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Audio Read Tests
 

On the box of the Yamaha website we can read that its DAE speed is also 44X ("44x high-fidelity audio ripping"). On this page we'll test just that. For the audio read tests we used our usual 'tools', Exact Audio Copy (EAC) and Nero CD Speed .

Features:

First we checked the features the Yamaha CRW-F1 supports using EAC:

EAC - DAE Features As you can see from the screenshot on the left the Yamaha drive supports caching and has an accurate stream. The drive cannot retrieve the C2 error information from the disc. Below some more information on these terms:

  • 'Caching':
    If your drive caches the audio that was just read, it would be a problem to read this data again in order to compare both extractions to find out if they match.

  • 'Accurate Stream':
    This means the drive won't jitter, thus no jitter correction has to be done anymore.

  • 'C2 Error Info':
    Some newer drives are able to return C2 error information beside the actual audio data. In that case EAC doesn't need to read all data twice anymore, which will result in a big speedup.

Digital Audio Extraction - Exact Audio Copy:

For the Digital Audio Extraction (DAE) tests we started Exact Audio Copy (EAC) and simply extracted the separate audio tracks in uncompressed WAV format to our hard disk. Our test disc (Thunderdome XXII - CD1) had 20 tracks and a total playing time of 77 minutes and 45 seconds. We used both the 'Burst' mode and the 'Secure' mode:

  • 'Burst Mode':
    Burst mode is the fastest mode available. The audio sectors are just read without any error-detection and error-correction.

  • 'Secure Mode':
    The extracted audio is checked for correctness and if errors occur, EAC will try to recover them.

Below the screenshots of the speeds the Yamaha CRW-F1 drive reached in both extraction modes:

Yamaha CRW-F1 DAE speed - Burst Mode
Yamaha CRW-F1 DAE speed - Burst Mode

Yamaha CRW-F1 DAE speed - Secure Mode
Yamaha CRW-F1 DAE speed - Secure Mode

The Yamaha CRW-F1 drive again couldn't reach 44X but comes very close in Burst Mode. The top DAE speed was 43.0X and when we compare it to the 40X readers we see it beats the Plextor PX-W4012A but not by much. The Yamaha CRW-F1 drive performs better than the CRW3200E drive as you can see from the table below:

EAC DAE
Speeds
Burst
Mode
 Average 
Burst
Mode
 Maximum 
Secure
Mode
 Average 
Secure
Mode
 Maximum 
40X Max Readers
Lite-On
 LTR-32123S 
29.8X42.0X 9.5X11.9X
Mitsumi
CR-480ATE
29.1X40.1X 10.3X13.5X
PleXCombo
PX-320A
29.7X41.8X 9.2X12.1X
Plextor
PX-W4012A
30.6X42.3X 9.5X12.4X
Yamaha
CRW3200E
29.1X40.4X 7.1X7.8X
44X Max Readers
Yamaha
CRW-F1
30.9X43.0X 7.1X9.7X
48X Max Readers
Lite-On
 LTR-40125S 
35.3X48.0X 11.0X14.2X
TEAC
CD-W540E
29.3X40.8X 10.1X13.0X
VisionTek
Xtasy 48X
35.0X48.6X 7.1X7.8X
The grey area's indicate the highest speed / best time

Digital Audio Extraction - Nero CD Speed:

Now let's check our results we got with Exact Audio Copy using Nero CD Speed. You can see a screenshot of the tests below:

DAE Quality Test

The tests done with Nero CD Speed confirm our previous test and the Yamaha again reaches a top DAE speed of about 43X. The seek times were however quite high and thus not that good. The CRW-F1 does have an accurate stream and gets a quality score of 10 which is the highest score. Finally the CPU usage was low which is good:

Original
Audio Disc
 Average 
Reading
Speed
Start
 Reading 
Speed
End
 Reading 
Speed
Seek
Times
 Random 
Seek
 Times 
1/3
Seek
 Times 
Full
Quality/
 Accurate 
Stream
40X Max Readers
Lite-On
 LXR-24101A 
USB 2.0
31.15X 18.42X 41.07X 91ms 114ms 178ms 10/yes
Lite-On
LTR-32123S
31.91X 18.87X 42.09X 90ms 107ms 179ms 10/yes
PleXCombo
PX-320A
31.68X 18.82X 41.74X 102ms 121ms 217ms 10/yes
Pletor
PX-W4012TU
USB 2.0
32.06X 19.06X 42.22X 115ms 140ms 211ms 10/yes
44X Max Readers
Yamaha
CRW-F1
32.74X 19.50X 42.96X 118ms 141ms 263ms 10/yes
48X Max Readers
Lite-On
LTR-40125S
37.35X 19.98X 49.07X 88ms 102ms 177ms 10/yes
TEAC
CD-W540E
30.98X 18.33X 40.82X 84ms 95ms 136ms 10/yes
VisionTek
Xtasy 48X
37.23X 19.96X 49.11X 84ms 96ms 167ms 10/yes
The grey area's indicate the highest speed / best time

Advanced DAE Quality Test:

Hi-Space To conclude our DAE test we did the 'Advanced DAE Quality Test' with Nero CD Speed . This test is a very hard and intense test for any reader.

