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Data Read Tests
 

In this part of our Yamaha CRW-F1 review we'll start testing the reading of normal/unprotected data discs. Let's see how fast the Yamaha drive can read data and if it can really reach the claimed 44X. For the tests we used Nero CD Speed and repeated the tests several times to make sure the results were accurate.

The data read tests are divided into four sections:

Transfer Rate Test - Original/Pressed Discs:

For the transfer rate tests we used a pressed CD-ROM containing PlexTools v1.05 which was exactly 74 minutes (333.000 sectors) long. Below the produced graph with Nero CD Speed:

Transfer Rate - Original/Pressed Discs

And of course the speeds and seek times of the Yamaha CRW-F1 drive:

Transfer Rate - Original/Pressed Discs

In the left screenshot you see that the Yamaha CRW-F1 couldn't reach the claimed 44X and gets a top reading speed of 41.18X. This is even slower than some 40X readers we've reviewed like the Plextor PX-W4012TU (41.71X)!

The seek times with original/pressed media were also not that good as you can see in the screenshot on the right.

Seek Times - Original/Pressed Discs

In the table below we compare the achieved times with other drives we've previously reviewed. The Yamaha CRW-F1 is listed separately since it's the only 44X reader. As you can see from the table below the Yamaha is slower than some of the 40X readers:

Original
Discs
 Average 
Reading
Speed
Start
 Reading 
Speed
End
 Reading 
Speed
Seek
Times
 Random 
Seek
 Times 
1/3
Seek
 Times 
Full
40X Max Readers
Lite-On
LTR-32123S
31.75X19.02X41.65X 94ms103ms168ms
PleXCombo
 PX-320A 
31.21X18.38X41.21X 108ms120ms216ms
Plextor
 PX-W4012U 
USB 2.0
31.62X18.70X41.71X 118ms139ms208ms
Yamaha
CRW3200E
29.46X17.37X38.89X 94ms107ms199ms
44X Max Readers
Yamaha
CRW-F1
31.22X18.46X41.18X 120ms139ms263ms
48X Max Readers
Lite-On
LTR-40125S
37.44X22.21X49.57X 96ms96ms266ms
TEAC
 CD-W540E 
36.85X22.08X48.43X 88ms102ms229ms
VisionTek
Xtasy 48X
36.54X21.19X48.15X 99ms100ms168ms
The grey area's indicate the highest speed / best time

Transfer Rate Test - CD-Recordable Media:

For the transfer rate tests with CD-Recordable Media we again used the PlexTools v1.05 disc only this time we read from a back-up disc. The disc used was a 'That's Write' CD-R certified up to 16x writing and manufactured by Gigastorage. Here's the ATIP information from CDR Identifier:

  • ATIP: 97m 28s 12f
  • Disc Manufacturer: Gigastorage Corp.
  • Reflective layer: Dye (Long strategy; e.g. Cyanine, Azo etc.)
  • Media type: CD-Recordable
  • Recording Speeds: min. unknown - max. unknown
  • Nominal Capacity: 702.83MB (79m 59s 74f / LBA: 359849)

The back-up disc was of course also 74 minutes (333.000 sectors) long. Below the produced graph with Nero CD Speed:

Transfer Rate - CD-Recordable Media

The speeds and seek times the Yamaha CRW-F1 drive reached with the CD-Recordable media:

Transfer Rate - CD-Recordable Media

In the left screenshot you see that the Yamaha CRW-F1 performed better with the CD-Recordable media than with the original/pressed media but it still fails to reach 44X. The top read speed was 42.57X.

The seek times with CD-Recordable media were also better this time but still not the best we've seen as you can see in the screenshot on the right and in the table below.

Seek Times - CD-Recordable Media

In the table below we compare the achieved times with other drives we've previously reviewed. The Yamaha CRW-F1 performs better than the CRW3200E drive and the other 44X readers but it's very close:

CD-R
Discs
 Average 
Reading
Speed
Start
 Reading 
Speed
End
 Reading 
Speed
Seek
Times
 Random 
Seek
 Times 
1/3
Seek
 Times 
Full
40x Max Readers
Lite-On
LTR-32123S
32.21X19.05X42.07X 92ms105ms243ms
PleXCombo
 PX-320A 
31.43X18.83X41.36X 110ms125ms218ms
Plextor
 PX-W4012U 
USB 2.0
31.81X19.07X41.81X 116ms137ms204ms
Yamaha
CRW3200E
30.50X18.28X40.09X 92ms106ms196ms
44X Max Readers
Yamaha
CRW-F1
32.39X19.41X42.57X 116ms135ms254ms
48x Max Readers
Lite-On
LTR-40125S
37.44X22.21X49.57X 96ms96ms266ms
TEAC
 CD-W540E 
36.85X22.08X48.43X 88ms102ms229ms
VisionTek
Xtasy 48X
36.54X21.19X48.15X 99ms100ms168ms
The grey area's indicate the highest speed / best time

Transfer Rate Test - CD-ReWriteable Media:

To test the transfer rate with CD-RW discs we again used the "PlexTools v1.05" disc only this time we read from a CD-ReWriteable disc. We created a back-up of the disc using a PleXCombo PX-320A . The disc used was a 'Plextor CD-RW' disc. Here's the ATIP information from CDR Identifier:

  • ATIP: 97m 27s 00f
  • Disc Manufacturer: Disc ID not allowed
  • Reflective layer: Phase change
  • Media type: CD-ReWriteable
  • Recording Speeds: min. 4X - max. 8X
  • Nominal Capacity: 651.86MB (74m 12s 00f / LBA: 333750)

The CD-RW disc was of course also 74 minutes (333.000 sectors) long. Below the produced graph with Nero CD Speed:

Transfer Rate - CD-ReWriteable Media

The speeds and seek times the Yamaha CRW-F1 drive reached with the CD-ReWriteable media:

Transfer Rate - CD-ReWriteable Media

In the screenshots you can see that the Yamaha CRW-F1 drive gets very close to 44X this time. The Yamaha drives are known for their high read speeds with CD-ReWriteable media. The top read speed was 43.66X.

