Samsung SH-S203B has performed very well and is the fastest drive we have tested, but let’s see how good the writing quality is.

Write quality:


You should first notice that this is not a scientific and professional way to test the discs. But according to our testing done in recent months, we would conclude that there is a clear link between the quality reported when scanning the disc and the playability of the disc in different devices. Also notice that different drives report different amounts of errors. K-Probe was designed to work with Lite-On DVD-Writers, so we recommend using a DVD-Writer from Lite-On. In this test we use a Lite-On SHM-165P6S DVD-Writer, as already said; remember that scans done with a Lite-On DVD-ROM or Lite-On combo drive can’t be compared with the results obtained with a Lite-On DVD-Writer. Also remember that different PI/PO ECC sum settings along with different reading speeds in K-Probe will affect the result, we use these settings;  PI (Parity Inner) set to summarize 8 ECC blocks, PIF (Parity Inner Failures) set to summarize 1 ECC block, reading speed: 4X CLV (Constant Linear Velocity). Setting the PI sum to 8 and the PIF sum to 1 will give a result that we may compare to the standards for DVD+R/RW and DVD-R/RW.

But what is a good scan? That is a discussion that we don’t think will end soon, as different drives report different amount of errors, some players are more picky about media than others, and so on. But as a comparison we present you with a scan from two pressed DVD discs:

This scan shows the results from a pressed DVD-Video disc (GoldenEye).

 

This scan shows the result from a pressed DVD-Video disk (The Green Mile). Notice the error jump when shifting to the second layer (the error level actually drops from the end of the first layer to the beginning of the second layer).

If you read below, you will see that both the pressed DVD-discs are well within the standards.

Download the ECMA 267 Standard for DVD-ROM, the ECMA 337 Standard for DVD+R/RW and the ECMA 338 Standard for DVD-R/RW at http://www.ecma-international.org if you want to look at the standards for yourself. Here is some data from the ECMA standards (same for DVD-ROM, DVD-R/RW and DVD+R/RW):

Random errors:

A row of an ECC Block that has at least 1 byte in error constitutes a PI error. In any 8
consecutive ECC Blocks the total number of PI errors before correction shall not exceed 280.

Here we see that a PI error is defined as a row in an ECC block having 1 byte or more containing errors and that the sum of PI errors in 8 ECC blocks after each other should not exceed 280 PI errors.

But what is a row and what is an ECC block? Again we refer to the ECMA standards. We do not copy and paste everything, but if you’re interested, look in the ECMA standards. A row is 182 bytes long where the last 10 bytes contain PI (Parity Inner) information. An ECC block is 208 rows long where the last 16 rows contain the PO (Parity Outer) information. This gives us a maximum possible PI error amount of 208 errors per block and for 8 blocks after each other this sum is of course 8 times higher, giving a maximum possible amount of 1664 PI-8 errors. In practical use, a disc with 1664 PI-8 errors is unreadable.

According to our tests the specified max PI-8 sum of 280 for good discs seems to be a good guideline, as some readers have problems reading discs when the PI-8 errors is over 300 and most players starts to have problems when the PI-8 error level reaches 600 or more.

But what are the PIF errors that K-Probe reports? They are Parity Inner Failures, meaning errors left after PI correction. Only the ECMA 337 standard describes the Parity Inner Failures. So how is a Parity Inner Failure defined? Here is what the ECMA 337 states:

“If a row of an ECC Block as defined in 13.3 contains more than 5 erroneous bytes, the row is said to be “PI-un-correctable”.”

In theory, an ECC block may in the worst-case have 208 PIF since every ECC block is 208 rows long. But the ECMA 337 standard goes further and specifies the max amount of accepted PI Failures (un-correctable errors) allowed on a good disc:

“In any ECC Block the number of PI-un-correctable rows should not exceed 4.”  

This means that when the PIF sum is set to 1, the maximum error value should not exceed 4. The theoretical maximum value for PIF is 208 errors.

But what makes a disc unreadable? A POF (Parity Outer Failure) error will make the disc unreadable, but K-Probe does not display the POF’s.

Notice that there are other aspects such as disc reflectivity, jitter, tracking errors and so on that also will affect the readability of a DVD disc – but for this we do not have measuring equipment available.

Also, another note is that we have scanned the discs at 4X CLV speed, by lowering the speed to 2X(DVD-R/RW)/2.4X(DVD+R/RW) or 1X the amount of reported errors may drop on some discs. We scanned at 4X CLV due to lower speeds taking too much time.

To see if there is a connection between the reported amount of errors and readability of the discs we also include the reading curve from a Optiarc AD-7173A DVD-Writer. The reason why we have changed the reader is that some companies disliked that we used a modified firmware to obtain 16x reading speed. So to please them, we are now using a drive that reads DVD+R/-R media at 16x as default. A small speed reduction near the end is still accepted on good discs, but serious reading problems or reading failures is a bad sign.