We created a new test disc using a Plextor PX-W4012TU recorder. We used some high quality 'Hi-Space' media which are also available from our online shop (for our Dutch and Belgian visitors only). These Hi-Space discs have a 24 carats gold reflective cover and can be written up to 24x. Here are the results from the Advanced DAE Quality Test:

Advanced DAE Quality Test

The average DAE speed of the Yamaha CRW-F1 drive is pretty high but it's only a little faster than the 40X readers and it's thus again a little disappointing. Luckily the drive has no problems reading the CD-Text and SubChannel Data from the disc but it can't read any data from the lead-out of the disc:

Advanced DAE Test

We of course also tested if the Yamaha drive could indeed read CD-Text. We played an audio disc with CD-Text using NeroMediaPlayer and the CRW-F1 could indeed read it without problems as you can see in the screenshot below (Artist and Song Title are displayed):

Yamaha CRW-F1 reading CD-text

Now that we've concluded our data and audio reading part, let's see how well the Yamaha drive can read a (heavily) scratched disc and a low quality disc.

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Only one remark: I told you to use a pic of Anna Kournikova ;)
Great review guys.
Certainly a very nice drive. Did you all also noticed this is the first review to feature c1/c2 error scanning test? Nice work!
I would almost buy this drive but for the inability to do EMF encoding perfectly. I know that can be overlooked by some but it seems to me a defect and for that price it is a defect that I can't abide. I gave it some thought and even considered buying a USB2 Liteon and then this Yamaha but I want my main CDRW to be bit perfect. Maybe I will wait for the USB2 version.:(:4
Hands Up! Everybody.. Hands Up for this review! :P

Anyfinally more than a 2MB buffer on a fast drive.
Great review!!!

How exactly does the TDK/Lite-on 48x24x48 drive compare to this Yamaha drive??? Most importantly, is the TDK/Lite-on drive able to copy all copy protections without the 'amplify week sectors" option of clone-cd??? I would love to se a review of the TDK drive with exactly the same benchmarks and comparisons… I am going to buy the TDK or this Yamaha… Pleas help me, and the rest of us make up our minds!

Thanks,
KGB_22
Hmmm...so...DiscT@2...do the current crop of Liteon burners (40X and 48X write) support any similar technology?...As I would ditch them for the Yamaha if not...
No, the Lite-Ons don't have any technology like this..
posted a link to a TDK 48X review rivaling the Yamaha here yesterday but got deleted ...

but nvm ... here we go again o'.'o

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I would like to give comment on it's special feature "Audio master Quality Recording", i have made test's in comparison with the plextor's feature "vari-rec" and came across the conclusion that the plextor is far better in musical quality than Yamaha's recordings.
I have made even a recording on single speed using the Yamaha, because i could not believe its dissappointment but with no better result.
I naturally first ripped the audio with plextool's 1.15 new DAE extraction, because it's better than EAC's and made recordings on Platinum's 700 MB CD-r's
on 50 piece spindle costing only 35 Euro cents a piece.
The Plextor's recording were very little bit lighter in sound-quality, but just as musical like the originals, but the Yamaha's were very much different in comparison with the original cd's and lacked musicality giving you that kind of specific digital sound.
Used Cd sources were, Badi Assad's "Rhythms" and Chessky's demonstration cd and Mariah Carey's "Butterfly".
So for the enthousiats among audiofreaks consider this comment as serious.
All the other qualities of cd-burning of the Yamaha is perfect according the tests on this site.

Great review site.
My compliments.
Highend_freak.
I read the review about the TDK Cyclone 48x24x48x drive and it seems great. But the review didn't cover the drive's ability to read and make backups of copy-protected CDs. Does anyone know anything more about that or where or how to find out? Also, this drive isn't listed by any vendor in Pricewatch as of today. Does anyone know a source for purchasing this drive? Thanks.
There is a forthcoming review of this drive and some cautions about the Tatoo feature ( wastes recordable space etc) at tomshardware.. it was sent out to subscribers of Hardnews at tom's [url=http://www.tomshardware.com/newsletter/vol2/36/yamaha.html] Link [/url] :4
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