The seek times with CD-ReWriteable media were quite good as you can see in the screenshot on the right.

Seek Times - CD-ReWriteable Media

In the table below we compare the achieved results to some of the reviews we've done previously. The Yamaha CRW-F1 now does perform a lot better than the 40X readers but it's still a little short of the claimed 44X reading:

CD-RW
Discs
 Average 
Reading
Speed
Start
 Reading 
Speed
End
 Reading 
Speed
Seek
Times
 Random 
Seek
 Times 
1/3
Seek
 Times 
Full
40x Max Readers
Lite-On
LTR-32123S
25.99X15.31X34.38X 91ms101ms361ms
PleXCombo
 PX-320A 
25.20X14.87X33.27X 105ms124ms215ms
Plextor
 PX-W4012U 
USB 2.0
31.61X18.61X41.74X 117ms141ms210ms
Yamaha
CRW3200E
31.14X18.37X41.11X 157ms108ms206ms
44X Max Readers
Yamaha
CRW-F1
33.06X19.46X43.66X 119ms139ms263ms
48x Max Readers
Lite-On
LTR-40125S
32.32X19.05X42.54X 94ms96ms405ms
TEAC
CD-W540E
37.53X22.12X49.54X 99ms96ms303ms
VisionTek
Xtasy 48X
32.23X18.96X42.57X 91ms101ms170ms
The grey area's indicate the highest speed / best time

Transfer Rate Test - Conclusion:

Overall we had quite a disappointing result since we couldn't reach the claimed 44X with any of the read tests. When reading original/pressed media the Yamaha CRW-F1 drive was even slower than some of the 40X readers we've reviewed. When you look at the results Yamaha previous model, the CRW3200E, reached you can see that this drive was also slower than the claimed 40X. We therefore think that Yamaha uses the 80 minute mark as an indication for the read speed instead of the 72 or 74 minute mark other manufacturers are using. Perhaps it would have been better to release the drive as a 40X reader.

So far for the data reading part. Now let's check the audio reading (DAE) speeds on the next page...

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Only one remark: I told you to use a pic of Anna Kournikova ;)
Great review guys.
Certainly a very nice drive. Did you all also noticed this is the first review to feature c1/c2 error scanning test? Nice work!
I would almost buy this drive but for the inability to do EMF encoding perfectly. I know that can be overlooked by some but it seems to me a defect and for that price it is a defect that I can't abide. I gave it some thought and even considered buying a USB2 Liteon and then this Yamaha but I want my main CDRW to be bit perfect. Maybe I will wait for the USB2 version.:(:4
Hands Up! Everybody.. Hands Up for this review! :P

Anyfinally more than a 2MB buffer on a fast drive.
Great review!!!

How exactly does the TDK/Lite-on 48x24x48 drive compare to this Yamaha drive??? Most importantly, is the TDK/Lite-on drive able to copy all copy protections without the 'amplify week sectors" option of clone-cd??? I would love to se a review of the TDK drive with exactly the same benchmarks and comparisons… I am going to buy the TDK or this Yamaha… Pleas help me, and the rest of us make up our minds!

Thanks,
KGB_22
Hmmm...so...DiscT@2...do the current crop of Liteon burners (40X and 48X write) support any similar technology?...As I would ditch them for the Yamaha if not...
No, the Lite-Ons don't have any technology like this..
posted a link to a TDK 48X review rivaling the Yamaha here yesterday but got deleted ...

but nvm ... here we go again o'.'o

[url]http://www.reviewmakers.com/showdoc.php?review=51[/url]
I would like to give comment on it's special feature "Audio master Quality Recording", i have made test's in comparison with the plextor's feature "vari-rec" and came across the conclusion that the plextor is far better in musical quality than Yamaha's recordings.
I have made even a recording on single speed using the Yamaha, because i could not believe its dissappointment but with no better result.
I naturally first ripped the audio with plextool's 1.15 new DAE extraction, because it's better than EAC's and made recordings on Platinum's 700 MB CD-r's
on 50 piece spindle costing only 35 Euro cents a piece.
The Plextor's recording were very little bit lighter in sound-quality, but just as musical like the originals, but the Yamaha's were very much different in comparison with the original cd's and lacked musicality giving you that kind of specific digital sound.
Used Cd sources were, Badi Assad's "Rhythms" and Chessky's demonstration cd and Mariah Carey's "Butterfly".
So for the enthousiats among audiofreaks consider this comment as serious.
All the other qualities of cd-burning of the Yamaha is perfect according the tests on this site.

Great review site.
My compliments.
Highend_freak.
I read the review about the TDK Cyclone 48x24x48x drive and it seems great. But the review didn't cover the drive's ability to read and make backups of copy-protected CDs. Does anyone know anything more about that or where or how to find out? Also, this drive isn't listed by any vendor in Pricewatch as of today. Does anyone know a source for purchasing this drive? Thanks.
There is a forthcoming review of this drive and some cautions about the Tatoo feature ( wastes recordable space etc) at tomshardware.. it was sent out to subscribers of Hardnews at tom's [url=http://www.tomshardware.com/newsletter/vol2/36/yamaha.html] Link [/url] :4
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