Easier explanation on how to read the test results.


Maybe this got too technical, and you are wondering what to look for in KProbe reports?

Use this as a guideline for good discs:

  • PI (Parity Inner): No larger areas on the disc should exceed 280 PI-8 errors, do not worry too much about high single spikes that exceed 280.
  • PIF (Parity Inner Failures): No larger areas on the disc should exceed 4 PIF-1 errors, do not worry too much about high single spikes that exceed 4.

And as always; lower is better

And look at the reading curve; if it looks clean with no dips it should be good, a small slowdown near the end is accepted.

DVD+R media compatibility and write quality:


In these tests we will be using a Lite-On LH-20A1P with firmware KL05 along with K-Probe to measure the disc quality. We will also be using the Optiarc AD-7173A with firmware 1-O3 along with CD-Speed for our read-back tests.

 

Brand:

BenQ – Thanks to Daxon
for sending us this media.

Manufacturer:

Daxon Inc.

Code:

DAXON AZ3 (Made in Taiwan)

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

16x

Write Speed:

16x (CAV)

Write Time:

5m:39s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

1.48

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.01

The result is very good.


Brand:

TDK

Manufacturer:

TDK Corporation

Code:

TDK003 (made in Taiwan)

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

16x

Write Speed:

18x (CAV)

Write Time:

5m:03s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

1.30

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.06

The result is very good and disc was burned at faster than its rated speed.


Brand:

Verbatim – Thanks to Verbatim (UK) for sending us this media.

Manufacturer:

Mitsubishi Chemicals Corporation

Code:

MCC 004 (made in India)

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

16x

Write Speed:

18x (CAV)

Write Time:

5m:02s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

0.53

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.01

An excellent result and the disc were written at faster than its rated speed.


Brand:

Datawrite – Thanks to SVP (UK) for sending us this media

Manufacturer:

CMC Magnetics Corporation

Code:

CMC MAG M01 (made in Taiwan)

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

16x

Write Speed:

18x (CAV)

Write Time:

5m:02s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

1.69

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.02

The writing quality is very good and the disc was written at faster than its rated speed.


Brand:

Plextor – Thanks to Plextor for sending us this media

Manufacturer:

Taiyo Yuden

Code:

YUDEN000T03 (made in Japan)

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

16x

Write Speed:

20x (CAV)

Write Time:

4m:36s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

1.03

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.01

The result is excellent considering this disc was burned faster than its rated speed.


Brand:

Verbatim – Thanks to SVP UK for sending us this media

Manufacturer:

Taiyo Yuden

Code:

YUDEN000T02 (made in Japan)

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

8x

Write Speed:

12x (CAV)

Write Time:

7m:21s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

0.80

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.01

No surprises here, an excellent result from the Verbatim 8x media manufactured by Taiyo Yuden, all the more so as this disc was written faster than its rated speed.


 

Brand:

Pleomax – Thanks to Pleomax (NL) for sending us this media

Manufacturer:

OPTODISC

Code:

OPTODISC R16 (made in Taiwan)

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

16x

Write Speed:

16x (CAV)

Write Time:

5m:38s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

2.06

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.04

The result is good.


Brand:

Sony

Manufacturer:

Sony

Code:

SONY D21 (made in Taiwan)

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

16x

Write Speed:

16x (CAV)

Write Time:

5m:39s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

1.06

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.09

Once again we have another good result.


Brand:

Ricoh – Thanks to Ricoh Europe
for sending us this media.

Manufacturer:

Ricoh Company Limited

Code:

RICOH JPN R03 (made in Japan)

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

1x-16x

Write Speed:

18x (CAV)

Write Time:

5m:01s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

3.98

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.02

The writing quality is very good and the disc was burned faster than its rated speed.


Brand:

DataWrite Titanium  – Thanks to SVP for sending us this media.

Manufacturer:

Prodisc

Code:

Prodisc R03 (made in Taiwan)

Disc Type:

DVD+R

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

8x

Write Speed:

8x (Z-CLV)

Write Time:

8m:10s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

0.67

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.03

The result is very good.

DVD+RW media compatibility and write quality:


We used the same test procedures as in our DVD+R tests.

Below are our obtained results.

Brand:

Verbatim – Thanks to Verbatim for sending us this media.

Manufacturer:

Mitsubishi Chemicals

Code:

MKM A03 (made in Taiwan)

Disc Type:

DVD+RW

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

8x

Write Speed:

8x (Z-CLV)

Write Time:

7m:31s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

0.48

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.00

The result is excellent.


Brand:

Daxon – Thanks to Daxon Taiwan
for sending us this media.

