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In this part of the Yamaha CRW-F1 review we'll start testing the reading and writing of copy-protected data discs. Copy-protections are used on almost every game nowadays so it's important a writer can handle the various protections out there. For the tests we used the latest CloneCD version 4.0.1.10 from Elaborate Bytes . As you might know if you've read our CloneCD v4.0 preview , CloneCD now uses Profiles for each type of disc. In this review we created a separate Profile for each protection with the common settings used in the old CloneCD versions. E.g. for SafeDisc we only selected the 'Fast Error Skip' setting.
As an extra 'service' or help you can download the Profiles we have used in this review. Click on the Profile images to download the used Profile. Store these files in your CloneCDProfiles folder on your hard disk. Alternatively you can view and download all used Profiles from our CloneCD forum , by clicking here.
Now let's start by giving you a screenshot of the supported drive capabilities of the Yamaha CRW-F1 drive with CloneCD v4.0.1.10:

As you can see in the picture above, the Yamaha CRW-F1 is fully supported by CloneCD (DAO-RAW96). To determine the copy-protection used on our game discs we scanned every disc with the latest ClonyXXL version 2.0.0.6. ClonyXXL can be obtained from kickme.to/englishclony. In the table below we've summed up all of our results and after the table we will clarify our results and compare the read times with other recorders we've previously reviewed:

LaserLock:
For the LaserLock test we use a game called 'Desperados' protected with LaserLock 2. As a comparison we read from both the original disc and from a back-up (CD-Recordable) disc. We did this because there can be quite a difference in read time as you can also see from the results we got with the Yamaha CRW-F1 drive. While the original disc is read in 46 minutes and 33 seconds, the back-up was read in 4 minutes and 58 seconds. Not a bad result for LaserLock as you can
see from the table below:

SafeDisc:
To test the SafeDisc protection we used a game called 'Beavis and Butthead: BungHole in One'. The SafeDisc protection is quite old but it uses a lot of errors on the first 5% of the disc which can make reading the disc take a really long time. But, just as we saw with the Yamaha CRW3200E drive the Yamaha's work very well with CloneCD's 'Fast Error Skip' and the disc is read at full speed in 2 minutes and 36 seconds. Just a few seconds short of our 'SafeDisc
Reader Champions', the Plextor drives:

SafeDisc 2:
For our next tests we used a game called 'The Sims: House Party' protected with SafeDisc version 2.10.030. As expected the disc was again read at full speed in 2 minutes and 10 seconds. To test the Yamaha CRW-F1's ability to write
this protection we wrote the image with ' Amplify Weak
Sectors ' (AWS) disabled. The created back-up disc was then tested in
the following drives:
- Toshiba DVD-ROM SD-M1502: success
- Plextor PX-W4012A: success
- PleXCombo PX-320A: success
- Lite-On LTR-48125W: success
- Yamaha CRW-F1: success
The SafeDisc 2 protection was no problem at all for the Yamaha CRW-F1 drive. A better result than we got with the Yamaha CRW3200E drive since this drive couldn't create a fully working back-up without using 'AWS'. An interesting result! Let's compare the read time with some of the other drives we've reviewed:

SafeDisc 2.51:
Besides our SafeDisc and SafeDisc 2 tests we need to take a look at the latest SafeDisc 2 version 'called' SafeDisc v2.51. This is a new version of the regular SafeDisc 2 and has caused quite a few problems for a lot of writers (which didn't have problems with the normal SafeDisc 2). For this test we used a game called 'Serious Sam 2: The Second Encounter' protected with SafeDisc v2.51.021:

We read the image with the Yamaha CRW-F1 drive using the same 'SafeDisc
(2) [no AWS]' Profile as for our normal SafeDisc and SafeDisc 2 tests. The
' Hide CDR Media ' option was enabled in the CloneCD tray to test playing
from the CD-RW drives. The results when playing from the following drives:
- Toshiba DVD-ROM SD-M1502: failed
- Plextor PX-W4012A: success
- PleXCombo PX-320A: success
- Lite-On LTR-48125W: failed
- Yamaha CRW-F1: success
As you can see from the list above the created back-up didn't play from all drives. It failed in the picky Toshiba DVD-ROM and it also failed to start from the Lite-on drive. Next we re-wrote the same image file but now with the 'AWS' option enabled using the 'SafeDisc 2(.51)
[AWS]' Profile. The 'Hide CDR Media' option was again enabled in the CloneCD
tray to test playing from the CD-RW drives. The results when playing from the
following drives:
- Toshiba DVD-ROM SD-M1502: success
- Plextor PX-W4012A: success
- PleXCombo PX-320A: success
- Lite-On LTR-48125W: success
- Yamaha CRW-F1: success
With 'AWS' enabled the Yamaha CRW-F1 created a fully working back-up which played from all drives we tested it in. Let's give you a final comparison of the read times we achieved with the Yamaha drive and compare it to other drives we've reviewed:

SecuRom *NEW*:
The next protected data tests we did was with a game called 'Neverwinter
Nights' protected with a newer version of SecuRom. Note that we didn't apply the
official game patch for this title since with this patch no back-up works. We
tried to read the third disc of the game (play disc) and the Yamaha CRW-F1 could
read the disc at full speed. We then tested the created back-up disc in several
drives and the game started every time. When playing from a CD-RW drive you have
to enable CloneCD's 'Hide CDR Media' option.

PlayStation/LibCrypt:
As expected the Yamaha CRW-F1 had no problems reading the PlayStation
disc and can read the SubChannel Data at full speed. The CRW-F1 drive was again
a little faster than the previous Yamaha model, the CRW3200E as you can see from
the table below where we compare the achieved read times to other recorders
we've reviewed for the final time:

Conclusion:
Just as we saw with Yamaha's previous model, the CRW3200E, the CRW-F1 drive showed some excellent performance when reading and writing the various copy-protections. The Yamaha CRW-F1 has been improved a lot and could read all protections even faster than the CRW3200E. When reading the SafeDisc and SecuRom protections the CRW-F1 drive is extremely fast and was the fastest reader more than once.
When writing the various copy-protections the Yamaha CRW-F1 didn't disappoint us one bit. It could create a fully working back-up of the SafeDisc 2 protection, something that CRW3200E drive couldn't do. When dealing with the SafeDisc v2.51 protection the drive could create a partially working back-up which worked in most drives we tested it in. When we enabled CloneCD's 'Amplify Weak Sectors' option the back-up worked in all drive we tested it in. It's too bad the drive still needed 'AWS' to make a perfect back-up since else the Yamaha CRW-F1 could be considered the best drive for data protections...
Next up in our Yamaha CRW-F1 review, the reading of protected audio discs...






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Anyfinally more than a 2MB buffer on a fast drive.


How exactly does the TDK/Lite-on 48x24x48 drive compare to this Yamaha drive??? Most importantly, is the TDK/Lite-on drive able to copy all copy protections without the 'amplify week sectors" option of clone-cd??? I would love to se a review of the TDK drive with exactly the same benchmarks and comparisons… I am going to buy the TDK or this Yamaha… Pleas help me, and the rest of us make up our minds!
Thanks,
KGB_22






but nvm ... here we go again o'.'o
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I have made even a recording on single speed using the Yamaha, because i could not believe its dissappointment but with no better result.
I naturally first ripped the audio with plextool's 1.15 new DAE extraction, because it's better than EAC's and made recordings on Platinum's 700 MB CD-r's
on 50 piece spindle costing only 35 Euro cents a piece.
The Plextor's recording were very little bit lighter in sound-quality, but just as musical like the originals, but the Yamaha's were very much different in comparison with the original cd's and lacked musicality giving you that kind of specific digital sound.
Used Cd sources were, Badi Assad's "Rhythms" and Chessky's demonstration cd and Mariah Carey's "Butterfly".
So for the enthousiats among audiofreaks consider this comment as serious.
All the other qualities of cd-burning of the Yamaha is perfect according the tests on this site.
Great review site.
My compliments.
Highend_freak.





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