Manufacturer:

Daxon

Code:

DAXONW81 (made in Taiwan)

Disc Type:

DVD+RW

Capacity:

4483MB

Certified Speed:

8x

Write Speed:

8x (Z-CLV)

Write Time:

7m:32s

PI-8 errors Average/Sec:

6.53

PI-1 failures (PIF) Avg/Sec:

0.03

The result is good.

 

Summary:

The Samsung SH-S203B writes DVD+R/RW with excellent/very good quality and is able to burn selected media at higher than its rated speed. The Samsung SH-S203B was also the fastest DVD+R writer we have ever tested in the CD Freaks review labs.

Now let’s look at DVD-R/RW performance and quality on the next page…

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I bought one based on the article. I have a Pioneer DVR 112D, a Pioneer DVR 110D, A Samsung SH S183L and a Samsung SH-S203B. The two Pioneer's read/rip a pressed DL DVD in 14:30 minutes the Samsung's take 22 minutes to read/rip the same DVD!! I'm using the latest free version of DVDFab Decrypter. What am I missing or what program should I be using to get the Samsung's to rip a a reasonable speed?
I'm having some DL burning problems with this drive. At this point, I'm not sure if it is drive, version of Nero or the DL disks.

CD-R's or DVD-R's burn okay.

No matter what I try, I cannot burn a complete DL disks. Nero randomly generates "Write Error"s.

Here's my system, drive and media details:
Windows Vista Business (Build 6000) (pre-SP1)
Nero Version: 8.0.3.0
Recorder: Version: SB03 - HA 1 TA 0 - 8.0.3.0
Recorder: TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S203B, Media type: DVD+R9 Double Layer Disc Manufacturer ID: RITEK, Media Type ID: S04, Product revision number: 66
Disc Application Code: 0, Extended Information Indicators: 3

The disks are branded Memorex 8x DVD+R DL but it appears they were made by RITEK.
Lawhead, it's most likely because of the disc and not the drive. Ritek DL disks are unreliable. You'd better try Verbatim.
i too have a problem burning dl disks with this drive. It burned one successfully now all i get is errors when it initializes.
Should i buy it? :r :g :B
Is there a samsung external equivalent to the SH-S203B ?
@dunk01
SH-S203N, SH-S203P, with P being a replacement for N, no big difference.
Re Samsung SH-S203B:
Anyone know where I can buy the retail version? All I see on the net is the OPEM version.
Thanks for your assistance :)
what's the differens between SH-203B , SH-203S , SH-203P , SH-203D, SH-203N ? :o
Anyone know where I can purchase the RETAIL version of this Samsung SATA DVD/CD burner (SH-S203B)? I'm engaged in a new build and my mobo (DFI LanParty DK P35-T2RS) has lots of capabilities for SATA drives but looks like only one connection for an EIDE drive.
Thanks :)
Just got mine yesterday. It rips big files at 12x and writes 16x blanks at 20 x :p
I've not tried dl dvd's yet.

Joe
This message was edited at: 18-05-2008 16:03
want one just for single layer burning its the fastest ive seen
I just wanna know... is it lightscribe compatible???
I have had a SH-S203B,firmware SB03 since Feb. Worked great ,burning almost any media. Today I tried to burn a 133meg file to a cd-r, no go. Tried it with a DVD-R, no go. If I look in MY COMPUTER it shows the drive as a DVD-RAM drive. As soon as I load a blank DVD or CD, it changes to CD-ROM. I have tried rebooting, uninstalling and reinstalling the drive, let windows detect, same thing. I can still view files on CD's or DVD's, and watch DVD movies, but I can't get it to burn now. I have tried burning just using win xp, and it won't work.
Anyone have any Ideas?
I have had a SH-S203B,firmware SB03 since Feb. Worked great ,burning almost any media. Today I tried to burn a 133meg file to a cd-r, no go. Tried it with a DVD-R, no go. If I look in MY COMPUTER it shows the drive as a DVD-RAM drive. As soon as I load a blank DVD or CD, it changes to CD-ROM. I have tried rebooting, uninstalling and reinstalling the drive, let windows detect, same thing. I can still view files on CD's or DVD's, and watch DVD movies, but I can't get it to burn now. I have tried burning just using win xp, and it won't work.
Anyone have any Ideas?
Sorry for the dbl post. dunno why it did that
This message was edited at: 03-07-2008 01:59
I have the exact same problem... can't burn with CloneDVD to either my LG GSA-H73N or my Samsung SH-S203B... for the exact same reasons. Changes from CD-ROM to DVD-RAM and CloneDVD 2.9.1.9 can't handle it. My older version of Nero 6.6 burns without a hitch. So I rip with one set of software, burn with another. It'a a major pain but at least I can burn something. :g
I have narrowed it down to a problem with built in Imapi support in WinXP, I think. I tried to install an old copy of Nero 5.5, but the install fails. Says I have an older version on the computer. I have searched every folder on the HD, and checked the registry. No Nero found /shrug.
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